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<blockquote data-quote="The Bell Tolls for Thee" data-source="post: 132083878" data-attributes="member: 1812660">So let's say moving to the Big 12 is not an option for ACC teams when at the very least 4 schools (Clemson, UNC, UVA, and FSU or Miami) are taken from the ACC?&nbsp; What does &quot;blowing it up and starting from scratch&quot; look like?&nbsp; Going independent?&nbsp; If not, cobbling together what's left for a new conference looks an awful like like just adding whatever you can to the ACC leftovers.Now let's say joining the Big 12 is an option.&nbsp; Which would you rather be?&nbsp; The new programs to a middling conference or the established old guard at a conference in the same middling level where most of the members have similar interests to your program?&nbsp; Any program would be a fool to not desire that, if you cannot be in the Big 10 or SEC, that you are least the old boys in the most stable 2nd tier conference.&nbsp; Moot point now, but doesn't change that the schools voting in the ACC were arrogantly foolish turning up their noses at programs like WVU.&nbsp; At least the ones that will not be in the Big 10 or SEC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Bell Tolls for Thee, post: 132083878, member: 1812660"] So let's say moving to the Big 12 is not an option for ACC teams when at the very least 4 schools (Clemson, UNC, UVA, and FSU or Miami) are taken from the ACC? What does "blowing it up and starting from scratch" look like? Going independent? If not, cobbling together what's left for a new conference looks an awful like like just adding whatever you can to the ACC leftovers. Now let's say joining the Big 12 is an option. Which would you rather be? The new programs to a middling conference or the established old guard at a conference in the same middling level where most of the members have similar interests to your program? Any program would be a fool to not desire that, if you cannot be in the Big 10 or SEC, that you are least the old boys in the most stable 2nd tier conference. Moot point now, but doesn't change that the schools voting in the ACC were arrogantly foolish turning up their noses at programs like WVU. At least the ones that will not be in the Big 10 or SEC [/QUOTE]

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