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<blockquote data-quote="The Bell Tolls for Thee" data-source="post: 129520954" data-attributes="member: 1812660"><p>Not really. Most posters on here do want WVU to prosper, they just don't see it coming from this current head coach. Your opinion may be that this is a pretty decent coaching staff that will eventually be able to compete for a Big XII championship, however I'd argue that Dana has not given much reason to think big things are in store for WVU. Not saying it can't happen, just saying that it is unlikely. For every Bill Belichick type coach (didn't do great and was ousted from Cleveland before his Patriots gig), there are at least 10 Wannstedts who suck no matter how much experience or resources are given to them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First, I don't think this recruiting argument is a big a factor as many make it out to be. Sure it has an effect, but just smiling and acting like everything is okay when ticket sales are down and fans are grumbling is not going to go unnoticed by recruits. Recruits, or at least the opposing coaches, will make these kids aware that DH has 4 not so impressive seasons under his belt and he'll either get the boot if things don't improve or the kid will be going to a perpetual "also ran" team. Second, even if it were true, some of us would argue that DH's track record is more likely to have WVU continue to be a 6-7 regular season win team than ascend to a higher level and therefore would rather take the lumps now than spend 3 years confirming DH isn't able to get over the hump.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Would you rather languish for 3-4 years now in hopes of building a better future or do it 3 years from now if Dana proves he cannot do much better than the last 4 seasons? I mentioned this above, but some of us believe that Dana will never, or too rarely at best, take WVU to prosperity and it is not a baseless opinion. Also, a good HC would not have us languishing for "a number of year", it'd be 2-4 with reasons for optimism sprinkled in along the way (like Nehlen and RRod did).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No one is saying that firing your current HC will make great, proven coaches come knocking down your door. Someone had to give Urban Meyer his first shot when he was upcoming. Brian Kelly as well. Maybe the argument is that if a big, proven commodity can be lured here then great ... but if not, an unknown risk is better than just staying in the current rut you don't want to be in.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is just your subjective opinion. I don't see how what Lyons is doing is negative. Lyons is discussing an extension with the current head coach. A head coach that does not have a spectacular resume. Negotiations were halted because the two parties could not come to terms. Are you suggesting that a "good" AD would just hand an even more lucrative contract to a coach that both the AD and at least half the fan base is not confident in to be a long term solution?</p><p></p><p>I understand that you think the current coaching staff has what it takes to get WVU to a better place than it has been over the last 4 seasons. Just the tone of your post seems like you think this opinion is so incredibly obvious that the only one's to disagree must not want prosperity. No, they just haven't seen enough from the last 4 seasons to instill confidence that your "pretty decent" coaching staff will ever make WVU more than a every generation flash in the pan.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Bell Tolls for Thee, post: 129520954, member: 1812660"] Not really. Most posters on here do want WVU to prosper, they just don't see it coming from this current head coach. Your opinion may be that this is a pretty decent coaching staff that will eventually be able to compete for a Big XII championship, however I'd argue that Dana has not given much reason to think big things are in store for WVU. Not saying it can't happen, just saying that it is unlikely. For every Bill Belichick type coach (didn't do great and was ousted from Cleveland before his Patriots gig), there are at least 10 Wannstedts who suck no matter how much experience or resources are given to them. First, I don't think this recruiting argument is a big a factor as many make it out to be. Sure it has an effect, but just smiling and acting like everything is okay when ticket sales are down and fans are grumbling is not going to go unnoticed by recruits. Recruits, or at least the opposing coaches, will make these kids aware that DH has 4 not so impressive seasons under his belt and he'll either get the boot if things don't improve or the kid will be going to a perpetual "also ran" team. Second, even if it were true, some of us would argue that DH's track record is more likely to have WVU continue to be a 6-7 regular season win team than ascend to a higher level and therefore would rather take the lumps now than spend 3 years confirming DH isn't able to get over the hump. Would you rather languish for 3-4 years now in hopes of building a better future or do it 3 years from now if Dana proves he cannot do much better than the last 4 seasons? I mentioned this above, but some of us believe that Dana will never, or too rarely at best, take WVU to prosperity and it is not a baseless opinion. Also, a good HC would not have us languishing for "a number of year", it'd be 2-4 with reasons for optimism sprinkled in along the way (like Nehlen and RRod did). No one is saying that firing your current HC will make great, proven coaches come knocking down your door. Someone had to give Urban Meyer his first shot when he was upcoming. Brian Kelly as well. Maybe the argument is that if a big, proven commodity can be lured here then great ... but if not, an unknown risk is better than just staying in the current rut you don't want to be in. This is just your subjective opinion. I don't see how what Lyons is doing is negative. Lyons is discussing an extension with the current head coach. A head coach that does not have a spectacular resume. Negotiations were halted because the two parties could not come to terms. Are you suggesting that a "good" AD would just hand an even more lucrative contract to a coach that both the AD and at least half the fan base is not confident in to be a long term solution? I understand that you think the current coaching staff has what it takes to get WVU to a better place than it has been over the last 4 seasons. Just the tone of your post seems like you think this opinion is so incredibly obvious that the only one's to disagree must not want prosperity. No, they just haven't seen enough from the last 4 seasons to instill confidence that your "pretty decent" coaching staff will ever make WVU more than a every generation flash in the pan. [/QUOTE]
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