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NebChicago

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Did you think it was a TD or INT

I am not sure how the rule is written but

- The ball was pinned to his facemask as he crossed the line. Isn’t the play dead after that? TD

- also they called it a TD on the field, should’ve been harder to overturn

- Brando and Gardner were awful all night
 
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Man Woman & Child

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About as tight a call as I can remember, but it was a pick. Neyor never had full possession. Didn't make a football move, didn't control the ball to the ground, certainly didn't take 2 steps (which isn't a thing anymore, but used to be), etc. All the stuff we traditionally hear about how a "catch" is defined. And no, it doesn't matter that it was in the end zone. "Catches" that are caught in the air then come out when the player hits the ground or batted out by a defender in the end zone are called incomplete all the time. You have to do more than have the ball pinned to your facemask for a split second for it to be defined as a catch.
 
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CameronKrazie86

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Thought it was an INT as well. Nebraska's receivers keep losing a perfectly catchable ball because the opposition rips it away from them. Both of Raiola's 'interceptions' have been a result of it. Catch the ball (or make a sub 40 yd FG), win the game. Instead, it's the little things to finish up a play that led to another close loss. Feels like it's been a decade of finding a new way to lose.
 
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Headcard

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I was shocked they could overturn it. It seemed like Neyor had it when they crossed the goal line and then it was pulled out. But at least I could understand that call.
 
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RBigredMax

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headcard said:
I was shocked they could overturn it. It seemed like Neyor had it when they crossed the goal line and then it was pulled out. But at least I could understand that call.
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This - he had full control and then had foot down in the end zone. Surprised it was overturned.
 
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TosaRon

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On a pass play to the back of the end zone, it's not a “catch” until the player with the ball lands on their feet with control of the ball, and maintains that control until they either make a football move (e.g. taking another step with the ball) or hit the ground.

I can’t for the life of me understand what a catch is but found this
 
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V-Doub

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scarletred said:
🙄You think that was the problem last night ? Did you bother watching the defense at any certain point in the game?
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These WRs are a huge upgrade from last year. The offense wasn’t perfect by any means, but the defense straight **** the bed last night.
 
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GBR01

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That was an INT. Great effort by Cox to stay with the play all the way to the end.
 
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mwulf

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Thought it was an Incomplete pass. I thought the ball hit the ground when they were pulling at it
 
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Man Woman & Child

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TosaRon said:
On a pass play to the back of the end zone, it's not a “catch” until the player with the ball lands on their feet with control of the ball, and maintains that control until they either make a football move (e.g. taking another step with the ball) or hit the ground.

I can’t for the life of me understand what a catch is but found this
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Well none of that bold happened. Not even close.

100% everyone thinking that should have been a TD would be saying the exact opposite if the tables were turned.
 
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Lincoln100

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mwulf said:
Thought it was an Incomplete pass. I thought the ball hit the ground when they were pulling at it
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An Int seemed the least likely. It was either a TD or an incomplete pass. There was an angle that showed the ball hit the ground as it was getting pulled out. I couldn’t believe nobody was discussing it.

Brando was so bad I couldn’t take it
 
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Mr.Scary13

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scarletred said:
🙄You think that was the problem last night ? Did you bother watching the defense at any certain point in the game?
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Defense sucked, but we win the game if we make a simple catch in the end zone and don't allow yet another defender to take the ball away.
 
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V-Doub

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NebChicago said:
I thought Banks played great
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Banks, Neyor, Barney and Nelson are HUGE up grades over last year. But good WRs can’t win you a game if the line can’t run the ball, protect your QB, your defense can’t stop anyone and you can’t kick a field goal. Kinda hard for our WRs to elevate the team under those conditions. Our WRs did their job to win the game last night; would’ve like to see Neyor definitively wrestle that ball away from the defender in the in zone. But other than that the WRs were one of our strengths last night.
 
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Husker88

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INT.

Amazing play by both players, but a seriously incredible play by the Illinois guy. That was Sunday level stuff.
 
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V-Doub

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c3o said:
Both of his INTs are because our WRs don’t complete a catch
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I was at the game, so I probably didn’t get as good a look at it compared to watching on TV. But I said to the people around me “if that ball didn’t touch the ground, that’s an INT”. I haven’t rewatched it, but it didn’t look like the ball touched the ground. INT

Neyor needs to want it more in that situation. (Lloyd last week) But the WRs weren’t the reason we lost. DR and the WRs were the reason we were in the game. Run game was trash, defense was trash, special teams were trash and the coaching was trash.
 
Laner2

Laner2

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The announcers made the point last night that in the NFL, that was a touchdown. However college has that rule that the receiver MUST make a football move after reception. Neyor didn't, largely because he was on the ground. Hate to say it, but according to the rules it was an INT.
 
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Lionhawk85

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Laner2 said:
The announcers made the point last night that in the NFL, that was a touchdown. However college has that rule that the receiver MUST make a football move after reception. Neyor didn't, largely because he was on the ground. Hate to say it, but according to the rules it was an INT.
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Gotta “complete the catch” in the NFL too. Remember the “Calvin Johnson rule.”

Completing the catch in the sense of the Calvin Johnson example is way excessive. But Neyor never had control of the ball at all.
 
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Rick.Shaw1

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NebChicago said:
Did you think it was a TD or INT

I am not sure how the rule is written but

- The ball was pinned to his facemask as he crossed the line. Isn’t the play dead after that? TD

- also they called it a TD on the field, should’ve been harder to overturn

- Brando and Gardner were awful all night
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Interception
 
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Sinomatic

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Right call. Anyone remember when we played VT Sep 29 2009 Lee to Holt in the endzone? Had the catch in the endzone with a foot down, hit the ground out of the back of the endzone and the ball popped out? Not a catch.

It's a different call than a carried ball.

Love it or hate it, thems the rules.
 
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Clemke32

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headcard said:
I was shocked they could overturn it. It seemed like Neyor had it when they crossed the goal line and then it was pulled out. But at least I could understand that call.
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I’m with you on this. I could see it both ways, but I felt there was possession when they crossed the goal line.

I look at the call similar to a goal line play where the runner jumps over the pile. Once once the ball crosses the goal line and there’s possession the play is over, Touchdown, even if the runner gets pushed back and the ball falls out before he hits the ground, it’s still a touchdown.

The defender made a great play, that I would hands down agree they made the right call had it not been in the end zone, however it was in the end zone, and it looked like Isaiah had the catch with one foot on the ground in the end zone.
 
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Anon1674350430

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Laner2 said:
The announcers made the point last night that in the NFL, that was a touchdown. However college has that rule that the receiver MUST make a football move after reception. Neyor didn't, largely because he was on the ground. Hate to say it, but according to the rules it was an INT.
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It wasn't an interception the ball hit the ground.
 
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jteten

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25 years ago it was a tuddy, but not now. I think they got the call right with regard to the rules in college football now.
 
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Kakdawg

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I think it should've stayed at whatever the initial call was. If it was called interception I wouldnt have changed it. If it was ruled a TD I wouldn't have changed it either


Holla
 
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redli33

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StoneTempleHusker said:
INT.

Amazing play by both players, but a seriously incredible play by the Illinois guy. That was Sunday level stuff.
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Our opponents seem to be good for a couple of highly improbably/borderline impossible receiver/db plays a game. It drives me up the wall.
 
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TruHusker

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I didn’t think it was a catch last night watched a slow mo today and confirmed it. He was bringing in to gain full control and the defender had is arm in between the ball and the receivers body so he never could get full control. It was a basic rip of the ball and he ripped it himself and controlled it when going down and all through the play.

Even if you thought the WR had full control which he did not in any stretch of the imagination, he didn’t maintain it.

No catch, call correct. Some people see what they want to see.
 
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oldjar07

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redli said:
Our opponents seem to be good for a couple of highly improbably/borderline impossible receiver/db plays a game. It drives me up the wall.
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This happens in every game on Saturdays. In DI football, there's talent everywhere. We need our own talented players to step up and be ballers who can make big plays on the ball.
 
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Hard4Corn

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I think it was very likely a great interception, but should have stayed with the call on the field because at the point where the ball changed possession, you couldn't see it, therefore you couldn't say that it never touched the ground. IMO, they should have stayed with the call (wrong as it may have been) on the field.
 
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