Marcus Freeman Notre Dame

NebChicago

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Tommy Rees already said he’s staying so doesn’t that kinda mean it’s Freeman’s job?
 

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TheHuskerFreak

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Wow crazy they wouldnt get fickell. Id always go for the Proven commodity. I suppose this will prevent a mass exodus along with keep their recruiting class.
 

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From a recruiting and defensive standpoint, this is an outstanding hire.
 
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Leading candidate right now to take over for Brian Kelly . Pretty sure he is the son of Morgan Freeman.
Notre Dame is cheap, they paid Kelly a $2.5 million salary but allowed Kelly to receive compensation from other sources like shoe companies. So Kelly got a cut of Notre Dames deal with Under Armour. Interesting strategy.

Notre Dame thinks they will win just because they are Notre Dame, they won't have to pay Freeman as much as this is his first HC job. Not sure if Morgan gets a cut of the new shoe contract in two years or if it's just Marcus.
 

leodisflowers

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Oh I wonder what him and Jimmy Lake have in COMMON. Hmmm...oh maybe they have the same skin color right bigot??
Hate to say it, but that plays a big part these days. Freeman could be a stud, but this is Notre Dame. They have their own damn network and can basically do whatever they want. If I'm a Notre Dame fan, I'd be ****** pissed because they could probably name their coach of who is out there instead of taking a risk on Freeman.
 

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Hate to say it, but that plays a big part these days. Freeman could be a stud, but this is Notre Dame. They have their own damn network and can basically do whatever they want. If I'm a Notre Dame fan, I'd be ****in pissed because they could probably name their coach of who is out there instead of taking a risk on Freeman.
Yes I know there are a bunch of bigoted cunts on here. Thing is don't make it too obvious that you are a bigot.

I mean you could have listed Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley, Dabo Swinney, TOM OSBORNE or the numerous other WHITE assistant coaches who became head coach of their teams. Yet the bigots single out the black ones.

Then you say Notre Dame should be PISSED! You are assuming Notre Dame fans are as RACIST as Nebraska fans and that's rather presumptuous of you......
 

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Hate to say it, but that plays a big part these days. Freeman could be a stud, but this is Notre Dame. They have their own damn network and can basically do whatever they want. If I'm a Notre Dame fan, I'd be ****in pissed because they could probably name their coach of who is out there instead of taking a risk on Freeman.
Freeman is a stud. It's a great hire.
 

leodisflowers

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Yes I know there are a bunch of bigoted ***** on here. Thing is don't make it too obvious that you are a bigot.

I mean you could have listed Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley, Dabo Swinney, TOM OSBORNE or the numerous other WHITE assistant coaches who became head coach of their teams. Yet the bigots single out the black ones.

Then you say Notre Dame should be PISSED! You are assuming Notre Dame fans are as RACIST as Nebraska fans and that's rather presumptuous of you......
Whatever man. Just calling a spade a spade and has nothing to do with bigotry. Notre Dame should not be hiring Freeman, huge risk.
 

leodisflowers

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Freeman is a stud. It's a great hire.
Ok? Since Freeman has so much head coaching experience? Like I said, this is Notre Dame. They can pick who they want and are taking a huge *** risk with Freeman. If this is Purdue or hell even Nebraska right now it might make a little more sense, but literally pick about anyone and you go with Freeman. I'm not saying he won't be unsuccessful, but I would have gone with about 10 other people before I got to his name.
 

leodisflowers

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Poor choice of words there at best.
Stay woke bro. Should I use the term that the Greek's used then? Ok lets say let's call a fig a fig. Happy. Jesus....

"To call a spade a spade" entered the English language when Nicholas Udall translated Erasmus in 1542. Famous authors who have used it in their works include Charles Dickens and W. Somerset Maugham, among others

Yes, I looked this up just to show how stupid the world is getting.
 

NebChicago

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Ok? Since Freeman has so much head coaching experience? Like I said, this is Notre Dame. They can pick who they want and are taking a huge *** risk with Freeman. If this is Purdue or hell even Nebraska right now it might make a little more sense, but literally pick about anyone and you go with Freeman. I'm not saying he won't be unsuccessful, but I would have gone with about 10 other people before I got to his name.
Sounds like they are looking for continuity and maybe they view it as addition by subtraction since Kelly is a bit of an Ahole.
If they keep Rees as OC and Freeman’s D…. They can continue to coast to CFPs to get slaughtered
 

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Ok? Since Freeman has so much head coaching experience? Like I said, this is Notre Dame. They can pick who they want and are taking a huge *** risk with Freeman. If this is Purdue or hell even Nebraska right now it might make a little more sense, but literally pick about anyone and you go with Freeman. I'm not saying he won't be unsuccessful, but I would have gone with about 10 other people before I got to his name.
If they can get who they want? Why did Kelly leave and why did fickell turn them down? There are at least 10 better jobs than ND based of amenities and pay. If Purdue and Nebraska were willing to pay 8 mil for a coach, which Purdue might need to to keep Brohm long term, and have invest the money to compete recruiting wise, they'd be just as good of jobs. The advantages ND had 30 years ago aren't advantages today. Please note I am not saying Purdue is as good of a job as ND. It's a long ways from it. If they win 8-9 next year and continue to invest, maybe get the 100 mil stadium project going, it would be able to compete with ND on high level recruits.

Freeman will up recruiting significantly for ND though.
 

phoenix4nu

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Stay woke bro. Should I use the term that the Greek's used then? Ok lets say let's call a fig a fig. Happy. Jesus....

"To call a spade a spade" entered the English language when Nicholas Udall translated Erasmus in 1542. Famous authors who have used it in their works include Charles Dickens and W. Somerset Maugham, among others

Yes, I looked this up just to show how stupid the world is getting.
Context is important. In the context of your post, it was a poor choice of words.
 

Redscarlet

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If they can get who they want? Why did Kelly leave and why did fickell turn them down? There are at least 10 better jobs than ND based of amenities and pay. If Purdue and Nebraska were willing to pay 8 mil for a coach, which Purdue might need to to keep Brohm long term, and have invest the money to compete recruiting wise, they'd be just as good of jobs. The advantages ND had 30 years ago aren't advantages today.

Freeman will up recruiting significantly for ND though.
Do you know for a fact that Fickell turned down ND?

I know he would be in a tough predicament with his team one win away from the playoffs…
 

leodisflowers

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If they can get who they want? Why did Kelly leave and why did fickell turn them down? There are at least 10 better jobs than ND based of amenities and pay. If Purdue and Nebraska were willing to pay 8 mil for a coach, which Purdue might need to to keep Brohm long term, and have invest the money to compete recruiting wise, they'd be just as good of jobs. The advantages ND had 30 years ago aren't advantages today.

Freeman will up recruiting significantly for ND though.
Kelly left because LSU will do anything to win and the talent is fertile as hell down there and did Fickell really turn them down? Yes, there are challenges at ND, but it is still a very prestigious school and I doubt there are 10 better jobs. There is money there galore and ND still has a ton of advantages. Freeman may be a good recruiter but that's only part of the puzzle. There's a lot that goes into being a head coach and he isn't proven. I stick with my point of ND could probably go get pretty much anyone they wanted and definitely a more seasoned hire.
 

dinglefritz

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Wow crazy they wouldnt get fickell. Id always go for the Proven commodity. I suppose this will prevent a mass exodus along with keep their recruiting class.
IMO Fickell is VASTLY over rated. He caught lightening in a bottle this year. I doubt he'll ever do it again.
 

dinglefritz

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Do you know for a fact that Fickell turned down ND?

I know he would be in a tough predicament with his team one win away from the playoffs…
Notre Dame was paying Kelly 2.5 million. Fickell is making 3.4 million at Cinci with a whole bunch less pressure....
 

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It's possible that ND doesn't want to wait for Cinci's season to play out and risk losing both Fickell and Freeman in the process. I would be.
 

dinglefritz

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It's possible that ND doesn't want to wait for Cinci's season to play out and risk losing both Fickell and Freeman in the process. I would be.
Again. Notre Dame was paying Kelly 2.5 million. Fickell is already making 3.4 million with a long guaranteed contract. No way he would leave Cinci for Notre Dame. Fickell would have needed at least 5 million for 7 years at a minimum IMO to leave Cinci and even then they might have matched that.
 

BoilerN

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Do you know for a fact that Fickell turned down ND?

I know he would be in a tough predicament with his team one win away from the playoffs…
He stated it publicly and I'd say he probably did. Why would he leave? He's about to have a better shot at the playoffs through the big 12 then at ND.
 

gw2kpro

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Again. Notre Dame was paying Kelly 2.5 million. Fickell is already making 3.4 million with a long guaranteed contract. No way he would leave Cinci for Notre Dame. Fickell would have needed at least 5 million for 7 years at a minimum IMO to leave Cinci and even then they might have matched that.
That's a good point. However, Kelly's total annual compensation at ND was way over 2.5 million.
 

BoilerN

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It's possible that ND doesn't want to wait for Cinci's season to play out and risk losing both Fickell and Freeman in the process. I would be.
Kelly had already told Freeman he'd make him the highest paid DC and had offered ND OC as well.
 

Harry Caray

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IMO Fickell is VASTLY over rated. He caught lightening in a bottle this year. I doubt he'll ever do it again.

I agree, Fickell went 6-7 as the interim coach at Ohio State. Their only losing season since 1988. He was lucky to beat Tulsa and Navy this year. Remember that Frost also went 12-0 in the AAC Conference, so it doesn't mean Fickell is ready for a big-time coaching job. He's certainly not worth $7 million/year.
 

dinglefritz

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That's a good point. However, Kelly's total annual compensation at ND was way over 2.5 million.
Every school has the side benefits like camps and endorsements. Notre Dame's side deals are no doubt better than Cinci's but there is virtually no pressure at Cinci. He's got a job for life there if he can keep it at 8 wins or above and he knows it.