Sounds like Frost's pay goes back up in 2023 if he reaches this standard. Time to guess on what it means. Go!
Where are you getting this?Sounds like Frost's pay goes back up in 2023 if he reaches this standard. Time to guess on what it means. Go!
It means Scott took a pay cut to make way for new OC staff. If they reach the agreed metrics, Scott‘s pay goes back to normal, if not, he is out and then the AD promotes the new OC to head coach (prob his long term plan anyway).Sounds like Frost's pay goes back up in 2023 if he reaches this standard. Time to guess on what it means. Go!
Interesting if true !It means Scott took a pay cut to make way for new OC staff. If they reach the agreed metrics, Scott‘s pay goes back to normal, if not, he is out and then the AD promotes the new OC to head coach (prob his long term plan anyway).
I’d like to hear what the metrics are, because it is probably a setup to send Scott packing regardless of what happens.
this is like the slow motion firing and hiring in my opinion, and depending on how it goes, Trev gets to tinker with it.
uh, yeah, thanks . . . "what it means" was referring to "what the metrics are."It means Scott took a pay cut to make way for new OC staff. If they reach the agreed metrics, Scott‘s pay goes back to normal, if not, he is out and then the AD promotes the new OC to head coach (prob his long term plan anyway).
I’d like to hear what the metrics are, because it is probably a setup to send Scott packing regardless of what happens.
this is like the slow motion firing and hiring in my opinion, and depending on how it goes, Trev gets to tinker with it.
There can be a gazillion metrics involved, most of which none of us are going to be privy to.uh, yeah, thanks . . . "what it means" was referring to "what the metrics are."
1st six games: Northwestern, North Dakota, Ga. Southern, Oklahoma, Rutgers, Indiana. The record better be 5-1 min. and 6-0 being Bowl eligible. Last six: Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Purdue, Illinois, Iowa.The key date is Oct. 1st. That would be 6 games and Oct 2nd starts a bye week.
Thus, Frost will have 6 games to prove he should remain as the head coach.
That is why the dates work out that way. Trev is a smart guy and knows what he is doing.
So if the new OC doesn't help reach the agreed metrics then they hire him as HC?It means Scott took a pay cut to make way for new OC staff. If they reach the agreed metrics, Scott‘s pay goes back to normal, if not, he is out and then the AD promotes the new OC to head coach (prob his long term plan anyway).
I’d like to hear what the metrics are, because it is probably a setup to send Scott packing regardless of what happens.
this is like the slow motion firing and hiring in my opinion, and depending on how it goes, Trev gets to tinker with it.
Agree, what a joke.So if the new OC doesn't help reach the agreed metrics then they hire him as HC?
Agreed I would need to see what the metrics to get a better understanding. If it productivity based, why would the new OC help reach the metrics if he was going to take over if the metrics aren't met.
Here is the goal, I want you to help your boss reach that goal, if he doesn't reach that goal, we will promote you to replace him. Now get out there and meet the goals.
Classic!So if the new OC doesn't help reach the agreed metrics then they hire him as HC?
Agreed I would need to see what the metrics to get a better understanding. If it productivity based, why would the new OC help reach the metrics if he was going to take over if the metrics aren't met.
Here is the goal, I want you to help your boss reach that goal, if he doesn't reach that goal, we will promote you to replace him. Now get out there and meet the goals.
I think he has time to evaluate it.. if they don’t meet the metrics but he feels frost is not allowing the OC to do his job, then something like a promotion of the OC is possible.So if the new OC doesn't help reach the agreed metrics then they hire him as HC?
Agreed I would need to see what the metrics to get a better understanding. If it productivity based, why would the new OC help reach the metrics if he was going to take over if the metrics aren't met.
Here is the goal, I want you to help your boss reach that goal, if he doesn't reach that goal, we will promote you to replace him. Now get out there and meet the goals.
So if the new OC doesn't help reach the agreed metrics then they hire him as HC?
Agreed I would need to see what the metrics to get a better understanding. If it productivity based, why would the new OC help reach the metrics if he was going to take over if the metrics aren't met.
Here is the goal, I want you to help your boss reach that goal, if he doesn't reach that goal, we will promote you to replace him. Now get out there and meet the goals.
His buyout is not reduced until Oct 1, 2022. I wonder if the metrics will be evaluated on Oct 2 or end of season.
NU likely won't, but hiring either Tom Herman or Bill O'Brien and those two have proven capable and have been Head Coaches, and will be again at some point.I also think Nikki is way out in left field on this one. We're not getting an OC who is capable of being a HC.
Then why the date of Oct 1, 2022? That just happens to be the day we begin a bye week, after completing 6 games of which only OU is scary. It seems he wants the option to end it early if it’s ugly.People think Trev is coming in and wielding the hammer but he's really not. If he wanted to put a hard edge on things, he'd basically come out and say something to the effect that competing for division titles and being bowl eligible every year is the absolute minimum of performance acceptable out of a program of our caliber and Frost has the chance to demonstrate that under his vision.
The fact that words are being chosen like "mutually agreed" indicates to me that its not simply "9 wins or else" from Trev. Also the fact that any metrics are going to be kept secret basically they can do whatever they want, and make up whatever story they want later, to justify their decision. Whether its to keep Frost or not.
I would expect Trev is going to have a pretty good idea of which direction Frost will go in the first handful of games but he won't actually do any final evaluating until the end of the season, unless the wheels just absolutely come off early and its obvious Frost won't survive another year.
Easy. Here they are:Sounds like Frost's pay goes back up in 2023 if he reaches this standard. Time to guess on what it means. Go!
It should be Chinander. If Alberts snapped a pool cue and threw it between Chinander and Frost like the Joker I wouldn't be upset.So if the new OC doesn't help reach the agreed metrics then they hire him as HC?
Agreed I would need to see what the metrics to get a better understanding. If it productivity based, why would the new OC help reach the metrics if he was going to take over if the metrics aren't met.
Here is the goal, I want you to help your boss reach that goal, if he doesn't reach that goal, we will promote you to replace him. Now get out there and meet the goals.
Then why the date of Oct 1, 2022? That just happens to be the day we begin a bye week, after completing 6 games of which only OU is scary. It seems he wants the option to end it early if it’s ugly.
I'm sure that is TA's way of looking at it. I'm also sure SF is looking at like, I'm going to get this thing turned around and we are going to win 9-10 games next year. It's a win win for both and for many of the fans imo. Obviously if you were a die hard, fire Frost guy then it doesn't satisfy that group. I don't see it as a negative in any way UNLESS there was a big time experienced coach that made it known he wanted to come here and we passed on him. I can live with the risk of another losing season knowing that the outcome is predetermined if that happens.It means Scott took a pay cut to make way for new OC staff. If they reach the agreed metrics, Scott‘s pay goes back to normal, if not, he is out and then the AD promotes the new OC to head coach (prob his long term plan anyway).
I’d like to hear what the metrics are, because it is probably a setup to send Scott packing regardless of what happens.
this is like the slow motion firing and hiring in my opinion, and depending on how it goes, Trev gets to tinker with it.