NET Rankings

[Carolina151]

NET Rankings released today. Heels start the season #13- the highest ranked ACC team. One of just 2 ACC teams ranked in the Top 20(Louisville who we play in less than 2 weeks)

As of right now, just 5 Q1 opportunities in ACC play. The ACC is bad, bad in the initial ratings which doesn’t bode well for 3-4 hosts like previous years. I think the ACC gets just 2 this year of right now.

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[tarboy]

Play great at Texas and carry that forward.

This Carolina team will not be at its full peak until probably Feb.

 

[Carolina151]

How bad has the ACC been? The conference only has a combined 7 Q1 & Q2 wins- and we have 2 of them.

43 non-P4 teams are ahead of GT, BC, SMU, and Pitt in the rankings.

 

[UNC76]

The ACC is bad, bad in the initial ratings which doesn’t bode well for 3-4 hosts like previous years. I think the ACC gets just 2 this year of right now.

In Charlie Creme's latest bracketology, he has 9 ACC teams in the field, but we are the only host. Virginia and VT are both on the last 4 in list as 11 seeds. Other ACC seeds are:

9 dook
6 Louisville
7 Stanford
7 wolpfack
6 ND
10 Cal

Of course, a lot can change over the next 3+ months.

 

[Carolina151]

In Charlie Creme's latest bracketology, he has 9 ACC teams in the field, but we are the only host. Virginia and VT are both on the last 4 in list as 11 seeds. Other ACC seeds are:

9 dook
6 Louisville
7 Stanford
7 wolpfack
6 ND
10 Cal

Of course, a lot can change over the next 3+ months.

Absolutely. I think the next 3 weeks are arguably more important than the 3+ months for the conference as a whole. Have to put up a good showing in the ACC-SEC Challenge and end conference play with quality wins and little to no eye opening losses by teams. It does nothing in terms of quality wins in conference play if the ACC ends up with only 3 teams in the NET Top 30.

 

[Lumbee63]

Smh - LSU #1 without a ranked team

 

[SeaPinesHeel]

In Charlie Creme's latest bracketology, he has 9 ACC teams in the field, but we are the only host. Virginia and VT are both on the last 4 in list as 11 seeds. Other ACC seeds are:

9 dook
6 Louisville
7 Stanford
7 wolpfack
6 ND
10 Cal

Of course, a lot can change over the next 3+ months.

Dook will miss it entirely, and no way the fack hosts this year in their small gym. What is Wes going to doing without those 'necks on his side? UNC will rise to the top in March! GDTBATH

 

[Carolina151]

Smh - LSU #1 without a ranked team

or without a NET 300 opponent I believe. We have several lower opponents after Texas. Teams are starting to run it up even more, leave starters in longer, and avoid playing walk-ons last few minutes in blowouts. Playing the metrics.

 

[Nate1972]

Smh - LSU #1 without a ranked team

LSU with no quad 1 or quad 2 games so far, and only 1 quad 3 game.

 

[Carolina151]

LSU with no quad 1 or quad 2 games so far, and only 1 quad 3 game.

But they beat the Louisiana School for the Blind by 60 and scored over 100 points.

 

[tarboy]

LSU so far has an all airport team.

They look all world but they have not played anyone any good yet.

I guess they are saving up for the SEC.

 

[UNC76]

Creme updated his bracket today, and he has Miami in and dook out. That would break my heart.

 

[Carolina151]

Here are WBB Quadrants criteria that differ from MBB:

Quad 1: Home 1-25, Neutral 1-35, Away 1-45
Quad 2: Home 26-55, Neutral 36-65, Away 46-80
Quad 3: Home 56-90, Neutral 66-105, Away 81-130
Quad 4: Home 91+, Neutral 106+, Away 131+

Carolina and Louisville are the only definite Q1 opportunities for ALL ACC teams in home games. Here is how all ACC games would be based on the quadrant system:

Home Opportunities:
Quad 1: Carolina, Louisville, Stanford (by 3 spots)
Quad 2: ND, UVA, State, Cuse, Clem, Miami, Duke (fringe), VT (fringe)
Quad 3: Cal, FSU
Quad 4: WF, GT, BC, SMU, Pitt

Away Opportunities:
Quad 1: Carolina, Louisville, Stanford, ND, UVA, State (fringe), Cuse (fringe) Clem (fringe)
Quad 2: Miami, Duke, VT, Cal,
Quad 3: FSU, WF, GT
Quad 4: BC, SMU, Pitt

The ACC needs a good showing tonight and tomorrow- but I that does not keep me from wishing the woLfpack and Dookies to lose by 40 points.

 

[3397char]

Teams in blue are still on UNC's 2025-26 schedule, Gray are not in top 200, red we lost, green we won

Home Opportunities:
Quad 1: Louisville, Stanford (by 3 spots)
Quad 2: Cuse, Clem, Miami, Duke
Quad 4: SMU, Pitt, NCCU, Elon, UNCG, BostonU, UNCW, CharlestonSo

Away Opportunities:
Quad 1: ND, UVA, State (fringe),
Quad 2: Duke, VT,
Quad 3: FSU, WF, GT
Quad 4: BC, NC A&T,

Neutral:
Quad 1: Texas, UCLA,
Quad 2: Fairfield, SDSU,
Quad 3: KState, Columbia,
Quad 4: (none)

We play Texas and Louisville in the next 10 days. We have yet to log a Quad 1 win, so those games actually loom large.

Stanford & ND are early January.

Right now our best possible Quad 1 record is 6-1 if we sweep everyone (plus ACC tournament). Last season we went 7-5 with a whopping 12 Q1 games before selection day. That will no be happening again, which makes these next 4 chances pretty key.

Last season's Quad Record (with losses) before NCAA selection day:
Q1: 7-5 (UConn, ND, FSU, dook, NCSU)
Q2: 4-1 (GT)
Q3: 7-1 (UVA on senior day, ugh...)
Q4: 9-0

 

[Carolina151]

Updated NET Rankings:

We are still 13th. Fairfield surged 10 spots from 48 to 38- 3 spots away from turning our Q2 win to a Q1 win. Something to watch as they continue the year. It likely goes to a Q1 with them winning the rest of the way.

 

[Carolina151]

ACC teams combined Q1 & Q2 records:
-Carolina 3-2
-Stanford 1-1
-Syracuse 1-1
-Notre Dame 1-2
-Louisville 1-3
-VT 1-3
-State 1-3
-VT 1-3 (all Q2)
-Duke 1-6
-WF 0-1
-UVA 0-2
-Cal 0-2
-Miami 0-3
-SMU 0-3 (in Q1, Q2, and Q3 games)
-Clemson 0-4
-GT 0-5 (in Q1, Q2, and Q3 games)
-FSU 0-7

 

[Carolina151]

The following teams have lost Q4 games:

1 games: Stanford, UVA, GT, WF
2 games: BC and Pitt
3 games: SMU

 

[Carolina151]

Our remaining games this season:
-NET 15 Louisville
-NET 297 UNCW
-NET 345 Charleston Southern
-NET 204 @ Boston College
-NET 63 Cal
-Net 33 Stanford
-NET 22 @ Notre Dame
-NET 37 Miami
-NET 115 @ FSU
-NET 100 @ GT
-NET 42 Syracuse
-NET 39 @ Small Gym
-NET 51 Clemson
-NET 127 @ WF
-NET 148 SMU
-NET 40 @ Duke
-NET 66 @ VT
-NET 246 Pitt
-NET 34 @ UVA
-NET 40 Duke

That equates to:
Q1 games: 5 (Louisville, @ ND, @UVA, @ small gym, @ Duke)
Q2 games: 6 (Stanford, Miami, Syracuse, Duke, Clemson, @ VT)
Q3 games: 4 (@ FSU, @ GT, @ WF, Cal)
Q4 games: 5 (UNCW, Charleston Southern, @ BC, Pitt, SMU)

 

[3397char]

woof.... the ACC is struggling this season and the ability to improve the conference standing is about to end...

NET - Conference Rankings​

Records include games against Division I opponents only.
Conference Leader is the team in the conference with the highest NET ranking.
KEY:
NC Rec: Non-Conference Record
NC WP: Non-Conference Win Percent

Conference	Rank	NC Rec	NC WP	Conference Leader	NET
SEC	1	140-17	0.8917	LSU	2
Big Ten	2	130-20	0.8667	Michigan	3
Big 12	3	121-33	0.7857	TCU	8
ACC	4	107-64	0.6257	North Carolina	13
Big East	5	55-28	0.6627	Connecticut	1
Atlantic 10	6	65-50	0.5652	Davidson	43
Sun Belt	7	71-53	0.5726	James Madison	50
American	8	54-61	0.4696	South Florida	65
Ivy League	9	43-32	0.5733	Princeton	31
Western Athletic	10	29-23	0.5577	Abilene Christian	108

I suspecyt there is a pretty solid dividing line between #3 and #4, and the top 2 are way ahead.

 

[3397char]

ACC teams combined Q1 & Q2 records:
-Carolina 3-2
-Stanford 1-1
-Syracuse 1-1
-Notre Dame 1-2
-Louisville 1-3
-VT 1-3
-State 1-3
-VT 1-3 (all Q2)
-Duke 1-6
-WF 0-1
-UVA 0-2
-Cal 0-2
-Miami 0-3
-SMU 0-3 (in Q1, Q2, and Q3 games)
-Clemson 0-4
-GT 0-5 (in Q1, Q2, and Q3 games)
-FSU 0-7

ACC Quad 1 games only:

UNC: 0-2
Ville: 0-3
ND: 1-2 (USC)
UVA: 1-2
Stan: 0-0
dook: 0-5
Miami: 0-3
NCSU: 1-3 (Tenn)
Cuse: 0-1
Clem: 0-4
VT: 0-0
Cal: 0-1
FSU: 0-3 (includes loss to ND)
GT: 0-2
WF: 0-0
SMU: 0-1
BC: 0-0

2-32

 

[floridatarheel]

0-3

 

[Jriv23]

We needed this win and FT's cost us this game.

 

[tarboy]

Plus lack of execution on the inbounds play with 10 seconds on the clock.

 

[Carolina151]

Stanford, without one of their best players, beats a Top 25 Washington squad. Their reward? A Q2 win and they don’t move in the updated NET rankings. Make it make sense.

 

[Carolina151]

Cool look at several rankings all on one document.

 

[mpaer]

Cool look at several rankings all on one document.

Where is Dook? Where is Da Wuffpack?

 

[Jriv23]

Although Duke and State on not on the list which I do love, we must be mindful that we have not fair good against Quad 1 teams right now. We know that NC State and Duke will be charged up when we play them; therefore, our girls will have to take care of business before we play them, starting with BC. We cannot overlook them because the last time we went to BC, they beat us there.

 

[Carolina151]

Heels rise 3 spots back up to #17 in the NET.

-USC picks up a Quad 1 road win over NET 12 Nebraska and only rises 2 spots from 22 to 20.

-ND drops from 16 to 18 with “just” a 35-point home win over Pitt. The Irish were picked by 44. Pitt and BC are side by side in the NET.

Blowouts and win margins are crucial to make jumps in the NET.

Up next and the remainign for the Heels:
-NET 63 Cal
-NET 36 Stanford (RVs)
-NET 18 @ ND
-NET 41 Miami
-NET 113 @FSU
-NET 116 @GT
-NET 44 Cuse
-NET 30 @State
-NET 42 Clemson
-NET 117 @WF
-NET 137 SMU
-NET 24 @ Duke
-NET 51 @ VT
-NET 233 Pitt
-NET 35 @ UVA
-NET 24 Duke

-13-3 guarantees a Top 4 ACC finish and earns a host which would be a 25-6 (14-4) overall record heading into the ACCT.
-12-4 likely means a Top 4 ACC seed and bye for the ACCT with a 13-5 conference finish and a 24-7 record. Probably would need at least 1 win the ACCT to host.

-Anything better than 13-3 would be looking and we’re really talking and having a lot of fun on this message board and in Carmichael with our young Heels.

 

[JOB1937]

“Blowouts and win margins are crucial to make jumps in the NET.”

Which is absurd and bad for the game (sportsmanship and not letting walkons or less experienced players get more minutes).

Your NET rating goes up more by crushing an inferior team than by barely beating a similar team.

 

[Jriv23]

Yeah, I totally agree. This is hurting sportsmanship and preventing walk-on and less experienced players being able to play when they are getting blown out. It all falls on the HC now. If I was a HC and my team was getting blown out and I knew there was no way would could win, I would play the other players who hardly ever play. Case in point would be last night's game against BC. I thought the BC coach should have played Lapointe more. She was an AA lacrosse player for BC who is now in graduate school at BC. She is a leader and a competitor. She only played two minutes which I thought sucked. She was a really good basketball player in high school. Her lacrosse career at BC is over. She helped BC out by coming out to play basketball as a grad student. BC has injuries now and she is a person that is helping out during practices, etc by being on the team. I did not understand why the BC coach did not play her with 8 minutes left to go in the game. The game was clearly over. The other girls on their team who got a ton of playing time was not doing much to impact the game so why not put her in and let her get more time. A 53 point lost backs up what I am saying and what JOB1937 is saying about the effects of the NET rankings. The NET rankings is also showing us that there are only four quad 1 wins for us to win in the ACC moving forward which suggest the game against Stanford is a must win game.