OT: Bobby Hurley

MADHAT1

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Yes

He really is the only experienced guy running a power 5 program we could get and its buzzworthy in the state

ASU tough job and doomed with move to Big 12
His NYC Metro area connections might help RU more then that helps ASU.
His record at ASU isn't outstanding, though a tough place to win, I would look for a up and coming mid major type HC instead of Bobby
Josh Schertz of St Louis is someone I think might be worth thinking about.
 

King of S

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His NYC Metro area connections might help RU more then that helps ASU.
His record at ASU isn't outstanding, though a tough place to win, I would look for a up and coming mid major type HC instead of Bobby
Josh Schertz of St Louis is someone I think might be worth thinking about.
Agree- Josh Schertz would be head and shoulders above Bobby H.
 

Knight Shift

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Yes

He really is the only experienced guy running a power 5 program we could get and its buzzworthy in the state

ASU tough job and doomed with move to Big 12

As a point guard or Head Coach?
Can you make some more excuses for his 9 year mediocre record in the PAC-12? He has been in Big 12 for 1.5 years. He had been treading the waters of mediocrity in the PAC 12 since 2020-21.

And cry me a river for the Big 12.

His conference record is
83–106 (.439). Pike's in the B1G is
73–111 (.397).

Hard pass. Take his predecessor Herb Sendek over him, who has been doing well at Santa Clara. But would take neither over Pikiell next year with the buyout
 

Bob Chaewsky_rivals

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Knight Shift

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The Hurley’s still have plenty of juice in MBB in the NE.

Bobby Hurley is well known locally and considered a winner by most CBB fans.

I think he’s an immediate upgrade over Pike and can generate strong recruiting results for us.
I call BS on considered a winner. Looks like a loser-guy took over a program that was not in terrible shape, and his record resembles Pikiell's which included 2 years of a major rebuild. It's quite pathetic how some of our "fans" make allowances for other coaches.

2015–16Arizona State15–175–1311th
2016–17Arizona State15–187–118th
2017–18Arizona State20–128–10T–8thNCAA Division I First Four
2018–19Arizona State23–1112–62ndNCAA Division I Round of 64
2019–20Arizona State20–1111–7T–3rd
2020–21Arizona State11–147–109th
2021–22Arizona State14–1710–108th
2022–23Arizona State23–1311–9T–5thNCAA Division I Round of 64
2023–24Arizona State14–188–12T–9th
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Bob Chaewsky_rivals

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I call BS on considered a winner. Looks like a loser-guy took over a program that was not in terrible shape, and his record resembles Pikiell's which included 2 years of a major rebuild. It's quite pathetic how some of our "fans" make allowances for other coaches.

2015–16Arizona State15–175–1311th
2016–17Arizona State15–187–118th
2017–18Arizona State20–128–10T–8thNCAA Division I First Four
2018–19Arizona State23–1112–62ndNCAA Division I Round of 64
2019–20Arizona State20–1111–7T–3rd
2020–21Arizona State11–147–109th
2021–22Arizona State14–1710–108th
2022–23Arizona State23–1311–9T–5thNCAA Division I Round of 64
2023–24Arizona State14–188–12T–9th
Arizona State Sun Devils (Big 12 Conference) (2024–present)​
2024–25Arizona State13–204–1615thCBC First round
2025–26Arizona State9–60–2
What are you f&%king talking about. Four of his seasons at ASU were 20-12, 23-11, 20-11,and 23-13. I don't think Pike had any of those seasons. You can say a lot about the Hurleys, but they are certainly not losers. ASU was also 82-80 the five years before Hurley took over - not exactly great. That "loser-guy" with his two national championship, NBA career, and Duke education wouldn't hyphenate "loser-guy"' either.
 
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NewJerseyHawk

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So in 2026, RU fans should be excited about Hurley, because he would bring a "buzz" to the program???

Would he have Bobby Hurley Sr sitting at some games?? Sure, that would generate some newspapers being sold....Oh wait, do people still buy newspapers??

Would hiring Hurley bring us more players, for free, or better Top 50 players, without having to have 10 to 15M in NIL?? If yes, sign me up today, maybe Hurley can donate his entire salary for the recruiting process of players and coach for free I guess......isnt that what Danny Hurley does up at UConn...he gets no money from the wealthy UCONN fans and that buzz, allows kids to be paid directly by Hurley to play there.....right, got it!! LOL
 

MADHAT1

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What are you f&%king talking about. Four of his seasons at ASU were 20-12, 23-11, 20-11,and 23-13. I don't think Pike had any of those seasons. You can say a lot about the Hurleys, but they are certainly not losers. ASU was also 82-80 the five years before Hurley took over - not exactly great. That "loser-guy" with his two national championship, NBA career, and Duke education wouldn't hyphenate "loser-guy"' either.
Rutgers was 29–68 the 3 seasons before Pike was hired under Eddie Jordan and 41-51 under Mike Rice (3 years)
and we shouldn't forget the Freddie Hill Jr years ( 4)47–77

Bobby took over a far better program that was 159–137 under Herb Sendek in the 9 years he was there.

I'd say Rutgers should aim for a better HC then either Steve or Bobby have proved to be at RU and ASU.
 

Bob Chaewsky_rivals

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Rutgers was 29–68 the 3 seasons before Pike was hired under Eddie Jordan and 41-51 under Mike Rice (3 years)
and we shouldn't forget the Freddie Hill Jr years ( 4)47–77

Bobby took over a far better program that was 159–137 under Herb Sendek in the 9 years he was there.

I'd say Rutgers should aim for a better HC then either Steve or Bobby have proved to be at RU and ASU.
I think Bobby Hurley would do a nice job at Rutgers. I think he could recruit NJ and I think we could get him.
 

ScarletJocko

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The Hurley name couldn't even keep the doors open at St. Anthony but Bobby's supposed to infuse this program with $$ and turn the program around based off the family name alone?? And I say that with respect for everything the family accomplished in this state. I just don't think they have nearly the juice in 2026 NJ that would warrant Bobby's hire (Who I also think is a fairly mediocre HC on par with the one we've got)
 

Knightmoves

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I think Bobby Hurley would do a nice job at Rutgers. I think he could recruit NJ and I think we could get him.

I believe that Danny and his Dad will finally support RU BB in a meaningful way if Bobby is the HC. Will that be enough to elevate RU recruiting?

Do long time RU fans consider Pike a better bet than Bobby Hurley at this point? Not me, and I’m not a Pike basher by any standards.

I like what Pike has done in the past but the future doesn’t look promising for him. RU needs to make a bold move here and Bobby H is a very reasonable choice. RU should benefit with local recruiting with Bobby as HC imo.
 
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MADHAT1

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Wont Danny and his Dad finally support RU BB in a meaningful way if Bobby is the HC?

Do long time RU fans consider Pike a better bet than Bobby Hurley at this point? Not me, for one, and I’m not a Pike basher by any standards.

I like what Pike has done in the past but the future doesn’t look promising for him. RU needs to make a bold move here and Bobby H is a very reasonable choice. RU should benefit with local recruiting with Bobby as HC imo.
What happens if Bobby fails, Bob Sr won't knock his son and probably hold a grudge feeling the RU administration didn't do enough to help Bobby succeed.
Based on what I see at ASU under him, Rutgers might be a little better with him at the helm than with Pike, but I wouldn't count on it. He could be worse.

As for Danny, don't think he'll be pushing Rutgers to the recruits he's going after and telling recrits that there's not a spot for them on his team , "try Rutgers" would give players the impression he feels Rutgers a second rate team and recommending they go there only implies that they are second rate talent.
Don't think those players would want to go to Bobby after his brother just about said they aren't good enough for him
St Anthony closed over 8 years ago so Hurley Sr might not have influence he once had, but his Hurley Family Foundation might keep him in the recruiting game, just not as much as when he was a HS HC

Danny's influence locally won't help Rutgers , he uses it for his program and his dad still has the respect, but probably not the type of influence in directing talent towards the colleges of his choice

My choice would be the St Louis U HC to replace Pike , but George Mason's Tony Skinn might also be a good one He was an assistant at Seton Hall, Ohio State and Maryland before being hired at George Mason 3 years ago.
 
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The Hurley name couldn't even keep the doors open at St. Anthony but Bobby's supposed to infuse this program with $$ and turn the program around based off the family name alone?? And I say that with respect for everything the family accomplished in this state. I just don't think they have nearly the juice in 2026 NJ that would warrant Bobby's hire (Who I also think is a fairly mediocre HC on par with the one we've got)
That is unfair. St. Anthony was the worst academic school in New Jersey. I remember one of their asst. coaches telling me that they didn't have an individual SAT score over 400 one year.
 

MADHAT1

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That is unfair. St. Anthony was the worst academic school in New Jersey. I remember one of their asst. coaches telling me that they didn't have an individual SAT score over 400 one year.
google search disagrees:
Based on available records, reports, and its 2017 closure, the claim that St. Anthony High School in Jersey City, NJ, was the "worst academic school in New Jersey" is
not supported by data regarding its graduation and college placement rates.
While the school faced severe financial struggles, declining enrollment, and, in its final years, some negative community reviews regarding its physical, aging facility, its academic outcomes for students were generally strong.
Key Facts Regarding St. Anthony High School's Academic Standing:
  • High College Acceptance Rate: Despite closing in 2017, the school maintained a 100% college acceptance rate for seniors over its final two decades.
  • College Enrollment: The school was known for helping inner-city students get into college, with many going on to Division I schools.
  • Mission: The school was known as a "saving grace" for many urban students, offering a safe environment, though it operated with limited resources compared to wealthier suburban Catholic schools.
  • Reason for Closing: The school closed in 2017 not because of poor academic performance, but due to insurmountable financial debt, dwindling enrollment, and the inability to maintain the building.
Context for the Claim:
  • Negative Reviews: Some online reviews from parents and students in the years leading up to the closure reported issues with outdated facilities, high tuition, and, in some cases, concerns about academic rigor.
  • Focus on Athletics: Due to the fame of basketball coach Bob Hurley Sr., the school was often characterized primarily as a basketball powerhouse rather than an academic institution, though it was both.
While some parents and students reported dissatisfaction in the final years, the,100% college acceptance rate indicates it was not the worst academic school in the state.

But that doesn't mean Rutgers would be better with Bobby.
I'd take both the Saint Louie U and George Mason's HCs over Bobby Hurley Jr. and feel his local recruiting connections might no be as good as thought .
 
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NewHondo77

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The Hurley name couldn't even keep the doors open at St. Anthony but Bobby's supposed to infuse this program with $$ and turn the program around based off the family name alone?? And I say that with respect for everything the family accomplished in this state. I just don't think they have nearly the juice in 2026 NJ that would warrant Bobby's hire (Who I also think is a fairly mediocre HC on par with the one we've got)
That had nothing to do with basketball. Catholic schools are closing all of the place and parishes are be consolidated
 

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I have nothing against Bobby Hurley, but I think there are much better coaches available who would be happy to come here if we are paying Big Ten wages. I think there are a lot of high quality guys who think they can win at Rutgers.
 
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seansherm

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The Hurley name couldn't even keep the doors open at St. Anthony but Bobby's supposed to infuse this program with $$ and turn the program around based off the family name alone?? And I say that with respect for everything the family accomplished in this state. I just don't think they have nearly the juice in 2026 NJ that would warrant Bobby's hire (Who I also think is a fairly mediocre HC on par with the one we've got)
I'd venture to guess Rutgers has more fans/alumni than St. Anthony's did to hit up for $
 

Knight Shift

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tru2ru1

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I have nothing against Bobby Hurley, but I think there are much better coaches available who would be happy to come here if we are paying Big Ten wages. I think there are a lot of high quality guys who think they can win at Rutgers.
Paying Big Ten wages only makes it attractive if the school also has Big Ten money in the form of NIL & revenue sharing to recruit with, otherwise you can't succeed
 

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google search disagrees:
Based on available records, reports, and its 2017 closure, the claim that St. Anthony High School in Jersey City, NJ, was the "worst academic school in New Jersey" is
not supported by data regarding its graduation and college placement rates.
While the school faced severe financial struggles, declining enrollment, and, in its final years, some negative community reviews regarding its physical, aging facility, its academic outcomes for students were generally strong.
Key Facts Regarding St. Anthony High School's Academic Standing:
  • High College Acceptance Rate: Despite closing in 2017, the school maintained a 100% college acceptance rate for seniors over its final two decades.
  • College Enrollment: The school was known for helping inner-city students get into college, with many going on to Division I schools.
  • Mission: The school was known as a "saving grace" for many urban students, offering a safe environment, though it operated with limited resources compared to wealthier suburban Catholic schools.
  • Reason for Closing: The school closed in 2017 not because of poor academic performance, but due to insurmountable financial debt, dwindling enrollment, and the inability to maintain the building.
Context for the Claim:
  • Negative Reviews: Some online reviews from parents and students in the years leading up to the closure reported issues with outdated facilities, high tuition, and, in some cases, concerns about academic rigor.
  • Focus on Athletics: Due to the fame of basketball coach Bob Hurley Sr., the school was often characterized primarily as a basketball powerhouse rather than an academic institution, though it was both.
While some parents and students reported dissatisfaction in the final years, the,100% college acceptance rate indicates it was not the worst academic school in the state.

But that doesn't mean Rutgers would be better with Bobby.
I'd take both the Saint Louie U and George Mason's HCs over Bobby Hurley Jr. and feel his local recruiting connections might no be as good as thought .
The 100% college acceptance rate is only for those kids who apply to college, and it includes two year colleges. Two year schools in NJ pretty much accept everyone, so the 100% acceptance rate is probably not nearly as good as it sounds. If 20% apply to and get accepted to four year schools, and another 40% get accepted at two year schools - and if that 60% is all that applied to college then you have a 100% college acceptance rate. Put another way - if you have only 30 seniors applying to college and they all get accepted someplace then you also have an acceptance rate of 100%. And further, what level of four colleges are their kids applying to? At the school I worked for approximately 70%+ applied to, and got accepted to college, 2 and 4 year. Half of them went to Sussex CC (guaranteed acceptance), and half of that number didn't even attend. Guidance departments try and make things sound as good as they can.
 
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