Looks like the rebs lost another defensive

coach66

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Starter FS to the portal today. A couple of more hits and Kiffins trolling on making the other teams actually punt this year might not age well.
 

Mobile Bay

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I am sure a player from a defense of that caliber will be welcome at Akron or LA-Monroe.
 

11thEagleFan

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Funny quote from Will Hall the other day, “Yeah I was looking at the transfer portal the other day and it seems like there are 5,000 players in there. I figured out pretty quick that 4,980 of them are in there because they can’t play.”
 

GloryDawg

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Did I hear right that there are 5K guys in the portal? That has to include other sports. Right?
 

coach66

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Well, it looks like they lost another secondary

Starter yesterday as well. The Spirit says this is all addition through subtraction since the new recruits have pushed these guys out.
 

HumpDawgy

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The Lane Train fanbase better enjoy some 56-52 type games this year. They might win an arena league championship.
 

Seinfeld

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It would have to, but whatever the case, I’m afraid that a ton of these kids are going to find out that they just took a trip through the portal to a life outside of football and possibly college too. It’s amazing how much downright awful advice some of them get
 

CochiseCowbell

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maroonmadman

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Starter yesterday as well. The Spirit says this is all addition through subtraction since the new recruits have pushed these guys out.

That doesn't say anything real positive about their starters if they are getting pushed out by new recruits.
 

FreeDawg

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OM has been one of the worst defenses in football the last 3 years. They’ve lost several key defensive players. They will be horrid on defense again. Their schedule is set up perfect for 8 wins but I’m not sure Corrall can pull that off with nobody on the other side of the ball. Corrall is the difference in 4 wins and potentially 8. If they have any injuries on defense it could end up being the worst OM defense the last decade and that’s a pretty remarkable possibility.
 

oxfordrebel22

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The Lane Train fanbase better enjoy some 56-52 type games this year. They might win an arena league championship.

Haynes leaving certainly didn’t impact that. We may still give up 50+ but we damn sure would’ve with him on the field. As you all know, all transfers aren’t equal. He sucked, to be candid.
 

oxfordrebel22

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OM has been one of the worst defenses in football the last 3 years. They’ve lost several key defensive players. They will be horrid on defense again. Their schedule is set up perfect for 8 wins but I’m not sure Corrall can pull that off with nobody on the other side of the ball. Corrall is the difference in 4 wins and potentially 8. If they have any injuries on defense it could end up being the worst OM defense the last decade and that’s a pretty remarkable possibility.

No doubt our defense has been horrid. So the players leaving on the defense that was horrid isn’t that big a deal, right? If they suck, they suck. Hopefully the new recruits will be an improvement, but they won’t be worse. We signed 9 DB’s last year, so obviously the staff saw a massive talent issue…
 

Drebin

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No doubt our defense has been horrid. So the players leaving on the defense that was horrid isn’t that big a deal, right? If they suck, they suck. Hopefully the new recruits will be an improvement, but they won’t be worse. We signed 9 DB’s last year, so obviously the staff saw a massive talent issue…

That's not at all how it works. You're not going to bring in new guys to be instantly better than your second leading tackler. Ole Miss may improve defensively as the year progresses, but they are going to be worse than last year.
 

oxfordrebel22

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That's not at all how it works. You're not going to bring in new guys to be instantly better than your second leading tackler. Ole Miss may improve defensively as the year progresses, but they are going to be worse than last year.

It’s absolutely how it works when your defense is 129th out of 130. That means you inherited a ton of non-SEC caliber players on defense. The numbers clearly bare that out across multiple years. So rolling over non-SEC players because their experience isn’t going to make you better. You recruit and insert players you think are more talented, because at the end of the day, you better have defenders that can run with other SEC players. Experience or not.

Now, maybe the mis-evaluated some guys. That’s certainly possible, especially given COVID limitations. But they didn’t sign 9 DB’s because they thought guys like Jon Haynes were good players. Do you really think he left after the NCAA deadline to transfer freely just because he didn’t want to be here? Wouldn’t he have already been gone? Odds are he left because as the new guys come in and get reps, work out, etc. he realized not only was he not going to start, he likely wasn’t going to play at all.

Again, we may very well be bad defensively. It’s a safe bet we will be. But it won’t be because of Jon Haynes leaving. To be honest, him leaving actually gives me a little hope for improvement. Because an SEC defense that plays Jon Haynes significant snaps is going to SUCCCCCCKKKKKKK.
 

Drebin

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It’s absolutely how it works when your defense is 129th out of 130. That means you inherited a ton of non-SEC caliber players on defense. The numbers clearly bare that out across multiple years. So rolling over non-SEC players because their experience isn’t going to make you better. You recruit and insert players you think are more talented, because at the end of the day, you better have defenders that can run with other SEC players. Experience or not.

Now, maybe the mis-evaluated some guys. That’s certainly possible, especially given COVID limitations. But they didn’t sign 9 DB’s because they thought guys like Jon Haynes were good players. Do you really think he left after the NCAA deadline to transfer freely just because he didn’t want to be here? Wouldn’t he have already been gone? Odds are he left because as the new guys come in and get reps, work out, etc. he realized not only was he not going to start, he likely wasn’t going to play at all.

Again, we may very well be bad defensively. It’s a safe bet we will be. But it won’t be because of Jon Haynes leaving. To be honest, him leaving actually gives me a little hope for improvement. Because an SEC defense that plays Jon Haynes significant snaps is going to SUCCCCCCKKKKKKK.


The point here is that the couple of players you did have that were worth keeping have left the program.

It's very Spirit-ish to respond to transfers with "the new guys coming in are better." Newsflash: they probably aren't. They have to be in the system, get in the weight room, and all that stuff. A year from now, they might be better than what you had. This year? Nah. That's not how it works.

I speak from experience. I'm a Mississippi State fan. I've seen a lot of bad football.
 

tatedog

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These guys know that West Lafayette IN doesn't have a square or City Grocery right?
 
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The point here is that the couple of players you did have that were worth keeping have left the program.

It's very Spirit-ish to respond to transfers with "the new guys coming in are better." Newsflash: they probably aren't. They have to be in the system, get in the weight room, and all that stuff. A year from now, they might be better than what you had. This year? Nah. That's not how it works.

I speak from experience. I'm a Mississippi State fan. I've seen a lot of bad football.

Pretty sure their MLB transferred because of the portal guy from Maryland coming in and taking his spot. The secondary guys are all freshmen that would be taking spots (to my knowledge) so you may be correct there. I’m not familiar enough with their team to know.
 

FreeDawg

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The last few years I’ve expected a much better defense based solely on the fact that it can’t be worse. So we basically have the same thought. That said, I keep getting that wrong. Last year being Nix bad was shocking to me with this staff. But as they say, it’s Jimmy’s and Joe’s
 
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We’ve been hearing “they will be better on defense because they can’t be any worse on defense” since before Trump was elected president. Which incidentally was the last time OM actually had a winning season in football. So forgive me if I need to actually see it before taking the OM fan base media talking points as gospel.

OM may not be the worst defense in the P5 again, but they will be closer to that than an average defense.
 

FreeDawg

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That’s the thing. This will be the least talented and least experienced bunch they’ve had yet. They absolutely can be worse. I keep thinking they can’t possibly be worse but they keep proving me wrong.
 
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