Nice job today CVS, again
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We shot 24% for the game as NW played a suffocating man to man defense. We have no real effective offensive flow. We pass the ball around the perimeter and throw up a prayer with the shot clock expiring. We had several shot clock violations. Turnovers killed us. NW was huge and passed the ballot with quick movement like Uconn women. I don't care what transfers we have eligible next year. Will be tough next year too even with Scaife back.
Go right ahead...no one will miss you!!!
You must love losing by big scores.You must like not being able to recruit.$700k can be better used.
A lot of RU fans are just very frustrated. And for me and many others, that frustration is the belief that Hobbs (Ath Dir) probably will not terminate CVS at the end of the season. And CVS's ego will not allow her to do the right thing for the future of RU women's BB and resign. I know it is a hard thing to admit your time is over, especially when every TV announcer and color commentator hails you as almost a mystical figure, who can do no wrong.
These TV personnel and unfortunately (IMO) Hobbs, view the historical CVS and are blind to the real present day one.
As was said in a previous thread by another objective RU fan, if Hobbs gives CVS a new 4 year contact, it will set our program back for years.
This line I don't agree with. The opinion part of it, where you would argue they are wrong and I honestly have no idea, is whether or not Vivian can do better - or any good at all - next year.
One complication is that Viv's over-arching scheme of how to coach basketball has not, so far as I know, changed over the years (neither does most coach's; you tweak the details). The thing is, this scheme is basically built on defense (partly dependent on more athletic players than the opponent, which is difficult to count on these days for anyone) and scoring just a bit more than the number of points you allow. It is ultimately "timeless" if more difficult than it was, but it certainly requires the right players. Of course, players who can score well help to make up for the shortcomings that might arise in the defense. It is, and has been, my worry that Viv may have a difficult time fielding a team to play her scheme or tweak it enough to match the folks she has.
But, I don't agree with your comment, because I think that Hobbs and the commentators do have a general idea of what is possible. If they are somewhat more optimistic than I feel (especially after some of these games) and lots more optimistic than you are, that's their opinion. But I don't think they are wrong that the possibility exists that the current CVS could have success.
NW is one of the better teams in the B1G this year. Ive watched them play several times this year. I didn't expect to win this one. I've decided to stop grumbling about CVS because she isn't getting fired this year. That would be a public relations nightmare. This year is an anomaly. We will have a lot more talent next year.
it was posted very early in the season that victories were going to be tough to get this year. The 3 B1G wins we have were not expected by most supporters. A loss to a solid B1G very experienced team like Northwestern shouldn't surprise anyone. It does get tiring to see every thread on this forum turn into a diatribe against the Coach.
Agree with APKnight that next year will be better.
Agree with APKnight that next year will be better.
You can talk about this till you're blue in the face, but those who want CVS gone and have been saying " replace Stringer" for years only think they are the voice of reason.
But that's alright, because: Everyone should know by now> I am [winking]
The men score 45 points in regulation and the women follow with 37 points.You can't make this up because its so difficult to watch.I understand shooting the ball is a skillset that not all players have but why does Rutgers have to be so unfortunate .The 3 point shot and the time clock have changed the way basketball games are played and Rutgers clearly is behind the times.Recruiting for both programs needs obvious improvement .
As usual it all comes down to people wanting to spend WBB money someplace else. Do a little research on Title IX.
I would like to see them spend the $700k on a women's basketball coach who can relate to today's players
Is she recruiting ANY of the top New Jersey players ? Here at the Shore, Rutgers doesn't seem to get any--at least with football,we seem to do fairly well.
with a few exceptions she has done a poor job at recruiting NJ's best..yes yes there have been some, but good lord we are the state university, we should be getting more than some and really nothing lately
Tell me in the last 10 years have you ever heard one TV commentator ever criticize CVS. I love one scenario that has happened many a time. CVS makes a bad decision that the commentators don't even understand. Instead of being critical, they always say something to the effect that the mystical CVS only knows why this was a good decision. They make excuse after excuse for her. I am afraid Hobbs is under the same spell.
Women's basketball in NJ is no where near the talent level to where it is in football or men's basketball or soccer or lacrosse. I don't think UConn has ever had a NJ player on their starting team.
well Lobo constantly mentions offense and Rutgers not having any, she isnt a fan of CVS IMO
disagree with that...top NJ talent does not want to come here...How about Mabrey who went to Notre Dame...what about Zaire O Neil from Shabazz the 12th rated player in the country who chose Ga Tech over Baylor, OSU, Georgia. RU wasnt even in the running. Mincy who went to Maryland. Hemingway who went to Cuse, Raven Farley Clark (2017) who signed with LSU. NJ may not be that strong but its not like we are getting NYC players either.
They do not want to play for her because of the style..who wants to play for a coach that does not stress offense and has stifled some trajectories.
Two players from NJ that currently play in college, Iasia Hemingway graduated from HS 10 years ago & Lauren Mincey around 7 years ago, like I said not alot of top talent in NJ. Good Job remembering Asjha Jones who graduated from UConn 15 years ago, totally forgot about her.
Not to prolong this thread but in recent years we had Syessence Davis and Shakeena Richardson from Neptune. Also Daisha Simmons (who transferred out and finished an average career at SHU). From the current team, Aliyah and Ashlii Jeune are from NJ as is freshman Jordan Wallace and senior Alex Alfano.
Mincy graduated in 2015
Simmons and Richardson both got out of here..hmm
we took an scholorship on a player who is not on this level just to get her sister
Simmons and Richardson both got out of here..hmm
we took an scholorship on a player who is not on this level just to get her sister
Well she played in the Olympics too and won a gold medal, so I think she reached her potential. I just don't think she was as talented as some of her former UConn teammates, but a lot of players weren't as talented as her teammates.
So did the OSU. They took hew twin sister Chelsey, plus they made Kelsey Mitchell's father an assistant coach. Ashli can contribute as an off the bench player.
So the idea is just to refute everything here and on every other message board. Man you could really use a life.
And BTW neither Richardson or Simmons went on to a great career. Even though one played for your revered SHU coach.
Nearly 90,000 negative posts! Can you spell I-G-N-O-R-E?
90,000 posts damn, get a life. I must have this person on ignore because I can't the posts. Is it BacRact? Glad I've had him on ignore for a lonnnnnnng time. But 90,000 posts, yikes.
I don't agree with bac and believe his agenda is a negative one, but going after the number of posts he has made on the Scarlet Nation boards ( MBB & FB along with WBB) is shooting the messenger, not disputing the message
That said most of the Stringer bashers fail to see every year under her the WBB always had a shot at winning despite having the same lack of support others sports had and were known as bottom feeders.
This year is an exception to that rule.
They seem to want anyone to take over and neglect to see the drawbacks that faced the menn and women's basketball programs and why the men's program was so bad.
Now there looks like help is coming from Hobbs, but instant gratification isn't going to happen as easily as they expect by replacing CVS.
Next year will be the gauge of her coaching ability, this year is not because of transfers sitting and injuries.
But haters are going to hate and many of them found things to hate even when the WBB program was considered one of the best under Vivian .
But if you consider someone a hater, don't attack them over the number of posts they make on alll the boards or the number bashing RU WBB and those involved with it, go after them for what they say in their messages and point out the flaws in what they claimed.