OT: Home defense shotgun

[notoriousD_O_G]

Buying a $200 gun to protect your family is about like recruiting 2 star offensive linemen to protect your 5 star QB. Benelli M3 or M4.

To each their own. Just seems like a lot of money for something you hopefully never shoot. Especially with a pump action shotgun.

 

[DancingRabbit]

Yeah, my 870 pump is loaded with 4 shot turkey load.

I figured self defense shots in my house would be 5-20 feet and 4 shot wouldn't penetrate walls.

 

[Digging dog]

Buy a grenade.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Without reading what everyone else has said, Remington 870. Next question?

 

[Dawgbite]

To each their own. Just seems like a lot of money for something you hopefully never shoot. Especially with a pump action shotgun.

Thats kinda what insurance is, a lot of money spent on something that you hope to never use. The best shotguns are not made in the USA, the best shotguns are made in Italy. Technology left the Americans behind years ago. I have owned two Mossbergs, a 500 that was not guaranteed to go bang when you pointed it at a bird and pulled the trigger and a 835 that would occasionally go bang just by pumping the action without my finger on the trigger. My life will likely never depend on one.

 

[ShrubDog]

Mossberg is not like it used to be. The 88 has parts made in Mexico. I believe the Remington 870 is all made in the USA. May want to fact check it.

 

[thekimmer]

If its purpose is soley home defense, the main thing is reliability..

To each their own. Just seems like a lot of money for something you hopefully never shoot. Especially with a pump action shotgun.

You want something that 1) is easy to operate. 2) is relatively simple to maintain and 3) will operate properly and reliably when you need it. You aren't going to be hunting or shooting skeet with it and your intended target is going to be just a few feet away so shot pattern and accuracy are not that critical. It doesn't make sense to me to spend $2K+ on a rarely used firearm that has capabilities and features I will never really use.

I say rarely because anyone who owns a firearm only for home defense should NEVER just let it sit until its 'needed'. It is vital to maintain minimal proficiency on any firearm so you remain familiar with how it feels when you shoot it and its operational nuances. Plus, firearms. like most mechanical devices, need to be operated occasionally to verify and maintain function. Otherwise you'll end up like old Asa the bank guard on 'The Andy Griffith Show".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU4BcGdwPWg

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

If it's really just for home defense, you just need the shotgun that makes the loudest cocking noise. I'm serious.

Unless...your occupation is one where people could target you and legitimately try to kill u in your home, you will never shoot it, even if you have an intruder.

this is true a lot of the time. Just nowadays many of the folks breaking into homes now are high on meth. There is a stat out there somewhere that shows 85 or so percent of people that would break in on a homeowner is guided by drug use. Racking a pump shotgun may have no effect.

And if if you get a weapon, don't shoot it once in a blue moon and think you know it. Learn to be proficient with it. You lose a considerable amount of motor function in an adrenaline rush that would come with a fight or flight reaction. If you fumble with it, an assailant may turn your own gun on you after taking it from you.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Hard to go wrong with an 870. Probably can find one in a pawn shop cheap.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

I don't think he's saying 17 the judge because it sucks. I thinks he's bragging that he has a revolver that shoots rounds that are too expensive to target shoot and usually purchased for the same reasons guys buy sports cars or jacked up trucks. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to own a .460. If you want a powerful handgun a .45acp is not bullet than you'll ever need

 

[msstatelp1]

Without reading what everyone else has said, Remington 870. Next question?

Supposedly people are having ejection problems with the newer ones. Pre-Freedom Group 870s are still the gold standard for reliability.

 

[dorndawg]

Eh, call me a bleeding heart if you want, I'd really really really rather someone (even a criminal) tuck tail and haul ***, rather than have it on my conscience from now on I shot somebody I absolutely didn't have to. I'm not saying everyone ought to feel this way, but I do.

And I say this also as someone with a Mossberg 500 12ga loaded w/ 7 rounds of 00 buckshot.

 

[Xenomorph]

I hear ya man... but by the time you realize you absolutely, positively have to shoot them it might be too late. Nah... once you break into my house with me and my kids in it you just passed the threshold for pull weight on the trigger.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Lots of the freedom group weapons have gone to ****. You had the trigger issues with the 700s, Marlin has gone to **** and h&r, is, well it's h&r.

eta: how could I forget the abortion that is the r51

 

[BELdog]

The 700s had trigger issues pre-Freedom Group, but there is no question, every company that has been bought out by Freedom Group has suffered post-Freedom Group. Bushmaster used to be a solid AR-15. Now, I honestly would not own one if it was given to me.

 

[MaxwellSmart]

Rem 870, 18.5" barrel and anything from #4 shot through #4 buckshot. You may also find one with a 20"-22" smoothbore slug barrel that takes remchokes. Just swap in the improved cylinder choke and you are ready to go.

 

[Michigan Dawg.sixpack]

I've got a Remington 870 Tactical. It looks cool, is well-made and reliable, and if anyone ever invades my home I'll give them a very warm welcome with it.

Go Dogs and Hail State.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

They had they post freedom group as well. The recall was from 2006-2014, I think the freedom group purchased them somewhere in between. Maybe there's been other issues but I'm talking about the x mark pro triggers. My first rifle was a 700 .280 and it's still my favorite I own. I was really interested in the SPS tactical and VTR last time I purchased a rifle but I'm just not comfortable buying anything from them while they're being controlled by the freedom group

 

[SignalToNoise]

+1

 

[cowbell88]

So, I take it nobody here has heard of the Kel Tec KLG? Definitely not in $200 range, but for home security it's a gem.

https://youtu.be/Ya1qlWq1Zkc

I have held a couple of em, but never fired one.

 

[ByersFarm]

I wanted a Judge or Public Defender to carry as a snake gun when I'm in rice fields. Could have used it yesterday several times.

What? There can't be any rice fields in desoto county. Just keep that #2 pony sharp when you're pulling spills, and you'll be safe. Of course it's illegal to kill any snake on this side of the river.

 

[ByersFarm]

I really like my M4, but I understand that not everyone wants to drop that much into an HD gun. Pawnshop 870 is the next best thing. Find a shop that does a little smithing on the side and they'll like cut the barrel down for you on the cheap. I put one together for a buddy recently. I duracoated and old ragged out 870, put a tritium bead on the rib, hogue stocks, and an extended magazine on it. I think he's got less than $300 in the whole thing.

 

[BELdog]

I would never trust my life to anything made by Kel-Tec.

 

[ShrubDog]

I prefer the street sweeping striker.

 

[deanbar]

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OK, for starters, an AR15 is NOT the weapon of choice for “home defense”. Too much firepower in a confined space, very likely to get serious over-penetration and accidentally either damage something valuable or kill a family member.
I’d be looking for something like the Mossberg Mariner with pistol grip (Shotgun Phoenix Tech)

but that’s just me.
If you MUST use an AR15, you want to keep it in a safe.
If you don’t use it for anything else, like ever, and want to have it on hand in case of an unexpected home invasion (or zombie outbreak, or shock troopers dropping from black helicopters), then you could do what a good friend of mine did:
He cut out a section of drywall, and rigged mounts to the studs for a shotgun, a couple of hand guns, and an (since you ask) an AR15 - along with ammo. He then used a heavy grade of paper to cover the opening, drywalled it, painted, and hung a painting over it.
He knows that in case of extreme emergency, he tosses the painting and punches the paper, and he’s good to go.
Do note: this guy is an ER doc, a credentialed law enforcement officer, and a member of the regional SWAT team. He knows what he’s doing. You - given that you’re asking - don’t.
Act accordingly............(stolen from quora----gmta!!























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[deanbar]

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[deanbar]

http://www.shtfblog.com/selecting-the-best-survival-shtf-tactical-shotgun/

cool--- i would keep going but folks are probably getting fed up...

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Thank you guys so much. I'm going to go with the $200ish one at Academy. 12 gauge baby. Cock it and rock it!***

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Allright then

#4 Buckshot, ...inside the house, and no more.

Generally recommended.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Are you talking about the KSG? I don't like the way they feel, it's like holding a heavy toy. Best semiauto tactical shotgun I've ever shot is the versamax. I know I trashed Remington earlier but th versamax tactical was incredible and I've shot practically any shotgun you can name.

 

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

Take a look at the DP-12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoFikuoIwLw

 

[Dawg1979]

I don't think he's saying 17 the judge because it sucks. I thinks he's bragging that he has a revolver that shoots rounds that are too expensive to target shoot and usually purchased for the same reasons guys buy sports cars or jacked up trucks. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to own a .460. If you want a powerful handgun a .45acp is not bullet than you'll ever need

thats exactly what i'm saying. i didn't say i purchased the damn thing. its way too much gun, and your right, the bullets are about $5 each. it was given to me. its the Rick Vaughn of guns. lots of juice, can't hit ****, but comes through in the clutch when you need it.