Might be time to move on from Vann

[myusernamesucks]

We are getting throttled by Fordham in an elimination game.

 

[eckie1]

I agree....

We are getting throttled by Fordham in an elimination game.

The rebs somehow being relevant in softball after being the worst program by far since their inception can't help her cause. She made improvement from last year. But, in 2016 we were in the top 25 in our conference opener and proceeded to win 2 or 3 games the rest of the way. It was pathetic.

Loaferzzz fired Jay Miller and didn't really upgrade. I hope that the IB will make the right call when the time comes and work his magic.

 

[civildawg88]

I bet Bama is glad their coach changed his mind the last second.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

I'm thinking that, once again, Bama knew what they were passing on and we went for it anyway.

 

[wtw2400]

I'm thinking that, once again, Bama knew what they were passing on and we went for it anyway.

That's a % inaccurate assessment. And really you care about softball only because Ole Miss is good at it? That probably means you haven't paid attention much to the program.

I don't think firing her after making all of these NCAA Tourney Appearences would be smart for us. We haven't won a SEC Tourney Game since 2005 and have never made a Super Regional.

But having a former baseball coach calling the shots wouldn't be bad if we needed to hire a replacement.

 

[dickiedawg]

Every SEC team made a regional this year. Let's not pretend it's some huge accomplishment.

 

[HaleStater]

That's a % inaccurate assessment. And really you care about softball only because Ole Miss is good at it? That probably means you haven't paid attention much to the program.

I don't think firing her after making all of these NCAA Tourney Appearences would be smart for us. We haven't won a SEC Tourney Game since 2005 and have never made a Super Regional.

But having a former baseball coach calling the shots wouldn't be bad if we needed to hire a replacement.

You have PTSD or Post Traumatic Stansbury syndrome. She's not the best we can do. Neither was he.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Vann has Hevesy syndrome..she doesn't like to recruit and gets most of her recruits off one travel ball team...if there is any recruiting work to be done Tyler Bratton does it... she has a class coming in that some have as highly ranked, but there is all sorts of asterisk on this class....Smith at Ole Miss is a very good and respected coach.... Vann dances and makes "I heart u" signs from the 3rd base coaching box....

 

[QuaoarsKing]

The state of Mississippi is almost completely devoid of SEC-quality softball talent. Jay Miller, a coach who was so good that he was chosen to coach the US National team, couldn't win here. Vann was really highly regarded when she got here too.

So they have to rely mostly on out-of-state recruiting, and until Nusz Park opened last year, we had among the worst facilities in the SEC, playing in rural city that's hard to sell to out-of-staters.

Despite the huge recruiting handicaps, Miller did a decent job here, 6 Regionals in 9 years, and now Stuedeman has had us in 5 Regionals in 6 years. Considering our history and how the deck is stacked against us, she has a decent record too:

Season	Team	Overall	Conference	Standing	Postseason
Mississippi State (Southeastern Conference) <small style="font-size: 10.2552px;">(2012–present)</small>
2012	Mississippi State	33–24	12–16	7th	NCAA Regional (0–2)
2013	Mississippi State	32–24	8–16	10th	NCAA Regional (1–2)
2014	Mississippi State	39–21	10–14	10th	NCAA Regional (1–2)
2015	Mississippi State	36–21	10–14	9th	NCAA Regional (1–2)
2016	Mississippi State	26–31	3–21	12th
2017	Mississippi State	36–22	10–14	8th	NCAA Regional (0–2)
Mississippi State:	202–143 (.586)	53–85 (.384)
Total:	202–143 (.586)

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Even in 2016, our RPI was in the 30s and we would have made the NCAA Tournament if we'd had a .500 record.

Since the new stadium opened, our recruiting has ticked up some, so we'll probably improve over the next few years.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

Eh, she's trying to build a program, and is making consistent regionals, and is beating some good teams here and there. As long as she does that, I'm alright with her. I thought she'd be better this year. But until she misses the postseason two years in a row, can't really break out the FAHR HER ***! cheers just yet.

 

[dawgphd]

To those in the Softball coaching know....

Where do we go for the next coach?

Is Bratton even a credible replacement?

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

We can definitely afford a top tier coach...Bratton has been our hitting coach, which is our weakest part of the game..

 

[HaleStater]

You go out and find the softball coach version of Vic Schaefer. Make it happen Cohen.

 

[Paperdog]

Samantha Ricketts is the hitting instructor ... Bratton works with the defense

http://cdispatch.com/sports/article.asp?aid=41226

We can definitely afford a top tier coach...Bratton has been our hitting coach, which is our weakest part of the game..

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

http://cdispatch.com/sports/article.asp?aid=41226[/QUOTE
Bratton also helped freshman Katie Anne Bailey become one of MSU’s most reliable hitters in key situations. She drove in the game-winning run against No. 8 Kentucky with a pinch-hit walk-off single to give Mississippi State its first SEC win of the campaign and plated the winner against No. 3 Alabama with a sacrifice fly in the bottom of the 10th inning.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Girls coach sports?

If you have to have anybody coaching girls in anything besides cooking, cleaning, and birthing children, it's better to have a man do it.

By their very nature, girls are cooperative while Men are Competitive. Vic Schafer led The Mississippi State Girls basketball team to a victory over those Dudes from Connecticut and almost won a National Championship.

In the meantime, our teams coached by girls (volleyball, Communist Kickball, softball) suck Big Mangoes. I think it's because of the Cooperative nature of girls to feel a sisterhood with the girls on the other team, thus they never develop the killer Instinct needed to win at the Division I level.

 

[kired]

Hold on... you mean there are legitimate college softball recruiting rankings somewhere? Someone has to be really dedicated to keep up with something like that.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Hold on... you mean there are legitimate college softball recruiting rankings somewhere? Someone has to be really dedicated to keep up with something like that.

Outside Mississippi/Louisiana people say the same thing about college baseball recruiting rankings.

 

[MaroonNation]

That's a % inaccurate assessment. And really you care about softball only because Ole Miss is good at it? That probably means you haven't paid attention much to the program..

To be fair softball is a pretty intolerable sport for anyone who doesn't have a daughter playing it. But since it has my alma mater on the jersey I want them to do good.

 

[Shamoan]

My only real beef with her is that she seems kind of unprofessional. Doesn't seem to have a filter and wears her emotions loudly on her sleeve. That's probably not atypical for softball coaches, just my obsession. Give her another year and see what she can do. We accomplished some team firsts this season...taking a series win from a ranked opponent (#18 U.K.) being one.

 

[Go Budaw]

Every SEC team made a regional this year. Let's not pretend it's some huge accomplishment.

I admittedly give very few 17's about softball so forgive the ignorant question, but is this for real? The entire 14-team SEC made the field of 64?

 

[Hoover Dawg]

I like that in an MSU coach, especially for a non-historically good sport like softball. Guess who else does the exact same thing.....

 

[eckie1]

Vandy doesn't field a team....

I admittedly give very few 17's about softball so forgive the ignorant question, but is this for real? The entire 14-team SEC made the field of 64?

But, yes, all 13 teams made it.

 

[fader2103]

Actually Vann loves recruiting and she's great at it. MSU signed the 4th ranked recruiting class in softball this year. This isn't to say I'm not against moving on.

 

[patdog]

5 regionals in 7 years and a big recruiting class coming in. Last thing we need to do is fire the coach.

 

[Shamoan]

Emotions on sleeve or unprofessional part?

 

[BiscuitEater]

Slight highjack ..

I bet Bama is glad their coach changed his mind the last second.

So .. how long before Ninja is looking for a new baseball HC. He has some leverage because Bill Battle hired Goff. Think He will get another year BUT another 5 win SEC season may be his last.

"After opening a rebuilt Sewell-Thomas Stadium this past season, Alabama athletics director Bill Battle said the school was prepared to invest in a top coaching staff."

 

[Bully75]

Just have her stop with all the dancing when we are getting our butts beaten off................Geez!