N C State Preview and Game Thread

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NCAA NET 28 (UNC 21); Massey Rating 24 (UNC 23); RPI 19 (Nolan) (UNC 41); Torvik 20 (UNC 21)
Last season 28-7 (16-2, tie 1st); 2-1 ACCT; 2-1 NCAAT (L to LSU 73-80)

Monday evening’s game for the 17 – 5 (6 -3) and #26/23 Tar Heels is with N. C. State in Raleigh. It is the only meeting this season. In the interest of geographical accuracy, the game will be played on the Kay Yow Court, James T. Valvano Arena at William Neal Reynolds Coliseum, NCSU Campus, Raleigh NC USA, and North America on Planet Earth. Maps are available online.

The two schools have met 121 times; with State leading 65-56.

Last year, the Heels prevailed 66-65 at home. In this game Reniya Kelly had 23 points on 5 of 9 from three. The biggest factor though was most certainly the injury to Alyssa Ustby, who left the floor after just 3 minutes. Lanie Grant saw 33 minutes and contributed 9 points and 6 rebounds. NCSU put four players into double figures led by Aziaha James with 16. The two teams were destined to meet again, this time in the ACCT. State won 66-55 behind 19 points from the continually annoying James.

For this game, State is a 6-point favorite according to Massey. Nolan’s ranking favors State by 5. Torvik has State by 3.

Their non-conference record is 7-4, and the four losses included three to ranked teams. These games were 68-69 to #18 S. Cal. in the Ally Tip-off in Charlotte, 59-69 to #17 TCU in Raleigh and the third loss to a ranked team was in the ACC/SEC Challenge at #9 Oklahoma, 98-103 in OT. The fourth loss was at home to unranked Rhode Island 63-68. Rhode Island was then 6-1 in the A-10. The balance of the n/c schedule was solid; comprising the usual mid-major suspects except for a season opener against #8 Tennessee that NCSU won 80-77 and a 79-67 win over Green Bay in Cancun. Other wins came against Maine, Coastal Carolina, Southern Miss, Seton Hall and Davidson. SoS by the NCAA is 16 and by Nolan 8. For Carolina it is 73 and 70.

NCSU is 8-2 in ACC play and in third place behind 10-0 Louisville and dook. The December ACC games were against Miami down in Coral Reef (W 87-61) and at home with Georgia Tech (W 87-58). The rest of the ACC schedule: home with Stanford (W 74-46) and Cal (W 71-60); a road loss to Clemson 65-75, with SMU (W 91-54, at Wake (W 95-77), at Raleigh in tiny Reynolds against Louisville, a back-and-forth game that State lost 80-88 in overtime, then at Virginia (W 78-76 in OT). Most recently at BC, comfortably nestled in 18th place at 0-9, was defeated again 106-84.

While NCSU is a decent power defensively (7th ACC), BC is no power offensively (17th). Someone might wonder how BC could get 84 points against the Pack.

UNC is next up.

Moo U’s record may not be what Wuffie fans expected, and in fact NCSU is not ranked in either Top-25 poll although they do get five votes from the AP, good enough for 30th. Don’t be fooled by that. For the Heels no wins against State are ever easy, no matter where played or what the ranking of each team might be. It will be a rock fight.

There are three starters from last year that have gone their merry way: Aziaha James and Saniya Rivers to the W, and Madison Hayes to Italy. McDonald’s AA Zoe Brooks, a 5-10 sophomore G who was a starter last year as a rookie, is back and averages a team-leading 18.3 ppg plus leading the team in assists and steals.

From mid-season in 2025 and all but two games this year a second starter has been Tilda Trygger, a 6-6 sophomore C (12.2/8.1). She is from Sweden so assumed to be the team expert in meatball preparation; also is not afraid to shoot threes, 37.8%. Her backup continues to be Mallory Collier, a 6-3 junior C (2.1/1.1).

The transfer portal provided two other starters. They are Qadence Samuels (UConn), a 6-0 junior G (6.3/4.8) and Khamil Pierre (Vanderbilt), a 6-2 junior F (18.2/10.3). As she did for the Commodores, Pierre averages a double-double and is second (by 0.1 point) in scoring but leading in rebounding (#3 ACC). The leader in blocks, however, is Trygger.

The final starter has generally been 5-7 sophomore G Zamareya Jones (15.8/3.6). A former McD’s AA, she is the top 3-point threat both in number of attempts (120) and accuracy (.392). Her classmate Devyn Quigley, a 5-11 sophomore G (3.7/2.3) has several starts and otherwise is 6th player. For some reason I always thought she was Australian but in fact she is from New Jersey.

Maddie Cox, a 6-2 junior F (3.3 ppg) is also in the rotation. Finally, the two freshmen on the team will play, and particularly in conference games 5-10 G Destiny Lunan has been a help. Lunan (5.4 ppg) is a reliable 3-point shooter at 38.5%. For whatever reason, she likes to be called Ky’She. The other freshman is Adelaide Jernigan, a 5-11 G (2.4). In high school (Bishop McGuinness in Winston-Salem) she holds the school record for points (2,528) and three-pointers. Despite these impressive credentials that had her widely regarded as the #1 prospect in NC, Jernigan sees only 6½ minutes. Transfer portal maybe? We should be watching.

One other returnee was 6-5 sophomore C Lorena Awou, who played in 3 games and then vanished. She no longer appears on the roster and apparently is no longer active with the team. Wes Moore says “We’re just going through a time right now where she’s kind of suspended for the moment” Kind of suspended for the moment? Looks more like dismissed from the team. Why not just say that?

Experience with past games has established that stats mean very little in determining the outcome of intense rivalry games.

That said, N C State is first in the ACC in scoring (83.4) and is seventh in defense (67.9). UNC by comparison is 9th in scoring (70.4) and 4th in defense (61.6). State has three players in the top ten scoring, and Zoe Brooks is #1 in FT% at 91.5%. Not the one to foul in end game situations. Actually NCSU has an advantage in most offensive categories, having gotten a boost by scoring106 points against BC. On a percentage basis on defense, UNC is the better team against both overall FG% (.358, #1) and 3P% (.261, #2).

It might be noted that halfway through conference play Carolina has worked its way into the top half in free throws: .736 for #9. Who would have thought it?

Wes Moore, in his 13th season at NCSU, has a record there of 316-101 (153-58 ACC) and has taken State to eight NCAA tournaments with the best result being a Final Four finish in 2024. As a general rule Moore has used his bench frequently and this year has eight players averaging double figures and four starters average over 30 minutes. By comparison Carolina has 10 but none over 30.

North Carolina’s position is basically this: they sit in 7th place at 6-3. Louisville at 10-0 is three and a half games ahead and Louisville holds the tiebreaker. While still mathematically possible, catching the Cards for 1st would be seen by most experts impossible odds. UNC is also 3½ behind dook but there are 2 games remaining with them. UNC is 1½ behind NCSU but a win would award Carolina the vital tiebreaker. The teams in 5th and 6th – Virginia and Virginia Tech – UNC has yet to play. Losses in the second half of the season are never good. Those tiebreakers are killers.

Carolina has won its last four games, although if some of the fans are to be believed the last two of those wins were not impressive and should have resulted in a coaching change as the team was leaving the court. Against Syracuse, there were 20 turnovers. Against Georgia Tech, UNC was 28.8% from the floor and just 22.2% from three. Those numbers repeated against Cow College will lead to an unpleasant result – although not to a coaching change..

State, normally guard-dominated, has through the development of Trygger and the addition of Pierre become more balanced. They would very much like to make another Final Four trip in 2026 and a loss to UNC may hurt them in terms of NCAA seeding – not to mention that the Heels are their most hated opponent.

Game time is Monday 6:00 PM EST with TV by ESPN2. GoHeels On Demand will have the audio link with Matt Krause on the call.


PS: The length of this particular preview is a result, in part, of eight days between games. I will try to keep the Clemson preview to something less than War and Peace.
 

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From a Wuffie friend (I know....) she likes to be called "Ky'she" because her favorite player is Kyrie Irving, hence "ky'she"

Also, Awou has been announced as dismissed-she is heading to Baylor.

I believe this game I also their "Play4Kay" game, so expect plenty of emotion off the court.

Length was perfect Zin....love it.

BEAT THE PECKERS
 

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It's going to take an outstanding effort from the women to win against State in Raleigh. UNC must find some offensive consistency if they want to win this game, and reduce unforced T/O's. BT must show up to help Toomey against State's inside game with their 6'6" center, rebounding will be a key as well. Must admit that Brooks will be hard to contain, wished she had decided to come to Carolina.
 

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This is going to be a hard game to win. As some of you guys have stated. We have to start out the game first. We cannot have a slow start. We must have a low turnover rate for this game. We must make our free throws, etc. We must be mentally tough because we know their fans are going to attack us verbally and mentally. They hate us the worst; therefore, you know they are going to be ready. We need to use the comments by Zoey Brooks at the ACC kickoff in CLT as motivation. We have not beaten them in Raleigh in a long time. Each game moving forward is a must win game. We have to hold ourselves to the standard every game now. Go Heels!
 

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It's going to take an outstanding effort from the women to win against State in Raleigh. UNC must find some offensive consistency if they want to win this game, and reduce unforced T/O's. BT must show up to help Toomey against State's inside game with their 6'6" center, rebounding will be a key as well. Must admit that Brooks will be hard to contain, wished she had decided to come to Carolina.
First game Last season Zoe Brooks was 4 of 13 for 10 points, with no assists, 1 TO. Reniya Kelly was 9 of 18 for 23 points, 1 assist, 1 TO. Kelly definitely got the betetr of her, with Grant's help on defense.

Second game Last season Zoe Brooks was 3 of 9 for 6 points, with 2 assists, 4 TO. Reniya Kelly was 1 of 5 for 2 points, no assist, 2 TO. Kelly only played 16 minutes and did not appear to be 100% (she was out injured for multiple games, with her first game back the night before.)

Now Brooks is a better player (not a freshman playing on the road) and Kelly struggled early this year. But the history is there: these UNC players can contain her. Hoping for a similar result. It is OK if Brooks gets hers; just keep the efficiency down.
 
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UNC had one of its worst shooting nights of the year in the ACCT last season vs NCSU: 28% FGs (20% 3pt FGs). And NCSU was not particularly good at defense last year ,so we just did not bring it that day. the defense showed up, holding NCSU well below their season average, but our legs were just not there on jump shots, it seems.

Or maybe we just choked. NCSU went on a whopping 21-0 run starting with 8:24 left in Q1 until 7:48 left in Q2. Yes, that is over 10 minutes where we did not score a single point. Yikes. At that point it was 21-5 and NCSU lead by 7 points or more the rest of the game. They lead by 17 entering Q3. it was a blowout. While the final score did not necessarily show it, it was our worst game of teh year, even worse than the dook debacle in the NCAAT in my eyes.

It was our 3rd close game in 3 days as we failed to earn the 1st round bye. and were never able to rest the main rotation much. NCSU also had a close game the previous night, but did have a first round bye the night prior. 2 nights prior was Ustby's 1st game back from injury and the night prior was Kelly's first game back from injury. Neither was 100%
 

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I will be looking for two key stats this game:
  • NCSU FG%: they average 48.2% in league play, tops in the ACC. We will have a hard time beating them if they can perform at the level of efficiency. Fortunately we lead the conference in def FG% at 0.358%. Hold them below 40% and I like our chances.
  • Rebounding differential: Pierre is an absolute beast on the boards: 7th nationally. But as a team they are 4th in the ACC in rebounding differential at +7.3. Which is of course really good but we can chip away at that Pierre advantage with team rebounding. UNC is 7th in the conference at team rebounding at only +3.8, but more importantly we went -5, -12 and -8 in our three ACC losses. We have to win or at least tie the rebounding battle.
 

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I will be looking for two key stats this game:
  • NCSU FG%: they average 48.2% in league play, tops in the ACC. We will have a hard time beating them if they can perform at the level of efficiency. Fortunately we lead the conference in def FG% at 0.358%. Hold them below 40% and I like our chances.
  • Rebounding differential: Pierre is an absolute beast on the boards: 7th nationally. But as a team they are 4th in the ACC in rebounding differential at +7.3. Which is of course really good but we can chip away at that Pierre advantage with team rebounding. UNC is 7th in the conference at team rebounding at only +3.8, but more importantly we went -5, -12 and -8 in our three ACC losses. We have to win or at least tie the rebounding battle.

I’m looking for a couple things:

1) they’re really good in transition. Brooks, jones, Pierre, in particular. Can we limit live-ball TOs and keep them from going 1:1 on the offensive end. If we do, we have an excellent chance of winning.

2) they have the 13th ranked defense in the conference in ACC play at 67 ppg despite having played 7 of the bottom 9 teams in the league. The last 6 ACC games vs Clemson, SMU, WF, Louisville, UVA, and BC they have given up 76ppg. Take out the SMU game and it is 80ppg. Now, they “don’t” commit fouls- ranking Top 10 in the country in avg fouls committed a game at 12. Expect a physical game.
 

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I also wouldn’t be surprised to see us play quite a bit of zone. Not sure if we are good enough defensively to allow 1:1 with Jones, Brooks, Pierre, Trygger.

this would mean daring others to shoot 3s- some of which will be open looks.

through 21 games, they have hit 132 (6.2 per game). Jones has hit 47 of the 132. The others:
-Jones 47-120
-Pierre 1-6
-Brooks 11-46 (23%)
-Trygger 17-45
-Samuels: 19-76 (25%)
-Lunan 15-39
-Quigley 8-38 (21%)
-Cox 10-29
-Jernigan 4-21

Now someone on that list is liable to pop-off and hit 4 or 5 tonight- it always seems someone does. But I take my chances with that as opposed to 1:1 with these players and their 2-pt %.

-Trygger 61%
-Quigley 57%
-pierre 55%
-Samuels 50%
-Brooks 46% (and red hot)
 

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Great posts ! Zone with a tight cover on Zam Jones might be the defense needed.

Whatever we play we are going to have to make our shots. I hope our WBB players are
coming in ready to play at the top of their game.

Make no doubt about ittonight is not only an important game it is a great opportunity.
We need to take advantage of it.
 

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3397Char you cannot compare Zoey Brooks to RK from last year's game. ZB was a freshmen last year. She did not have to to much against UNC because they had AJ, MH, SR who were seniors to do it. Also, as seniors on NC State last year there was no way in blank those three were going to take a back seat to ZB. That was their team. If you go back and look at RK's freshman year and compare that to ZB's freshmen year that would be a fair comparison. Also, ZB has made that huge jump from her freshmen year to her sophomore year. She has the highest FT percentage in the ACC, She is averaging over 16 points a game and she is NC State's leading scorer by a needle thread over KP. Now if you compare her this year's stats to RK stats this year, ZB has better stats, but we know RK has surgery over the summer; therefore, her stats are misleading. By point is, I would not like to compare those two right now because the stats are skewed by other factors you have to consider. I will use one factor to make my point. You cannot compare a freshman to a sophomore or junior who has been in the ACC for a whole year and that is exactly what you just did. Bottom line, we need all hands on deck in order to have a chance of winning tonight. We are going to have to stop or slow down their starting five.
 
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This game is a Quad 1 game. As of today, we do not have a Quad 1 win at all. You can through the stats out. This is a rivalry game at NC State. They are going to be pump up and ready for us. We have to do the same. Go Heels!
 

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I also wouldn’t be surprised to see us play quite a bit of zone. Not sure if we are good enough defensively to allow 1:1 with Jones, Brooks, Pierre, Trygger.

this would mean daring others to shoot 3s- some of which will be open looks.

through 21 games, they have hit 132 (6.2 per game). Jones has hit 47 of the 132. The others:
-Jones 47-120
-Pierre 1-6
-Brooks 11-46 (23%)
-Trygger 17-45
-Samuels: 19-76 (25%)
-Lunan 15-39
-Quigley 8-38 (21%)
-Cox 10-29
-Jernigan 4-21

Now someone on that list is liable to pop-off and hit 4 or 5 tonight- it always seems someone does. But I take my chances with that as opposed to 1:1 with these players and their 2-pt %.

-Trygger 61%
-Quigley 57%
-pierre 55%
-Samuels 50%
-Brooks 46% (and red hot)
You make a strong point. I do hope we pack it in a bit regardless of the defense.

The main issue with zone will be rebounding: if does no good if they get 2nd shots. When we have played zone this year our defensive rebounding has gone from meh to ugh.

I do want some zone (keep them guessing) but not the base defense for the game. Unless they are smoking our half court defense and we need to pivot.
 

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You make a strong point. I do hope we pack it in a bit regardless of the defense.

The main issue with zone will be rebounding: if does no good if they get 2nd shots. When we have played zone this year our defensive rebounding has gone from meh to ugh.

I do want some zone (keep them guessing) but not the base defense for the game. Unless they are smoking our half court defense and we need to pivot.
The one positive would possibly be long rebounds on their 3-point attempts. Nivar, Hull, Kelly, Grant, Brooks, and Aaarnisalo have to rebound hard
 
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3397Char you cannot compare Zoey Brooks to RK from last year's game. ZB was a freshmen last year. She did not have to to much against UNC because they had AJ, MH, SR who were seniors to do it. Also, as seniors on NC State last year there was no way in blank those three were going to take a back seat to ZB. That was their team. If you go back and look at RK's freshman year and compare that to ZB's freshmen year that would be a fair comparison. Also, ZB has made that huge jump from her freshmen year to her sophomore year. She has the highest FT percentage in the ACC, She is averaging over 16 points a game and she is NC State's leading scorer by a needle thread over KP. Now if you compare her this year's stats to RK stats this year, ZB has better stats, but we know RK has surgery over the summer; therefore, her stats are misleading. By point is, I would not like to compare those two right now because the stats are skewed by other factors you have to consider. I will use one factor to make my point. You cannot compare a freshman to a sophomore or junior who has been in the ACC for a whole year and that is exactly what you just did. Bottom line, we need all hands on deck in order to have a chance of winning tonight. We are going to have to stop or slow down their starting five.
I already acknowledged in my post that she was a freshman on the road last year and this year is different. No need to call me out for that. But the point remains: a healthy RK has shown she can slow Brooks. Better than almost every other team in the ACC last year. Whether that is still the case we shall see. I never said it would happen this year, just that it is a possibility. But we clearly could not slow Hidalgo this year (yet again) so maybe not. We shall see.

But in regards to her playing 2nd fiddle last year, that was not true. She was 2nd on their team last year in FG attempts. And she took her shots when NCSU played us. She took 22 shots in those two games, an average of 11 per game. That is not wallflower basketball.

ZB was 1st All-ACC last season. In fact she was the 2nd highest vote getter from last year to return to the ACC this year behind Hidalgo. As a consequence, she was the 2nd highest vote getter on this 2025-26 preseason All-ACC team, behind Hidalgo.

So you are misremembering her freshman year. RK was 2nd team. You could argue that RK played 2nd fiddle to 3 seniors more so than Zoe Brooks. But the reality is they BOTH played at a high level. Until RK was hobbled.

Brooks will score in double digits, probably meet her average of 16 PPG. But the question is, how many shots does it take for her to get there. That is what I will be focused on: efficiency.
 

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Yeah, they just do not like us. I would like to see us do some half court press and a little full court press some just to mix things up tonight.
 
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No defense either team in first 5 min. A couple of time we actually stopped them they get the rebound/loose ball
 

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I like Nyla, she’ll be very good someday. But she’s clueless on defense right now. And the 3 isn’t falling which shows the limits of her offensive game. No drive, no pull ups, just stand-still 3s.
 
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Only 1 fouls called on each team in Q1. Time to up the physicality.
 

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Is there any position 1-5 where we are better? Probably the 3 spot with Nivar. That is it.