Official gameday thread- Duke vs Stanford
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If we can't defend the 3 then we're in trouble because we can't exchange 3's for 2's. Maliq should play a bunch this game due to his quickness of blitzing and recovering on his guy. Vesaar on UNC tried to do the same to Okorie but he was way too slow
We either let their freshman guard get his and make someone else beat us, or we try to completely take him out. Stanford has been a surprise in the league so far, but this is still a team Duke should beat. I say Duke by 8-10.
I didn’t see anything to be concerned about from Stanford’s front court.
With that said defend the 3 and run our offense inside out.
Pat sets career high.
With that said defend the 3 and run our offense inside out.
Pat sets career high.
Duke can’t keep chunking up 3s against Stanford. They gotta play inside with Cam and Pat. Duke should win easily.
Duke - 87
Stanford - 76
Duke - 87
Stanford - 76
We need 3-4 guys to play well on offense, and for defense to be even better than they were against Cal.
We’ve all been critical of this team at one time or another but can we all agree the defense is coming back around and this team is also getting better?
The offense isn’t pretty, but the D they played was suffocating.
Nice to see Harris finally get some run. Hope he sees the guys playing serious defense and knows that's the only way he's going to get playing time
What a great night for my blood pressure outside of the five beers 
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Defense plays like this we will be golden
.Defense plays like this we will be golden
Duke plays defense like this and will be very tough to beat. Sarr can completely shut down anyone.
My blood pressure was higher watching Cal almost blowing their leadWhat a great night for my blood pressure outside of the five beers
Defense plays like this we will be golden
Zero turnovers from Pat and Cam.
What a beautiful day
It sure didn’t seem like they scored 80. Big Pat had a solid offensive game, but Foster laid an egg.
What a lockdown job by the boys on D though. Hat tip to Sarr.
What a lockdown job by the boys on D though. Hat tip to Sarr.
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Yeah it didn't feel like we scored that much. Wonder what's going on with Foster. He still can't be sick can he? Had career game then three duds. At least he's still defending really well
Back in the top ten in both categories on KenPom, that's nice to see. I hate the Bills lost, though. Hoping for Seahawks, Texans, and Bears wins the rest of the weekend. I'd love to see the Texans win it all. Can't pull for the 49ers, Broncos, or Pats.
Come on Bleed! It's all about Da Bears!!! It's been refreshing to see The Bears Good Again
! We Finally have A Competent QB for the 1st time in the franchise's history lol.Last Night was the Most Complete Game Duke has played thus far this season. Hope Duke Learns to Keep their foot on the throttle for the remainder of the season.
Still NEED 2 Clean Up the Poor Free Throw Shooting.
Still NEED 2 Clean Up the Poor Free Throw Shooting.
Honestly, Foster is who he is at this point in his junior year. I agree he’s been playing good defense but the Louisville game was super out of the ordinary for him but it would be nice to have him do that again a time or two this year.
This is the biggest reason my opinion stays that Cayden has always been this teams X factor to reach its full potential. He can go out and get you 12-14 with logging major minutes…
It would be great if Cayden could get 12-14 points a game. I just don’t see that as a normal thing out of him, even if he logged major minutes, but would love to be wrong.
If he were to do that, Duke becomes a favorite.
If he were to do that, Duke becomes a favorite.
Hey man, I am definitely pulling for your Bears! I'm hoping my Raiders will be there with Mendoza one day soon, hahaCome on Bleed! It's all about Da Bears!!! It's been refreshing to see The Bears Good Again
To be honest, he’s just not very good. Bellow average defender, well below average perimeter shooter, average passer, average finisher. If his bro wasn’t who he is, Cayden wouldn’t be a Duke caliber player. Jmo.
Cayden isn’t one of the all time Duke elite freshman, he’s a bit behind on defense and his shot is very ugly. But I’m happy he’s here and he brings a lot to the table. He’s a big guard who is a great passer once in the lane, and he seems to score key baskets in big games when we need them.
Cayden was originally a four star recruit . I remember in the preseason thread I mentioned that Cayden was more of a combo guard than a pure pg. it’s going to take him time to adjust but so far his floater and ability to score around the basket has been needed. I think with another year he could be top notch but against quicker guards he’s going to struggle on defense .
Cayden isn't a bad player at all, but it has to be tough as hell being in Cam's shadow. His brother isn't just better, he's the bigger brother too. What I think is realistic is to hope that between him and Foster, they can score 10-15 a game. That seems low, but it seems more of an anomaly when both score 10 or more.
Our overall success will depend a lot on one of the two being productive every game.
Our overall success will depend a lot on one of the two being productive every game.
Nice to coast to a win for a change. Agreed need to tighten up on those missed FT's. I still don't feel like we are an elite team due to our lack of solid point guard play and lack of a reliable second/third scorer. We are still gonna win a lot of games this year, but I do think that will be our ultimate downfall. Could happen in the round of 32, could happen in the final four. I am very happy to have a third year Foster, but it does seem that the UL game was an anomaly. Since that game he is averaging 3 points a game on poor shooting. Still, here we sit atop the ACC. I'll take it!
I am not concerned about Duke not having a Consistent #3 scorer. Last season's team didn't have that either, it was done by committee. Last season Duke could count on Flagg and Knueppel to score consistently, then the rest of the guys would balance the rest of the scoring. Duke will be fine with Cameron and Evans leading the charge on the offensive end with Sarr/Ngongba/Khamenia/Foster/Cayden/Brown/Harris (hope he gets back in the rotation) balancing the rest of the scoring.
As far as the concern on not having a Pure PG, imo Duke will be fine here too. Coach Scheyer and Nolan Smith alternated bringing the ball up during the 2009-2010 National Championship Season. Neither Scheyer nor Smith were Pure PGs. Scheyer's Experience can pay dividends for both Foster and Cayden (combo guards).
Arizona, UConn, Duke, Houston, Michigan, and Gonzaga are the best teams in the country at this point in the season. All of them still have plenty of time to Evolve and Improve. This is A Very Strong Season for Men's College Basketball.
As far as the concern on not having a Pure PG, imo Duke will be fine here too. Coach Scheyer and Nolan Smith alternated bringing the ball up during the 2009-2010 National Championship Season. Neither Scheyer nor Smith were Pure PGs. Scheyer's Experience can pay dividends for both Foster and Cayden (combo guards).
Arizona, UConn, Duke, Houston, Michigan, and Gonzaga are the best teams in the country at this point in the season. All of them still have plenty of time to Evolve and Improve. This is A Very Strong Season for Men's College Basketball.
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I’m not worried about a third scorer either. Third leading scorer can be different every game.
There is a gigantic difference in Boozer/Foster and Scheyer/Smith however.
But we’ll be fine with those two sharing PG duties. If we get get a combined 13ish/6ish/6 ish with 3 or less TO…..
Just my opinion…
There is a gigantic difference in Boozer/Foster and Scheyer/Smith however.
But we’ll be fine with those two sharing PG duties. If we get get a combined 13ish/6ish/6 ish with 3 or less TO…..
Just my opinion…
Maybe we can get a different 3rd scorer each game to compliment Boozer and Evans, but I’m not sure that’s a model to get where we’d like. If it did, it wouldn’t be like the 5 title teams.
Ngongba is the only other guy averaging double figures. To win it all, I think we need a little more out of him, and at least one of our other guys that are in the rotation to increase their scoring.
Ngongba is the only other guy averaging double figures. To win it all, I think we need a little more out of him, and at least one of our other guys that are in the rotation to increase their scoring.
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I think two scorers is all you need to be consistent enough to win. If Cam and Slim can average scoring about 40 plus points a game, surely we can score about 35 or more from 6 or 7 players. There’s only one ball and you want your best shooting it. I do think Pat is beginning to put it together and he is that third scorer some of you are looking for.
I can agree that if we had a reliable 2nd scorer, the 3rd scorer could be by committee. But I don't think we have that #2. As much as I like Evans, he's streaky and regularly has low percentage shooting nights. He's a volume shooter who I wish would be more selective with his shots. He has proven he can hit bit shots at the end of games which is absolutely huge. My point is, we don't have a reliable second scorer.
I'm still stuck on the PG shortcomings. Can we win a national championship the way we are playing right now? Yes, I think that is possible. But I think we would be in a much better position if we had a PG who could consistently be strong with the ball, get to the rim on occasion, and make FT's at the end of the game at a solid clip.
I will say it's nice to sit behind my keyboard and knit pick at team that is 17-1 and undefeated in conference play. Let's go Duke!
I'm still stuck on the PG shortcomings. Can we win a national championship the way we are playing right now? Yes, I think that is possible. But I think we would be in a much better position if we had a PG who could consistently be strong with the ball, get to the rim on occasion, and make FT's at the end of the game at a solid clip.
I will say it's nice to sit behind my keyboard and knit pick at team that is 17-1 and undefeated in conference play. Let's go Duke!
Duke needs a third option . If Duke is relying on Boozer and Evans to continue to be the scoring threats then that makes the offense to easy to defend when it comes to better defensive teams. Double Boozer run Evans off the three point line and make him a constant driver. I do think at Louisville Foster did something to his calf . He was pretty much calling to come out the game . Now could that be a mental block given his injury history to his lower body ? Not sure but need one of Cayden, Foster, Sarr or Khamenia to keep the defense honest . Sarr can shoot but his driving to the basket gives call for concern. All in all I think Duke will be fine.