Ledger/ nj.com didn't cover game.

mikefla

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WOW !.......they missed a BIG story line(Coach P says goodbye to SB)

Well.....only thing we can do is keep winning so they HAVE to cover our games !
 

koleszar

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They like to believe that when anything good happens at RU, it really didn't happen. This win doesn't fit their agenda so they chose not to cover it. It keeps their narrative alive and well.
 

Degaz-RU

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I can under stand not sending reporters to away games, but Stony Brook is a 2-hr drive from Newark. Ridiculous that they didn't send Sarge or Dunleavy.
 

Underdogs88

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It was a good storyline and the press blew it. I went through the sports section twice in the ledger trying to find an article on the game.
 

4theknights

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This paper is an embarrassment. How can you not cover this game?? The University of the state of NJ and some exec makes a decision to ignore coverage yet they were there when Pikiell had his press conference back in March. Hey, either full coverage or not... Solution is don't buy this paper.
 

RUich

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Very sad that a once great sports section (Yes, once upon a time) has become what it is. They want to be New Jersey's paper, yet throw the state university under the bus every chance they get.
I'm no journalist, but I would think a down trodden program like RU's being 9-1 is a story!
 

RUJMM78

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Sadly ,college athletics in New Jersey doesn't attract great numbers of newspaper readers.The number of newspaper pages are being reduced every year.The internet is replacing newspapers and magazines because it lessens labor coasts.
 

RUMBA-JK

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I can under stand not sending reporters to away games, but Stony Brook is a 2-hr drive from Newark. Ridiculous that they didn't send Sarge or Dunleavy.

... but the tolls- they are expensive... and the reimbursement for mileage - -if the Star Ledger has to pay more than $10 to get to a story - forget it.- they will sit home & cobble something together off of what they can find on the internet.
 

Dpgru

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I went to NJ.com one hour after the game to read about the game and the story at the top of the BASKETBALL page was that Jabril Peppers had no prepared speech for the Heisman award. I didn't read it. Half hour later they had one article on the victory over SB. that was it. I wondered why and then I realized that everything is going well on the basketball side, no scandals, no kids leaving the program, so apparently there is nothing to cover. If they can't make RU look bad they really don't give a damn.
 

Colbert17!

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Growing up I always looked forward to reading Ledger sports in the morning and the Elizabeth Daily Journal in the afternoon. Back then the Journal actually had high school baseball box scores and individual basketball scoring. Both papers had great sports writers back then like Gene Picker and Bill Kennedy, not to mention Jerry Izenberg.
Papers are a shell of their former selves and will soon disappear altogether.
 

Dpgru

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Growing up I always looked forward to reading Ledger sports in the morning and the Elizabeth Daily Journal in the afternoon. Back then the Journal actually had high school baseball box scores and individual basketball scoring. Both papers had great sports writers back then like Gene Picker and Bill Kennedy, not to mention Jerry Izenberg.
Papers are a shell of their former selves and will soon disappear altogether.


I agree with your assessment of the current plight of traditional newspapers but shouldn't that exact reasoning be pushing them into trying to cultivate a readership base among RU supporters rather than chase them away with their biased negative coverage.
 
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LouDawgRU03

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Same on BTN. There were 11 B1G MBB games yesterday. The show they had on last night/this morning had highlights of 10. There was 1 game that didn't even get mentioned. Can you guess which one?
 

ColonelRutgers

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I agree with your assessment of the current plight of traditional newspapers but shouldn't that exact reasoning be pushing them into trying to cultivate a readership base among RU supporters rather than chase them away with their biased negative coverage.
I don't want biased negative coverage but I also don't want biased positive coverage either. I don't always agree with everything a Star-Ledger / NJ.com sportswriter says but I think they've been pretty easy on RU since Hobbs has taken over. There were certainly opportunities to bury the football staff this Fall and they didn't.
 

Dpgru

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Same on BTN. There were 11 B1G MBB games yesterday. The show they had on last night/this morning had highlights of 10. There was 1 game that didn't even get mentioned. Can you guess which one?

In their defense, the game was not really aired on TV. it was on the ESPN web coverage (ESPN3) I believe. They may not have had access to any of the coverage. I am only guessing but there may not be any highlights available.
 

Dpgru

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I don't want biased negative coverage but I also don't want biased positive coverage either. I don't always agree with everything a Star-Ledger / NJ.com sportswriter says but I think they've been pretty easy on RU since Hobbs has taken over. There were certainly opportunities to bury the football staff this Fall and they didn't.

I don't want biased coverage either but the basketball team is a huge positive story. Considering the coverage they were willing to give the Mike Rice situation and the fact that they ran a story about how Coach P never got to say goodbye at SB you would think there was a story here worth spending some time on. Instead, they had an article in the basketball board about Jabril Peppers. Really!
 
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ColonelRutgers

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I don't want biased coverage either but the basketball team is a huge positive story. Considering the coverage they were willing to give the Mike Rice situation and the fact that they ran a story about how Coach P never got to say goodbye at SB you would think there was a story here worth spending some time on. Instead, they had an article in the basketball board about Jabril Peppers. Really!
That's not bias that's an editorial decision, albeit a disappointing one, based on their increasingly limited resources and staff. Outside our ScarletNation basketball forum bubble I don't agree that our team is a huge story. Agree that posting non-Rutgers basketball stories, especially about Peppers, on the "Rutgers Basketball Page" on NJ.com is annoying though. No argument there.

The Mike Rice story was totally driven by national media and the Ledger was not a leader in that coverage in any way, shape or form. In fact, virtually nothing was made about the original Rice suspension/fine and readers of the local papers were left totally in the dark about what he was suspended/fined for until the ESPN report blew the lid off over 3 months later.
 

Colbert17!

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I agree with your assessment of the current plight of traditional newspapers but shouldn't that exact reasoning be pushing them into trying to cultivate a readership base among RU supporters rather than chase them away with their biased negative coverage.

 

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Same on BTN. There were 11 B1G MBB games yesterday. The show they had on last night/this morning had highlights of 10. There was 1 game that didn't even get mentioned. Can you guess which one?
Didn't see ... But what if RU lost?
 
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In their defense, the game was not really aired on TV. it was on the ESPN web coverage (ESPN3) I believe. They may not have had access to any of the coverage. I am only guessing but there may not be any highlights available.
Even if the game was produced by someone else it aired on ESPN3. Media share content with one another, so having access isn't a problem.
 
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Local Shill

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In their defense, the game was not really aired on TV. it was on the ESPN web coverage (ESPN3) I believe. They may not have had access to any of the coverage. I am only guessing but there may not be any highlights available.
There were other games involving Big Ten teams aired by an ESPN Network or on ESPN3 so your theory is not accurate.
 
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Growing up I always looked forward to reading Ledger sports in the morning and the Elizabeth Daily Journal in the afternoon. Back then the Journal actually had high school baseball box scores and individual basketball scoring. Both papers had great sports writers back then like Gene Picker and Bill Kennedy, not to mention Jerry Izenberg.
Papers are a shell of their former selves and will soon disappear altogether.
Same here. We had the Bergen Record delivered and looked forward to reading the sports section daily.
 

bac2therac

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That's not bias that's an editorial decision, albeit a disappointing one, based on their increasingly limited resources and staff. Outside our ScarletNation basketball forum bubble I don't agree that our team is a huge story. Agree that posting non-Rutgers basketball stories, especially about Peppers, on the "Rutgers Basketball Page" on NJ.com is annoying though. No argument there.

The Mike Rice story was totally driven by national media and the Ledger was not a leader in that coverage in any way, shape or form. In fact, virtually nothing was made about the original Rice suspension/fine and readers of the local papers were left totally in the dark about what he was suspended/fined for until the ESPN report blew the lid off over 3 months later.


my thinking is because all the NJ sportswriters were totally absent on this story even while it happened....and that was their choice to not make it a big deal...they feel that they have to go overboard on everything Rutgers since that happened. Its their own fault the national media got all the attention with the Rice story as they took a story from right under their eyes...pretty big fail by NJ media.
 

RUChoppin

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I sent them an email through their website. Here was Manahan's reply:

"Thanks for your email.

Unfortunately, Rutgers men’s basketball doesn’t generate a lot of traffic for us, especially during the non-conference schedule. Plus, our Rutgers reporters were chasing the change of offensive coordinator for the football team, which the wire, of course, wouldn’t provide us.

“Doing our job” means deciding how to use our resources to get the best return for us, as a company, and readers, in general. And Rutgers football generates far more traffic (the metric we sell to advertisers) than RU hoops.

Yes, we’d like to cover all RU hoops games, but that’s not our business model anymore. When Rutgers hoops improves and the traffic improves, that likely will change.

Best,
Kevin Manahan
Sports Director, NJ Advance Media"
 

BoroKnight

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They like to believe that when anything good happens at RU, it really didn't happen. This win doesn't fit their agenda so they chose not to cover it. It keeps their narrative alive and well.
********. You don't know if a game is going to win before it starts, do you?

Seriously. Some people ...
 

ColonelRutgers

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Actually give credit to Manahan for a serious and detailed reply. Considering the coverage the other NJ schools get including Seton Hall whose team is much better than ours we should probably feel lucky with what we do get. Unfortunate but that's the reality of it.
 

KnightsofChrome

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What ever happened to the Jersey Journal? Growing up in Hudson County, they were the paper ever one read. But, that was a very long time ago...