Let me get this straight
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Give me break. The point is still the same. Congrats you named 3. Obivously
you're happy wiht our team and program and I'm not. so be happy.
you're happy wiht our team and program and I'm not. so be happy.
Those are pathetic if those are your three best wins.
You do realize that UGA went 6-7 and lost to UCF in the Liberty bowl in 2010? That says it all right there. Our third best win is against a team with a losing record.
Our second best win is against an 8-5 team that lost to every single ranked team it played that season.
Our best win is against 17ing Houston Nutt and Ole Miss!?!?! Wow.
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Dan Mullen Era!
Well why don't you let the season play out before complaining after a win that puts us at 3-3 on the season with losses to teams with a combined 3 losses? Everyone expected us to struggle this year based on our schedule and our new secondary. We have struggled, and now everyone wants the coaches fired? For doing what was expected? We have a legit chance at 8+ wins next year based on what Dan has built, and people want to fire him after 3 straight winning seasons? What in the world is wrong with y'all?
We are paying this *** clown $3,000,000+ to be as mediocre as he is and to laugh and make excuses in post game interviews. He doesn't take any of this seriously. If he was the CEO of a corporation then his stock would be absolute ****. The SEC is a multi billion dollar industry and we have to have someone better than this jerk to even keep up with the Vandy and Kentuckys of the league. It becomes an issue that we cannot afford to keep mediocre coaches in the league.
BRAVO...I wish I'd thought of this, but I was too busty getting zinged by BK145
and Desoto dog becuase they thought of 3.
and Desoto dog becuase they thought of 3.
We did that with LSU this year. It was a 5 point game at the end of 3 quarters, and we outscored them in the 3rd quarter. We had two turnovers in the fourth quarter that led directly to touchdowns for them that made that game look a lot worse than it actually was. We have played Auburn close every single year we since Dan has been here. We had South Carolina on the ropes a few years back. We dominated Ole Miss for three years until last year. We have not lost to an inferior team during Dan's entire tenure.
But sure, focus on our three blowout losses to LSU, Bama (the national champions), A&M (who beat the national champions) last year. I'll give you the Okie State game. We went into that game with a terrible offensive plan, and it was hard to watch, granted we absolutely shut down their passing and a starting quarterback was concussed.
Speaking of Ole Miss. Last year they had a new coach and a new fire. They built on that. But guess what, they are 3-3 with a shutout loss to Bama (Dan has never been shutout), a loss to Auburn (the same team people are giving Dan hell about for losing to), and a close loss to A&M. People bash Dan for playing close against good teams but not sealing the deal, and then you are hear praising Freeze for doing THE EXACT SAME THING.
But sure, focus on our three blowout losses to LSU, Bama (the national champions), A&M (who beat the national champions) last year. I'll give you the Okie State game. We went into that game with a terrible offensive plan, and it was hard to watch, granted we absolutely shut down their passing and a starting quarterback was concussed.
Speaking of Ole Miss. Last year they had a new coach and a new fire. They built on that. But guess what, they are 3-3 with a shutout loss to Bama (Dan has never been shutout), a loss to Auburn (the same team people are giving Dan hell about for losing to), and a close loss to A&M. People bash Dan for playing close against good teams but not sealing the deal, and then you are hear praising Freeze for doing THE EXACT SAME THING.
And who are our worst losses? My gosh people are mad at Dan for not upsetting people. They are called upsets because the lesser team beats the better team. So your justification to fire a coach is because he is beating teams he is supposed to, and losing to teams that are supposed to beat him? That makes total sense. But then we have a schedule set up next year that could lead to 8,9, maybe even 10 wins, and people are trying to discount that. You guys are really logical on this one.
Dan Mullen is the epitome of mediocrity. He will beat the teams he is supposed to and never beat anyone that is any good. In years where the schedule is easy, like last year, he'll win 7 or 8 games. In years where the schedule is tougher, like this year, he'll struggle to win 5 or 6. Lots of our fans are perfectly happy with mediocrity. Winning 6 games and going to the Birmingham Bowl is a great season for them. Dan Mullen is their perfect coach. I would prefer to shoot a little higher. I think we can be better than mediocre. We should at least be able to knock off a team that is equal to or better than us occasionally.
So winning 4+ SEC games is just common these days. Croom and Sherril, and well every single other SEC coach in our history did that all the time. People wouldn't be excited about next year if they weren't excited about the players that we have coming back (guess who recruited those guys?)
hmmm.. I am struggling to find a successful football program who has or had that opportunity or need. Unless their overall historical record is a losing one, like, say...ohh....Mississippi State, most teams who have their best coach in school history, have had him for a pretty long spell or he replaced a good one who got a better job.
We go from not going to a bowl but 1 time in 10 years to going to 3 straight bowl games. You are dang right I am happy with that. I'm not going to freak out about one rough year unlike some people who have gotten spoiled thanks to Mullen changing the mentality. Obviously I'm not happy with the way this year has gone so far, but Mullen has earned this year and next year. If next year is a failure, he is gone. Simple as that. There is absolutely no way that Mullen should be fired this year (barring 0-8).
I see your point, but at the same time you are basing everything off of record. By your logic, we could win 6 games and they all be one point wins over high school teams and you would be high fiving n ****. You still have to use your eyes to evaluate things.
im not saying we should fire Mullen, but I am someone that believes a coach shouldn't automatically get to **** the bed two years straight and force a rebuild situation before being shown the door. For instance, if we don't go bowling this year, Mullen should have to do more than just win 6 games next year to keep his job. Why? Because our schedule is so easy next year that I could coach us to 6 wins. So do we just keep basing it off record alone and allow Mullen to stay forever if he squeaks out 6 wins against a **** schedule?
that is the question. And if you say "yes, I'm fine with that", then you damn well better be in the camp of Stricklin not scheduling anymore Oklahoma State games. Because unless we are going to try and progress the program once we get to this plateau point, we need to at least keep guaranteeing bowl games....and Oklahoma State (and almost Bowling Green) won't help us get to bowls.
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So Freeze going toe to toe with good teams in year two proves what? Kinda ironic that you refer to him in a thread saying we haven't done anything since 09/10. Fire Mullen, easy schedule next year and the new coach is a hero, until reality sets in and we have 3 losing seasons in a row. Everybody will then be bitching and wishing we could win 8.
At a place like State you build a good program in steps. We are not going fire Mullen after he has stepped up the program to a yearly bowl contender and get a big proven head coach. You will have to roll the dice and your odds are not great when you do that. He is young and this is his first head coaching job. He is also the most successful coach we have had in 60+ years. Let that sink in. Give him this year and next before you roll the dice on another unknown or has been.
Unless the administration and fans have the balls to hire Bobby Patrino then let's build off of a few years of continuous bowl games then take the next step.
No, we scored 3 points against LSU in the second half. They had the ball going into the 4th and immediately scored to go up 10 the very first play in the 4th quarter. We still made no adjustments in that game AT ALL in the second half. Beckham Jr. continued to run free up and down the sidelines, just like he did the entire game. We'd "pressure" Mettenburger just so he could get the ball to Beckham that much faster for 20 yard gain after 20 yard gain. So I don't count that as a game where we "went toe to toe with the best in our league for 60 minutes" because that game was over after that touchdown drive to end the first half (also, we've given up a TD in under 2 minutes to end a half in 3 different games this season).
2 of the last 3 years, we could have/should have beaten Auburn. Why didn't we? When are we finally going to beat them in a year when they win more than 1 conference game?
Also, that OM team that got shut out by Bama just went toe to toe, score for score against a top 10 A&M. If you'll remember, OM was down 21-10 in the third quarter. They fought their way back into the game and lead the game twice in the 4th quarter. Oh, OM also should have beaten a top 10 LSU team last year at their place. Freeze can get his team fired up to play big games. Last year, that A&M blew us the ever living 17 out of our stadium the entire game. We failed to even show up. Same goes for #WeBelieve and the Egg Bowl (particularly in the second half). When will we take the next step? I'm not satisfied with beating Troy and MTSU + that year's SEC doormats... I'm ready to see us compete in big games... the games which high school football players dream of playing in. The past 3 years, we've yet to step up when it counts.
2 of the last 3 years, we could have/should have beaten Auburn. Why didn't we? When are we finally going to beat them in a year when they win more than 1 conference game?
Also, that OM team that got shut out by Bama just went toe to toe, score for score against a top 10 A&M. If you'll remember, OM was down 21-10 in the third quarter. They fought their way back into the game and lead the game twice in the 4th quarter. Oh, OM also should have beaten a top 10 LSU team last year at their place. Freeze can get his team fired up to play big games. Last year, that A&M blew us the ever living 17 out of our stadium the entire game. We failed to even show up. Same goes for #WeBelieve and the Egg Bowl (particularly in the second half). When will we take the next step? I'm not satisfied with beating Troy and MTSU + that year's SEC doormats... I'm ready to see us compete in big games... the games which high school football players dream of playing in. The past 3 years, we've yet to step up when it counts.
No I am actually in complete agreeance with you. If we only win 6 games next year he should be gone. I do use my eyes. And what I have seen is we play in the hardest division of football in the history of college football. People are expecting us to upset teams that NO ONE beats. We have lost 3 questionable games since Dan has been here. All 3 have been on the road in the SEC. @Auburn, @Auburn, and @Ole Miss. Even then, we were underdogs in two of those 3 games. But Dan has gone 4-4 in the SEC two out of the last 3 years. Say what you want about the teams we have played, but winning 4 games in the SEC is never easy, especially when we play Alabama and LSU every year (and Auburn and Arkansas to a lesser extent) and now A&M.
Alright so we've taken the step of actually beating the ****** teams instead of occasionally losing to them. What's your point? My point is I want us to play our damn hearts out, play with passion, and RELENTLESS 17ING EFFORT EVERY FREAKIN' TIME WE STEP ON THE FIELD. We don't, and you are ok with that? Just because we beat the teams we are supposed to beat and get freakin steamrolled by the better teams? Come on, man. Why can't you see my point?
Freeze had his team absolutely ready to play after a heartbreaking loss to Auburn... they JUST ABOUT BEAT A TOP 10 A&M in front of an insane crowd. That same A&M team ran us the 17 off our own field on the first drive last year. So did Alabama, and LSU (in the second half), but that's ok because we beat Bowling Green (and we should have lost), MTSU, Alcorn, Memphis, and UK (and occasionally OM... but don't be surprised if they show up to play and we don't aGAIN) every year to get us to 6-7 wins and go to bowl games. You are OK with that? Why, after year 5 can we not start to see another tangible step taken with our program? South Carolina used to suck, but look where they are now. 7 years ago, they were a step above UK and Vandy. So when will our turn be? When will we wake up and seriously challenge or beat the LSU's, A&M's, Alabama's on our schedule instead of playing "not to lose" and get throttled when it matters? Why is that too much to ask from our head coach we are paying $3MM a year for?
Freeze had his team absolutely ready to play after a heartbreaking loss to Auburn... they JUST ABOUT BEAT A TOP 10 A&M in front of an insane crowd. That same A&M team ran us the 17 off our own field on the first drive last year. So did Alabama, and LSU (in the second half), but that's ok because we beat Bowling Green (and we should have lost), MTSU, Alcorn, Memphis, and UK (and occasionally OM... but don't be surprised if they show up to play and we don't aGAIN) every year to get us to 6-7 wins and go to bowl games. You are OK with that? Why, after year 5 can we not start to see another tangible step taken with our program? South Carolina used to suck, but look where they are now. 7 years ago, they were a step above UK and Vandy. So when will our turn be? When will we wake up and seriously challenge or beat the LSU's, A&M's, Alabama's on our schedule instead of playing "not to lose" and get throttled when it matters? Why is that too much to ask from our head coach we are paying $3MM a year for?
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This is dumb....
with the exception of about 4-5 teams like Alabama, the schedule is a substantial factor in every team's expectations for any given year.
with the exception of about 4-5 teams like Alabama, the schedule is a substantial factor in every team's expectations for any given year.
Just
give it up. You're talking to the same collective that wanted Cohen gone in year 3 (some in Y2). You're not going to fix stupid.
give it up. You're talking to the same collective that wanted Cohen gone in year 3 (some in Y2). You're not going to fix stupid.
For the record, I did not want Cohen gone after year 3. We've taken tangible steps in baseball that have pulled us out of the cellar to one of the top 5-6 programs in the SEC, easily (we won a regional in year 3, won the SECT in year 4, and played for a National Title in year 5. I'm sold). Also, for the record, I don't want Mullen gone YET... but until he shows me what I've been pointing out, it won't take me long to get to that point. We are paying a guy $3MM a year, I want to see progress. Aside from years 1 and 2, where has there been progress since?
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Superior was 7-6 in year 5 at South Carolina. In his first 4 years he went 7-6 8-5 6-6 7-6. Sound familiar?
No doubt
you're being level-headed. I was referencing the over-the-edge, less intelligent posters.
you're being level-headed. I was referencing the over-the-edge, less intelligent posters.
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