Note to Fred Hoiberg

[big red23]

I will say this with the following statement, "I know we possibly are not done in the portal yet but..."

You need to recruit players outside of Euro Big Men and Shooting Guards

You need the following ASAP...

1. A couple athletic Small Forward/Power Forward players... getting that Italian kid from Evansville will be a start
2. A true Point Guard... Blue and Lawrence are NOT GOOD BALL HANDLERS
3. To a lesser extent, but still necessary a Rim protector... None of your Euro boys are going to be good at that

I get it, you are a seasoned coach. I am sitting in my office chair typing this. However, what you are building is going to get it's *** handed to em in the Big 10.

 

[Suhrreal]

This "muh true point guard" stuff needs to stop. It's not 1970 anymore.

 

[big red23]

This "muh true point guard" stuff needs to stop. It's not 1970 anymore.

Yeah!!! RIGHT!

Oh whoops... wait a little birdie just told me Florida would have be worse if they "DIDN'T" have a true PG floor general in Walter Clayton Jr.

My mistake

A true point guard is like have a good QB in football, so down playing it is ridiculous

 

[Suhrreal]

Yeah!!! RIGHT!

Oh whoops... wait a little birdie just told me Florida would have be worse if they "DIDN'T" have a true PG floor general in Walter Clayton Jr.

My mistake

A true point guard is like have a good QB in football, so down playing it is ridiculous

This season Walter Clayton had 4.2 assists per game and 2.4 turnovers per game. Brice Williams had better offensive numbers than Clayton. Perhaps you would like to describe how Walter Clayton is a "true point guard," as opposed to a shooting guard that just played his first full season as a "point guard" this year.

 

[big red23]

This season Walter Clayton had 4.2 assists per game and 2.4 turnovers per game. Brice Williams had better offensive numbers than Clayton. Perhaps you would like to describe how Walter Clayton is a "true point guard," as opposed to a shooting guard that just played his first full season as a "point guard" this year.

It is not about the assists it is about the leadership and controlling the tempo and pace of the game

 

[Colorado1]

I just read the breakdown by class for next years’ roster including the new transfers in, not impressed as I think we look weaker than the last few teams

 

[Harry Caray]

Fred said today that he doesn't think we need a traditional point guard, he wants everyone to be able to bring the ball up and initiate the offense. The offense will go through Mast when he's in there, like it did in 2023-24.

The biggest issue is defensively. This roster is not going to be able to match up well with most Big Ten teams. Not much athleticism.

 

[big red23]

Fred said today that he doesn't think we need a traditional point guard, he wants everyone to be able to bring the ball up and initiate the offense. The offense will go through Mast when he's in there, like it did in 2023-24.

The biggest issue is defensively. This roster is not going to be able to match up well with most Big Ten teams. Not much athleticism.

We need to land at a minimum one of these guys, but I'd prefer both Pozzato and Ausar

 

[king_kong_]

I just hope whoever is on the team next year has fun

 

[IM4NUAlways_]

I will say this with the following statement, "I know we possibly are not done in the portal yet but..."

You need to recruit players outside of Euro Big Men and Shooting Guards

You need the following ASAP...

1. A couple athletic Small Forward/Power Forward players... getting that Italian kid from Evansville will be a start
2. A true Point Guard... Blue and Lawrence are NOT GOOD BALL HANDLERS
3. To a lesser extent, but still necessary a Rim protector... None of your Euro boys are going to be good at that

I get it, you are a seasoned coach. I am sitting in my office chair typing this. However, what you are building is going to get it's *** handed to em in the Big 10.

How about Dear Fred, Make the NCAA's next year and win a dam game or move on. PS the current roster is not going to get that done. Maybe just walk away and retire now.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

I just read the breakdown by class for next years’ roster including the new transfers in, not impressed as I think we look weaker than the last few teams

 

[IM4NUAlways_]

I just hope whoever is on the team next year has fun

Because fans won't most likely. He is not going to flip the roster near enough to come close to this year.

 

[schuele]

Fred said today that he doesn't think we need a traditional point guard, he wants everyone to be able to bring the ball up and initiate the offense.

Well that helps explain why his loudest fanboys have suddenly lost any interest in landing a point guard.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Without a splash and a mid-splash in the portal this team will be bad.

We need to replace williams and gary. Those two with mast on the floor would have been very good this year.

Next year looks hideous.

 

[big red23]

Clayton is very clearly a 2 guard playing point holy **** you don’t watch the games

Nope... never seen him play. Didn't see him turn down the layup and dripple out for the 3 against Texas Tech. He played point and was the leader on the court. Was he Chris Paul no, but he controlled the pace of the games. I have watched more college basketball than I care to admit. So don't ever come at me with this argument.

Could he play the 2... without a doubt! Could he play the point... well didn't he just win a NC doing that?

I have watched Lawrence play and he is not even close to a leader on the court. He ia not a guy that can take over games and control the pace. That is what I am getting at, you can disagree if you want. However, you are incorrect with this argument big shooter.

 

[HUSKERBILL_rivals382595]

I just hope whoever is on the team next year has fun

I’m not sure missing the tournament again will be much fun. My expectations for the squad have really regressed. I was a big Hoiberg fan before but I have some serious concerns now.

 

[big red23]

I’m not sure missing the tournament again will be much fun. My expectations for the squad have really regressed. I was a big Hoiberg fan before but I have some serious concerns now.

@king_kong_ was being sarcastic

 

[king_kong_]

My expectations for the squad have really regressed.

This is probably for the best

I mean, look at football

If we go 9-3, beat nobody and get blown out by the only semi-good teams on our schedule everyone here will be over the moon and booking their hotel rooms for the ‘26 CFP

10 years ago we fired coaches for doing that

There are NU fans who actually believe winning a 3rd rate bball tournament of losers is better than an NCAA bid

Ignorance truly is bliss, so bury your head in the sand and start convincing yourself now, Bill

 

[IM4NUAlways_]

I’m not sure missing the tournament again will be much fun. My expectations for the squad have really regressed. I was a big Hoiberg fan before but I have some serious concerns now.

Me too. For the last 4 years.

 

[TarheelHuskerFan_rivals]

A lot of premature freak out for next year‘s basketball team when it’s still early on and I’m sure we’re going to get plenty more portal additions

 

[PvilleHuskerTim]

Are we still in the mix for Xaivian Lee (PG from Princeton), Ian Jackson (SG from North Carolina), and RJ Luis (SF from St. John's)? I see all 3 are still uncommitted.

 

[Harry Caray]

Are we still in the mix for Xaivian Lee (PG from Princeton), Ian Jackson (SG from North Carolina), and RJ Luis (SF from St. John's)? I see all 3 are still uncommitted.

I don't think we are in the mix for any of them. They all have major programs recruiting them. Sounds like Lee to Florida and Jackson to St. John's.

 

[huskerfan1414]

This is probably for the best

I mean, look at football

If we go 9-3, beat nobody and get blown out by the only semi-good teams on our schedule everyone here will be over the moon and booking their hotel rooms for the ‘26 CFP

10 years ago we fired coaches for doing that

There are NU fans who actually believe winning a 3rd rate bball tournament of losers is better than an NCAA bid

Ignorance truly is bliss, so bury your head in the sand and start convincing yourself now, Bill

For me, personally,

1) I absolutely believe winning the crown tournament with a 21 win season is better than sneaking into the NCAA tournament and losing in the first round as a 10 seed. Guilty as charged. I enjoyed it. Not ashamed.

2) I will readily admit I have different expectations for the basketball team (lower) than the football program. I expect more out of the football program. I also currently think FH is getting more out of his guys than MR. Hope that changes this year.

3) I have been critical of Rhule and the football program, however a 9-3 season would certainly be major improvement from what we have seen. I would not be satisfied, however, but it would be a lie to not see improvement there. Would you recognize that as improvement, while not being satisfied? It almost seems like you are worried we might be good enough to go 9-3 so you are preemptively making fun of fans who would think it's progress.

For me, please define "blown out" so we no beforehand what that means. A 10 point loss? Worse?

 

[king_kong_]

For me, personally,

1) I absolutely believe winning the crown tournament with a 21 win season is better than sneaking into the NCAA tournament and losing in the first round as a 10 seed. Guilty as charged. I enjoyed it. Not ashamed.

2) I will readily admit I have different expectations for the basketball team (lower) than the football program. I expect more out of the football program. I also currently think FH is getting more out of his guys than MR. Hope that changes this year.

3) I have been critical of Rhule and the football program, however a 9-3 season would certainly be major improvement from what we have seen. I would not be satisfied, however, but it would be a lie to not see improvement there. Would you recognize that as improvement, while not being satisfied? It almost seems like you are worried we might be good enough to go 9-3 so you are preemptively making fun of fans who would think it's progress.

For me, please define "blown out" so we no beforehand what that means. A 10 point loss? Worse?

A bo pelini esque season this year would represent improvement

It would also be just that - a bo pelini esque season.

Those seasons used to get guys fired, and now will be the source of tremendous amounts of chest pounding

A stark departure, entirely driven by cratered expectations

 

[schuele]

Are we still in the mix for Xaivian Lee (PG from Princeton), Ian Jackson (SG from North Carolina), and RJ Luis (SF from St. John's)? I see all 3 are still uncommitted.

Luis is in the portal but probably won't play another year of college ball. Even with his tournament meltdown, his draft stock should be pretty high and I think he will go that route.

 

[TarheelHuskerFan_rivals]

A bo pelini esque season this year would represent improvement

It would also be just that - a bo pelini esque season.

Those seasons used to get guys fired, and now will be the source of tremendous amounts of chest pounding

A stark departure, entirely driven by cratered expectations

The problem with your logic is it's all or nothing. You have to allow incremental progress and it's ok to celebrate that. We all will continue to raise our expectations as time progresses.

 

[Big bo fan]

Cell phones didn’t exist the last time Nebraska football mattered it probably never will again

Well Nebraska mattered at one time. That’s one time more your then your Hawkeyes .

 

[V-Doub]

Cell phones didn’t exist the last time Nebraska football mattered it probably never will again

Could be worse I suppose. You could go back to the time of telegraphs and the pony express and you still wouldn’t find a decade that iowa mattered.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

Are we still in the mix for Xaivian Lee (PG from Princeton), Ian Jackson (SG from North Carolina), and RJ Luis (SF from St. John's)? I see all 3 are still uncommitted.

X Lee you have no shot. He's going to a big boy program.

 

[Walleye 1]

Well Nebraska mattered at one time. That’s one time more your then your Hawkeyes .

Nebraska had been mediocre to bad for 2 decades and still matter more than the Hawkeyes. Listening to national sports media and fans from other conferences prove that.

 

[king_kong_]

The problem with your logic is it's all or nothing. You have to allow incremental progress and it's ok to celebrate that. We all will continue to raise our expectations as time progresses.

Nope. I am allowing for it.

Your last sentence highlights my point - we have come to expect losing so much so that a fireable offense is now celebrated

 

[838Husker]

Nope. I am allowing for it.

Your last sentence highlights my point - we have come to expect losing so much so that a fireable offense is now celebrated

You're criminally misrepresenting Husker fans of the Bo Pelini era. Bo Pelini was fired because he repeatedly hit the same wall in big games, along with him being a complete douchebag benefited by Husker Nation (he's had an embarrassing career after us). We were thrilled when Bo got to 9 or 10 wins at first, because, and get this, we had a Callahan era that, wait for it... lowered expectations. Bo then never did anything else, showed undeniable disdain and underperformance in recruiting, and treated fans like crap.

We didn't fire him for the season we hope Matt Rhule has next year. We fired him for having the same season, every year, (in a crap B12 North) and showing the same coaching mistakes. So yes, we'd be thrilled with 9-3 next year. And if Matt started dogging fans, failing at recruiting, stubbornly staying in 2-high, and could never win a big game, etc, we'd probably fire him.

Or maybe you'd prefer to hear...I still have expectations, as the best husker fan on the board, that we win at least 1 natty every year. I have the highest of highest expectations. Frankly, I'm concerned you're romanticizing Bo or even Tom. Tom should've been dropped after losing in '83. I'm still on the fence about Bob. That's how high my expectations are.

Edit: I need a shower, can't believe we still have to talk about 'lowered expectations' on a message board in 2025. But I can't help myself.

 

[king_kong_]

You're criminally misrepresenting Husker fans of the Bo Pelini era. Bo Pelini was fired because he repeatedly hit the same wall in big games, along with him being a complete douchebag benefited by Husker Nation (he's had an embarrassing career after us). We were thrilled when Bo got to 9 or 10 wins at first, because, and get this, we had a Callahan era that, wait for it... lowered expectations. Bo then never did anything else, showed undeniable disdain and underperformance in recruiting, and treated fans like crap.

We didn't fire him for the season we hope Matt Rhule has next year. We fired him for having the same season, every year, (in a crap B12 North) and showing the same coaching mistakes. So yes, we'd be thrilled with 9-3 next year. And if Matt started dogging fans, failing at recruiting, stubbornly staying in 2-high, and could never win a big game, etc, we'd probably fire him.

Or maybe you'd prefer to hear...I still have expectations, as the best husker fan on the board, that we win at least 1 natty every year. I have the highest of highest expectations. Frankly, I'm concerned you're romanticizing Bo or even Tom. Tom should've been dropped after losing in '83. I'm still on the fence about Bob. That's how high my expectations are.

Edit: I need a shower, can't believe we still have to talk about 'lowered expectations' on a message board in 2025. But I can't help myself.

I agree with parts of this post and appreciate you taking the time to make it

 

[Baxter48_rivals204143]

You're criminally misrepresenting Husker fans of the Bo Pelini era. Bo Pelini was fired because he repeatedly hit the same wall in big games, along with him being a complete douchebag benefited by Husker Nation (he's had an embarrassing career after us). We were thrilled when Bo got to 9 or 10 wins at first, because, and get this, we had a Callahan era that, wait for it... lowered expectations. Bo then never did anything else, showed undeniable disdain and underperformance in recruiting, and treated fans like crap.

We didn't fire him for the season we hope Matt Rhule has next year. We fired him for having the same season, every year, (in a crap B12 North) and showing the same coaching mistakes. So yes, we'd be thrilled with 9-3 next year. And if Matt started dogging fans, failing at recruiting, stubbornly staying in 2-high, and could never win a big game, etc, we'd probably fire him.

Or maybe you'd prefer to hear...I still have expectations, as the best husker fan on the board, that we win at least 1 natty every year. I have the highest of highest expectations. Frankly, I'm concerned you're romanticizing Bo or even Tom. Tom should've been dropped after losing in '83. I'm still on the fence about Bob. That's how high my expectations are.

Edit: I need a shower, can't believe we still have to talk about 'lowered expectations' on a message board in 2025. But I can't help myself.

Bo was fired for more reasons that getting boat raced in big games

 

[regoratsginrom]

Bo was fired for more reasons that getting boat raced in big games

He and his brother were miserable human beings. Period. End.

 

[838Husker]

Bo was fired for more reasons that getting boat raced in big games

Huh?

As I said already, paraphrased here, Bo was fired for getting boat raced in big games AND for being a douchebag who dogged fans. As I said…

So we agree?

 

[dinglefritz]

Nope. I am allowing for it.

Your last sentence highlights my point - we have come to expect losing so much so that a fireable offense is now celebrated

Pelini wasn’t fired because of 9 wins and you know it.

 

[dinglefritz]

He and his brother were miserable human beings. Period. End.

Carl was definitely a scumbag. I think Bo had good intentions. He just couldn’t control his emotions. He wasn’t ready to be the head coach at NU. He was trying to run NFL schemes without much NFL talent at the end.

 

[inWV]

You're criminally misrepresenting Husker fans of the Bo Pelini era. Bo Pelini was fired because he repeatedly hit the same wall in big games, along with him being a complete douchebag benefited by Husker Nation (he's had an embarrassing career after us). We were thrilled when Bo got to 9 or 10 wins at first, because, and get this, we had a Callahan era that, wait for it... lowered expectations. Bo then never did anything else, showed undeniable disdain and underperformance in recruiting, and treated fans like crap.

We didn't fire him for the season we hope Matt Rhule has next year. We fired him for having the same season, every year, (in a crap B12 North) and showing the same coaching mistakes. So yes, we'd be thrilled with 9-3 next year. And if Matt started dogging fans, failing at recruiting, stubbornly staying in 2-high, and could never win a big game, etc, we'd probably fire him.

Or maybe you'd prefer to hear...I still have expectations, as the best husker fan on the board, that we win at least 1 natty every year. I have the highest of highest expectations. Frankly, I'm concerned you're romanticizing Bo or even Tom. Tom should've been dropped after losing in '83. I'm still on the fence about Bob. That's how high my expectations are.

Edit: I need a shower, can't believe we still have to talk about 'lowered expectations' on a message board in 2025. But I can't help myself.

We fired Palini because Harvey Perlman couldn’t stand him and told the AD to fire him. Pelini was an ******* but he also won nine or 10 games every season. Talent levels did slip under Bo, but he did recruit football players. Talent levels fell off a cliff during the tenure of his successor and didn’t improve much during Frost’s tenure, although all of those teams had sufficient talent to make a bowl game. They just weren’t good enough at being football players and didn’t receive solid coaching.

 

[HuskerO58]

Nope. I am allowing for it.

Your last sentence highlights my point - we have come to expect losing so much so that a fireable offense is now celebrated

Did fans think a 9-3 record was a fireable offense? Specifically in regards to Pelini?