"mutually agreed metrics"

Lincoln100

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Sounds like Frost's pay goes back up in 2023 if he reaches this standard. Time to guess on what it means. Go!
 

realHuskerDrew

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Probably some ****** ******** like 6 wins.
I don’t expect anything different from this piece of **** program now to be honest.
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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Sounds like Frost's pay goes back up in 2023 if he reaches this standard. Time to guess on what it means. Go!
It means Scott took a pay cut to make way for new OC staff. If they reach the agreed metrics, Scott‘s pay goes back to normal, if not, he is out and then the AD promotes the new OC to head coach (prob his long term plan anyway).

I’d like to hear what the metrics are, because it is probably a setup to send Scott packing regardless of what happens.

this is like the slow motion firing and hiring in my opinion, and depending on how it goes, Trev gets to tinker with it.
 

Anegada1

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It means Scott took a pay cut to make way for new OC staff. If they reach the agreed metrics, Scott‘s pay goes back to normal, if not, he is out and then the AD promotes the new OC to head coach (prob his long term plan anyway).

I’d like to hear what the metrics are, because it is probably a setup to send Scott packing regardless of what happens.

this is like the slow motion firing and hiring in my opinion, and depending on how it goes, Trev gets to tinker with it.
Interesting if true !
 

Lincoln100

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It means Scott took a pay cut to make way for new OC staff. If they reach the agreed metrics, Scott‘s pay goes back to normal, if not, he is out and then the AD promotes the new OC to head coach (prob his long term plan anyway).

I’d like to hear what the metrics are, because it is probably a setup to send Scott packing regardless of what happens.

this is like the slow motion firing and hiring in my opinion, and depending on how it goes, Trev gets to tinker with it.
uh, yeah, thanks . . . "what it means" was referring to "what the metrics are."
 

HuskerAlum92

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His buyout is not reduced until Oct 1, 2022. I wonder if the metrics will be evaluated on Oct 2 or end of season.
 

SuperBigFan

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Frost is no longer anything but the face of NU Football. He made a deal where he can stay and hopefully NU starts off with a lot of 9 win seasons. 9 wins and Frost will stay for 25 years and most fans will be happy.
 

HuskerAlum92

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The updated agreement, which was signed by Frost and athletic director Trev Alberts on Thursday and obtained by the Journal Star via records request, says that Frost will have his salary reduced to $4 million, as Alberts confirmed at the start of the week.

It also gives Frost the opportunity to bump his salary back to $5 million in 2023 and beyond if the program achieves certain "metrics" in 2022 that he and the university agree on. Should the Huskers achieve those metrics next year, Frost's salary will bump back up and the length of the agreement will extend by a year through Dec. 31, 2027.

If he does not achieve the mutually agreed upon metrics in 2022, his salary will remain at $4 million for 2023 and beyond.
 

antirowboat

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The key date is Oct. 1st. That would be 6 games and Oct 2nd starts a bye week.

Thus, Frost will have 6 games to prove he should remain as the head coach.

That is why the dates work out that way. Trev is a smart guy and knows what he is doing.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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uh, yeah, thanks . . . "what it means" was referring to "what the metrics are."
There can be a gazillion metrics involved, most of which none of us are going to be privy to.

For example, Trev could say, you can't have any dip in your cheek during your official duties. (Practice, game day, recruiting, press conferences, etc). 99% of the fans would agree with something like this.

You can't go to the casino and play cards.
(Is it recreational or is SF a problem gambler?) None of us know.

Just giving an example of what can actually be a requirement for continued employment, aside from wins and losses.

Outside of the normal hiring and rehiring requisites, it can almost be like SF is being baby sat by Trev.

Metrics can really make things uncomfortable, but as long as they don't defy legal standards, its possible.

I'v seen some pretty outrageous agreements that have to be agreed to in order to continue employment.
 
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The key date is Oct. 1st. That would be 6 games and Oct 2nd starts a bye week.

Thus, Frost will have 6 games to prove he should remain as the head coach.

That is why the dates work out that way. Trev is a smart guy and knows what he is doing.
1st six games: Northwestern, North Dakota, Ga. Southern, Oklahoma, Rutgers, Indiana. The record better be 5-1 min. and 6-0 being Bowl eligible. Last six: Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Purdue, Illinois, Iowa.

Batter-up!!
 
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It means Scott took a pay cut to make way for new OC staff. If they reach the agreed metrics, Scott‘s pay goes back to normal, if not, he is out and then the AD promotes the new OC to head coach (prob his long term plan anyway).

I’d like to hear what the metrics are, because it is probably a setup to send Scott packing regardless of what happens.

this is like the slow motion firing and hiring in my opinion, and depending on how it goes, Trev gets to tinker with it.
So if the new OC doesn't help reach the agreed metrics then they hire him as HC?

Agreed I would need to see what the metrics to get a better understanding. If it productivity based, why would the new OC help reach the metrics if he was going to take over if the metrics aren't met.

Here is the goal, I want you to help your boss reach that goal, if he doesn't reach that goal, we will promote you to replace him. Now get out there and meet the goals.
 
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So if the new OC doesn't help reach the agreed metrics then they hire him as HC?

Agreed I would need to see what the metrics to get a better understanding. If it productivity based, why would the new OC help reach the metrics if he was going to take over if the metrics aren't met.

Here is the goal, I want you to help your boss reach that goal, if he doesn't reach that goal, we will promote you to replace him. Now get out there and meet the goals.
Agree, what a joke.
 

HuskerAlum92

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So if the new OC doesn't help reach the agreed metrics then they hire him as HC?

Agreed I would need to see what the metrics to get a better understanding. If it productivity based, why would the new OC help reach the metrics if he was going to take over if the metrics aren't met.

Here is the goal, I want you to help your boss reach that goal, if he doesn't reach that goal, we will promote you to replace him. Now get out there and meet the goals.
Classic!
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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So if the new OC doesn't help reach the agreed metrics then they hire him as HC?

Agreed I would need to see what the metrics to get a better understanding. If it productivity based, why would the new OC help reach the metrics if he was going to take over if the metrics aren't met.

Here is the goal, I want you to help your boss reach that goal, if he doesn't reach that goal, we will promote you to replace him. Now get out there and meet the goals.
I think he has time to evaluate it.. if they don’t meet the metrics but he feels frost is not allowing the OC to do his job, then something like a promotion of the OC is possible.

if the OC is bad, we’ll he will have to come up with another idea of course

you also have to consider that the metrics might be for SF, not for the OC.. if they are trying to slow play him out, those metrics could be something like ncaa violations that didn’t occur when the OC was here or something absurd like dipping as someone said.

any OC could be promoted as a head coach gets fired, at any university today, but that doesn’t cause OC to sabotage the head coach.
 
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SickOfPractice

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So THAT'S why we merely field punts and don't try to return them... so we can easily beat the metric of 2.7 yards per punt return next year!!
😎
 

jflores

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I also think Nikki is way out in left field on this one. We're not getting an OC who is capable of being a HC.
 

jflores

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So if the new OC doesn't help reach the agreed metrics then they hire him as HC?

Agreed I would need to see what the metrics to get a better understanding. If it productivity based, why would the new OC help reach the metrics if he was going to take over if the metrics aren't met.

Here is the goal, I want you to help your boss reach that goal, if he doesn't reach that goal, we will promote you to replace him. Now get out there and meet the goals.

I personally don't think the bar is going to be astronomically high. Trev has repeated a couple of times now he's fine with incremental (rather than radical) progress. I'm going to guess something in the ball park of bowl eligible and maybe a couple of other minor points as the minimum line in the sand.
 

jflores

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His buyout is not reduced until Oct 1, 2022. I wonder if the metrics will be evaluated on Oct 2 or end of season.

People think Trev is coming in and wielding the hammer but he's really not. If he wanted to put a hard edge on things, he'd basically come out and say something to the effect that competing for division titles and being bowl eligible every year is the absolute minimum of performance acceptable out of a program of our caliber and Frost has the chance to demonstrate that under his vision.

The fact that words are being chosen like "mutually agreed" indicates to me that its not simply "9 wins or else" from Trev. Also the fact that any metrics are going to be kept secret basically they can do whatever they want, and make up whatever story they want later, to justify their decision. Whether its to keep Frost or not.

I would expect Trev is going to have a pretty good idea of which direction Frost will go in the first handful of games but he won't actually do any final evaluating until the end of the season, unless the wheels just absolutely come off early and its obvious Frost won't survive another year.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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I also think Nikki is way out in left field on this one. We're not getting an OC who is capable of being a HC.
NU likely won't, but hiring either Tom Herman or Bill O'Brien and those two have proven capable and have been Head Coaches, and will be again at some point.
 

HuskerAlum92

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People think Trev is coming in and wielding the hammer but he's really not. If he wanted to put a hard edge on things, he'd basically come out and say something to the effect that competing for division titles and being bowl eligible every year is the absolute minimum of performance acceptable out of a program of our caliber and Frost has the chance to demonstrate that under his vision.

The fact that words are being chosen like "mutually agreed" indicates to me that its not simply "9 wins or else" from Trev. Also the fact that any metrics are going to be kept secret basically they can do whatever they want, and make up whatever story they want later, to justify their decision. Whether its to keep Frost or not.

I would expect Trev is going to have a pretty good idea of which direction Frost will go in the first handful of games but he won't actually do any final evaluating until the end of the season, unless the wheels just absolutely come off early and its obvious Frost won't survive another year.
Then why the date of Oct 1, 2022? That just happens to be the day we begin a bye week, after completing 6 games of which only OU is scary. It seems he wants the option to end it early if it’s ugly.
 

HASSAN CHOP

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Sounds like Frost's pay goes back up in 2023 if he reaches this standard. Time to guess on what it means. Go!
Easy. Here they are:

1. Win at least one conference game
2. Have a specials teams unit ranked 120 or better
3. Make at least 51% of our field goal attempts
4. Have a red zone conversion rate above 10%
5. Play A. Martinez all year even if he loses his legs and right arm in an accident
6. Frost must have a dip in for all speaking engagements
7. Frost must wear the same gray suit when appropriate
8. Use the word “process” after every game next year
 

HuskerBruce81

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So if the new OC doesn't help reach the agreed metrics then they hire him as HC?

Agreed I would need to see what the metrics to get a better understanding. If it productivity based, why would the new OC help reach the metrics if he was going to take over if the metrics aren't met.

Here is the goal, I want you to help your boss reach that goal, if he doesn't reach that goal, we will promote you to replace him. Now get out there and meet the goals.
It should be Chinander. If Alberts snapped a pool cue and threw it between Chinander and Frost like the Joker I wouldn't be upset.
 

jflores

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Then why the date of Oct 1, 2022? That just happens to be the day we begin a bye week, after completing 6 games of which only OU is scary. It seems he wants the option to end it early if it’s ugly.

The flip side of that is he could turn some early success into job security for Scott citing our fast start and trajectory. Only Trev really knows.
 

cHUCK001

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The contract makes Frost sound like a spoiled rotten child that has been given a time-out. And that is exactly what he is. They should have fired his *** at the end of the season and been done with it.
 

anon1765477286

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It means Scott took a pay cut to make way for new OC staff. If they reach the agreed metrics, Scott‘s pay goes back to normal, if not, he is out and then the AD promotes the new OC to head coach (prob his long term plan anyway).

I’d like to hear what the metrics are, because it is probably a setup to send Scott packing regardless of what happens.

this is like the slow motion firing and hiring in my opinion, and depending on how it goes, Trev gets to tinker with it.
I'm sure that is TA's way of looking at it. I'm also sure SF is looking at like, I'm going to get this thing turned around and we are going to win 9-10 games next year. It's a win win for both and for many of the fans imo. Obviously if you were a die hard, fire Frost guy then it doesn't satisfy that group. I don't see it as a negative in any way UNLESS there was a big time experienced coach that made it known he wanted to come here and we passed on him. I can live with the risk of another losing season knowing that the outcome is predetermined if that happens.