Oklahoma fraternity shut down
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In this age of technology how can ANYONE be that stupid
nothing anyone says or does these days is private as long as their is a cell phone within distance. Not only is what they said wrong and idiotic but the fact that a college "student" doesn't realize it's wrong is even worse......when will people learn?
nothing anyone says or does these days is private as long as their is a cell phone within distance. Not only is what they said wrong and idiotic but the fact that a college "student" doesn't realize it's wrong is even worse......when will people learn?
This type of behavior from Oklahoma or Texas doesn't surprise me in the least. I hope I never have to visit either state.
Re: mneilmont not pleased
I shouldn't be surprised at the continued attitudes over race but as a country, we are getting better. And then this kind of stuff occurs.
I shouldn't be surprised at the continued attitudes over race but as a country, we are getting better. And then this kind of stuff occurs.
Re: mneilmont not pleased
Our institutions are better for the most part. But there is still a lot of this kind of thing that happens. You'd hope that younger people like these frat boys would see things differently than our parents and grandparents did. Apparently many don't. Obama's presidency has revived some of this hate. I hope these guys not only have their frat disbanded, I hope they are expelled from school.
Our institutions are better for the most part. But there is still a lot of this kind of thing that happens. You'd hope that younger people like these frat boys would see things differently than our parents and grandparents did. Apparently many don't. Obama's presidency has revived some of this hate. I hope these guys not only have their frat disbanded, I hope they are expelled from school.
Re: There were a couple fraternities at Auburn like this....
I was never in a non-professional fraternity. But a guy on my floor at Summit Hall was a member of KA. Those guys worshiped Robert E. Lee and all things old confederacy. He used to wear his rebel flag shirt all the time. He was a Virginia, old money southerner who thought his **** didn't stink. I'm sure you've ran across a few of those in Alabama.
I was never in a non-professional fraternity. But a guy on my floor at Summit Hall was a member of KA. Those guys worshiped Robert E. Lee and all things old confederacy. He used to wear his rebel flag shirt all the time. He was a Virginia, old money southerner who thought his **** didn't stink. I'm sure you've ran across a few of those in Alabama.
Re: I believe that was the Delts, not the KA's
Almost 100% on that memory.
Being very involved in frat life in the early to mid 80's, I saw racism but nothing to this level. But there was indeed discrimination prevalent during Rush with most of WVU frats. The fight we (SigEps) had when we were attempted to bring the first Asian-American into the brotherhood was absolutely sickening. The chapter did not have its first black member until years after I left. But the years I was there, no black ever attempted to join.
Almost 100% on that memory.
Being very involved in frat life in the early to mid 80's, I saw racism but nothing to this level. But there was indeed discrimination prevalent during Rush with most of WVU frats. The fight we (SigEps) had when we were attempted to bring the first Asian-American into the brotherhood was absolutely sickening. The chapter did not have its first black member until years after I left. But the years I was there, no black ever attempted to join.
A message from the OU President
TO: All Students, Faculty, and Staff
To those who have misused their free speech in such a reprehensible way, I have a message for you. You are disgraceful. You have violated all that we stand for. You should not have the privilege of calling yourselves "Sooners." Real Sooners are not racist. Real Sooners are not bigots. Real Sooners believe in equal opportunity. Real Sooners treat all people with respect. Real Sooners love each other and take care of each other like family members.
Effective immediately, all ties and affiliations between this University and the local SAE chapter are hereby severed. I direct that the house be closed and that members will remove their personal belongings from the house by midnight tomorrow. Those needing to make special arrangements for positions shall contact the Dean of Students.
All of us will redouble our efforts to create the strongest sense of family and community. We vow that we will be an example to the entire country of how to deal with this issue. There must be zero tolerance for racism everywhere in our nation.
David L. Boren
President
University of Oklahoma
TO: All Students, Faculty, and Staff
To those who have misused their free speech in such a reprehensible way, I have a message for you. You are disgraceful. You have violated all that we stand for. You should not have the privilege of calling yourselves "Sooners." Real Sooners are not racist. Real Sooners are not bigots. Real Sooners believe in equal opportunity. Real Sooners treat all people with respect. Real Sooners love each other and take care of each other like family members.
Effective immediately, all ties and affiliations between this University and the local SAE chapter are hereby severed. I direct that the house be closed and that members will remove their personal belongings from the house by midnight tomorrow. Those needing to make special arrangements for positions shall contact the Dean of Students.
All of us will redouble our efforts to create the strongest sense of family and community. We vow that we will be an example to the entire country of how to deal with this issue. There must be zero tolerance for racism everywhere in our nation.
David L. Boren
President
University of Oklahoma
Re: There were a couple fraternities at Auburn like this....
There is a triple prick in Tenn that thinks his **** doesn't stink. Unfortunately he has a following on this board that is in agreement with him, but he is lying son of a ***** who is definitely blinded by his own arrogant image.
Actually, I was in Summit room 303 the year it opened. My two black suite-mates were an inspiration to me and they have become quiet successful in their own right. They did not need social programs to carry them. They made it on their own. Proud to have known the gentlemen.
Too bad your black cousins relied on welfare and govt assistance.
There is a triple prick in Tenn that thinks his **** doesn't stink. Unfortunately he has a following on this board that is in agreement with him, but he is lying son of a ***** who is definitely blinded by his own arrogant image.
Actually, I was in Summit room 303 the year it opened. My two black suite-mates were an inspiration to me and they have become quiet successful in their own right. They did not need social programs to carry them. They made it on their own. Proud to have known the gentlemen.
Too bad your black cousins relied on welfare and govt assistance.
Re: A message from the OU President
Nowhere in there did I see the word expulsion.
How serious are you if you don't expel the students?
Nowhere in there did I see the word expulsion.
How serious are you if you don't expel the students?
Re: I remember the KA at WVU....
I am younger than you and only two "white" frats that had a black member were the Beta's and Sigma Nu. They both had one each.
There were several black frats on campus and they had a very strong membership but they did not participate much in the Greek life with the other frats. It wasn't discussed among any of us but rather it was just the way it was. Now being older and hopefully wiser, I'm shocked at how this was not even an issue at that point in history.
I am younger than you and only two "white" frats that had a black member were the Beta's and Sigma Nu. They both had one each.
There were several black frats on campus and they had a very strong membership but they did not participate much in the Greek life with the other frats. It wasn't discussed among any of us but rather it was just the way it was. Now being older and hopefully wiser, I'm shocked at how this was not even an issue at that point in history.
Triple Prick
After reading the piece, I have no reservations about calling you a son of a *****. You are a revolving son of a *****. Every way they turn you, you are a son of a *****.
Typical mob ****. No nerve to say it individually, but when surrounded by other ******** with like minds, the arrogance and bravery comes out.
By highlighting this kind of behavior would suggest you appreciate it and are a closet racist. You ride the train too often. Got to make an issue of the behavior to keep it stirred up. Look at yourself in a mirror. Ask why you have to go out of your way to be such an *******.
After reading the piece, I have no reservations about calling you a son of a *****. You are a revolving son of a *****. Every way they turn you, you are a son of a *****.
Typical mob ****. No nerve to say it individually, but when surrounded by other ******** with like minds, the arrogance and bravery comes out.
By highlighting this kind of behavior would suggest you appreciate it and are a closet racist. You ride the train too often. Got to make an issue of the behavior to keep it stirred up. Look at yourself in a mirror. Ask why you have to go out of your way to be such an *******.
Not surprised college kids would do something stupid. I'm surprised to see students at a major university be so openly racist. That's beyond stupid to even think it, much less say it, much less lead a chorus with it.
Re: I remember the KA at WVU....
Blacks were definitely in the minority. I think they had a couple houses where they had their weekend social events, but I am unaware that they had an organized house. Very difficult to see why a black would wish to be there. Just now crossed my mind that I don't recall having many blacks in class. Remember a football player in history and one in an Ed lab class. Definitely none in business classes.
Blacks were definitely in the minority. I think they had a couple houses where they had their weekend social events, but I am unaware that they had an organized house. Very difficult to see why a black would wish to be there. Just now crossed my mind that I don't recall having many blacks in class. Remember a football player in history and one in an Ed lab class. Definitely none in business classes.
Why do you make such a remark? Just want to be part of the anti-crowd? As well as I remember, Ok elected a very popular black man to Senate(maybe House). He was popular wherever he went. The state treated him like a son of the state. Why would you make such suggested infllamatory remark?
I personally have no connection to either state, and reasonable sure you don't either. Why would you paint so broadly with your brush?
I personally have no connection to either state, and reasonable sure you don't either. Why would you paint so broadly with your brush?
I recognize bigotry still exists in this society.....
.....and regrettably, it isn't going away anytime soon. But what puzzles me most about this particular incident is exactly why someone on that bus thought it a good idea to post the video on YouTube; something which has become fairly renown for hanging suspecting and unsuspecting people out to dry.
I guess I appreciate there's some kind of wacky "prestige" (among those who post on YouTube) to be the first to do so regarding pretty much any particular "topic". But why even the biggest bigot.....or dumbass.....in the universe thought doing this was some kind of good/funny idea makes me shake my head for the future of our society at least a little but.
Truth be known, I find myself wondering if the "videographer" had some kind of problem with the kid (with the bow tie) standing in the aisle acting as head cheerleader, and thought this to be just a downright fabulous way to hang him out to dry (though I assume every kid on the bus was pretty much ****-faced). With that said, why is it I wouldn't be shocked to learn the "cheerleader".....whose career as a "student" at OU is presumably already cooked.....might be out looking for that "videographer" today with a loaded pistol in his pocket ??\
Ironically, this would appear to have been busload of Sig Eps (and their dates) on their way as a group to a formal; something my own Son at the University of Cincinnati was scheduled to attend this weekend as well (which he ended up being forced to decline due to a Saturday conflict with a singing competition).
.....and regrettably, it isn't going away anytime soon. But what puzzles me most about this particular incident is exactly why someone on that bus thought it a good idea to post the video on YouTube; something which has become fairly renown for hanging suspecting and unsuspecting people out to dry.
I guess I appreciate there's some kind of wacky "prestige" (among those who post on YouTube) to be the first to do so regarding pretty much any particular "topic". But why even the biggest bigot.....or dumbass.....in the universe thought doing this was some kind of good/funny idea makes me shake my head for the future of our society at least a little but.
Truth be known, I find myself wondering if the "videographer" had some kind of problem with the kid (with the bow tie) standing in the aisle acting as head cheerleader, and thought this to be just a downright fabulous way to hang him out to dry (though I assume every kid on the bus was pretty much ****-faced). With that said, why is it I wouldn't be shocked to learn the "cheerleader".....whose career as a "student" at OU is presumably already cooked.....might be out looking for that "videographer" today with a loaded pistol in his pocket ??\
Ironically, this would appear to have been busload of Sig Eps (and their dates) on their way as a group to a formal; something my own Son at the University of Cincinnati was scheduled to attend this weekend as well (which he ended up being forced to decline due to a Saturday conflict with a singing competition).
It was probably....
a date of one of the brothers who posted this becausshe thought the conduct was offensive and she wanted it exposed. Mission accomplished.
a date of one of the brothers who posted this becausshe thought the conduct was offensive and she wanted it exposed. Mission accomplished.