New Intermat Rankings

[JAY45]

Three Themes: Big Drops, Big Debuts, & Baby Steps

Spratley drops from #2 to #8, ouch
Figueroa down from #8 to #17, no Ramirez yet
Lookie Lookie, #2 in the Nation, Sergio Vega
Swiderski 10 spots from #3 to #13
Robideau good Theme, #2
Lockett, good Theme, #2
Facundo actually moves up one to #16
Ryder from #4 to #9, somewhat softer drop
Merrill like Facundo moves up one spot, #10 to #9
Doucet up to #8 from #9

 

[chasepollard]

That’s going to be another problem with Natty Duals.

People love their rankings and you really need to be careful with these big drops. Troy was beat in a tight win against #1 and gave a win versus #10 away with 5 seconds left.

I also thought Konner should get more respect. He got beat by #1 by riding time.

 

[JAY45]

That’s going to be another problem with Natty Duals.

People love their rankings and you really need to be careful with these big drops. Troy was beat in a tight win against #1 and gave a win versus #10 away with 5 seconds left.

I also thought Konner should get more respect. He got beat by #1 by riding time.

You have to take the good with the bad. It’s 3rd party information for everyone to see and discuss.

You lose a couple of matches especially at a competitive weight class, you are going to drop.

Everyone knows the only ranking that matters is what happens at the end of March.

 

[Corby2]

That’s going to be another problem with Natty Duals.

People love their rankings and you really need to be careful with these big drops. Troy was beat in a tight win against #1 and gave a win versus #10 away with 5 seconds left.

I also thought Konner should get more respect. He got beat by #1 by riding time.

Losing a close match will never bump you up in the rankings. Winning matches will. The good thing is rankings don't mean anything in November. And they wont mean as much now that the coaches rankings have been restructered. It used to be 14 coaches ranking per weight and most would just follow the the ranking services. Now they made a committee with a handful of coaches ranking each weight.

 

[okokzach]

Losing a close match will never bump you up in the rankings. Winning matches will. The good thing is rankings don't mean anything in November. And they wont mean as much now that the coaches rankings have been restructered. It used to be 14 coaches ranking per weight and most would just follow the the ranking services. Now they made a committee with a handful of coaches ranking each weight.

Rankings penalize losses more than they reward wins, which is why guys (and teams) duck competition. They're just following incentives

 

[Corby2]

Rankings penalize losses more than they reward wins, which is why guys (and teams) duck competition. They're just following incentives

Yes and body of work matters. Look at Flo 149 Valencia is still below Casey (1-4 record ) because of his loss to Evans. And Block is still below Casey because Block doesn't have matches at 149. Do you guys think Casey should still be 10th and ahead of Valencia and Block?

 

[okokzach]

Yes and body of work matters. Look at Flo 149 Valencia is still below Casey (1-4 record ) because of his loss to Evans. And Block is still below Casey because Block doesn't have matches at 149. Do you guys think Casey should still be 10th and ahead of Valencia and Block?

I haven't looked at Block's body of work, but I would have Valencia ahead of Casey

 

[topc22blue]

Yes and body of work matters. Look at Flo 149 Valencia is still below Casey (1-4 record ) because of his loss to Evans. And Block is still below Casey because Block doesn't have matches at 149. Do you guys think Casey should still be 10th and ahead of Valencia and Block?

I think Casey is ultimately better than block but can’t beat Valencia in any scenario based on opening night.

 

[Pokes1988]

Still waiting for Swiderski to show up....Him and Figs.

 

[Old Number Nine]

Still waiting for Swiderski to show up....Him and Figs.

On the mat?

 

[Old Number Nine]

The crazy thing is that if our upper-classmen had come through this is what we might be looking at this week: 2,2,2,2,4,4,8,8,9,14
Troy Spratley - 2
Richard Figueroa - 14
Sergio Vega - 2
Casey Swiderski - 4
Landon Robideau - 2
Ladarion Lockett - 2
Alex Facundo - 8
Zack Ryder - 4
Cody Merrill - 9
Konner Doucet - 8
ah... c'est la vie

 

[Pokes1988]

On the mat?

 

[glorycowboy]

Expected Facundo to move higher since he lost to 2/3/4 and beat 6.

 

[chasepollard]

Expected Facundo to move higher since he lost to 2/3/4 and beat 6.

He beat 4 didn’t he?

 

[glorycowboy]

He beat 4 didn’t he?

Na, 4 is singleton, pinned Facundo. 2- Kenneday, 3- Ruiz, , 6 Minto

 

[JAY45]

If @chasepollard will allow us to discuss...

Very little in the way of changes this week.

Spratley No change this week, remains at #8. If you haven't heard, Luke Lilledahl was beat by a teammate this past week. Vince Robinson takes the #1 spot.
Figueroa drops from #17 to #21 at 1-3 on the season.
Vega holding strong at #2.
Swiderski no change at lucky #13, also 1-3 on the season.
Robideau another SuperFrosh holding at #2.
Lockett Freshman Posse at #2
Facundo improves the season record to the positive ledger at 4-3, remains at #16
Ryder no change either at #9.
Merrill 6-1, stays at #9 with the important number being 7 In and Out Burgers. With 3 Big 12 opponents ahead of him, will have his opportunities.
DOUCET holding steady at #8 looking more and more like an AA.

 

[chasepollard]

Well, they are incorrect!