Key Point last nights game

richthedentist

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12:03 left RHJ makes a layup and is fouled; There is a time out the actual 16 minute and under time out which means there will be another time out very soon; After time out RHJ makes free throw to cut deficit to 48-45; He promptly takes him out after the foul shot and Michigan goes on a 9-0 run over the next 2:43 which also included the under 12 minute time out and he still didn't bring RHJ back in and when he came back in we were down 12 and Michigan actually made the next basket and then down 14 why in the world do you take out RHJ then!!!!!!!
Also one more thing why wasn't Caleb guarding Huston he shoots 51% from 3 point range at home!! Why!! He guarded him on one possession in the first half and he knocked the ball off his leg just another huge coaching mistake last night
 

RUShea

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I was also perplexed why RHJ came out there. He was the only one doing anything offensively and I don't recall him being in foul trouble. Needed to ride him there IMO.
 

Loyal_2RU

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I was also perplexed why RHJ came out there. He was the only one doing anything offensively and I don't recall him being in foul trouble. Needed to ride him there IMO.
He was sharing his left hand a lot. Not sure if something there.
 

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Because Ron Harper can’t play 40 minutes (let alone 34) and he needs to be rested at some point. You use the media TOs as your friend.

Michigan had gone up 6 before the 3 point play by Ron..you could sense a run. We needed Ron at the juncture. Pike too much trust in the bench who were horrible though i dont remember the lineup. Assuming Hyatt who was taking 3s..smfh
 
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richthedentist

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Michigan had gone up 6 before the 3 point play by Ron..you could sense a run. We needed Ron at the juncture. Pike too much trust in the bench who were horrible though i dont remember the lineup. Assuming Hyatt who was taking 3s..smfh
your right bench was horrible and I still believe we can't play Miller at this time he just gives us zero on offense even when they had the 2-1 break and Geo passed him the ball all I kept saying before the pass was don't pass the ball to Miller and sure enough he got his shot blocked so easily
 
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Michigan had gone up 6 before the 3 point play by Ron..you could sense a run. We needed Ron at the juncture. Pike too much trust in the bench who were horrible though i dont remember the lineup. Assuming Hyatt who was taking 3s..smfh
Ron needs his rest. He really needs to play 28 minutes per game. Ron playing with a half tank of energy is unlikely to stop a run and more likely to keep it going.
 
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RUJMM78

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Bottom line Rutgers has limited scoring options .In this game Rutgers only scored 62 points which clearly isn't enough to win on the road.Bench scoring all season has been hit or miss.Harper and Baker scoring more than 30 points a game has been hit or miss.The team has over achieved at home with the assistance of the RAC crowd, but on the road performance has been marked with scoring droughts and poor defense which has resulted in losses.Its remarkable that Rutgers still has a chance for a NCAA bid.
 

Scangg

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your right bench was horrible and I still believe we can't play Miller at this time he just gives us zero on offense even when they had the 2-1 break and Geo passed him the ball all I kept saying before the pass was don't pass the ball to Miller and sure enough he got his shot blocked so easily
Some bench players were better than Geo and Paul last night.

Geo needs to take another attacking dribble before that pass to Miller on the break and it's an easy lay in
 
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all points are good but I think one play really stood out to me:

RU ties it at 38, Michigan misses but RU can't get the board(s), Houstan promptly drains a 3, then next trip after a miss or TO, another one. 6 point lead just like that. (Houstan was trash talking Pike, thought that was really a punk move).
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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The offense for some reason so often runs through Caleb?! Makes no sense.
This is completely false. He’s the last offensive option of the starting 5. In fact - of the 10 guys who played only Miller and Mag attempted less shots per minute than him.

And by the way - in this game he actually shot at a higher percentage rate than everyone except RHJ and Cliff.
 
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This is completely false. He’s the last offensive option of the starting 5. In fact - of the 10 guys who played only Miller and Mag attempted less shots per minute than him.

And by the way - in this game he actually shot at a higher percentage rate than everyone except RHJ and Cliff.
Dont care about shots per minute so I'm not wrong. He was behind only Harper and Baker and tied with Cliff with 9 attempts. For the season he shoots the lowest percentage of the starters. What's even more clear is that Baker needs to stop shooting on the nights when his shots don't fall.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Dont care about shots per minute so I'm not wrong. He was behind only Harper and Baker and tied with Cliff with 9 attempts. For the season he shoots the lowest percentage of the starters. What's even more clear is that Baker needs to stop shooting on the nights when his shots don't fall.
You should care because it shoots down your whole point really. Paul was on the bench in foul trouble half the game. That’s why he only had 8 shots. Otherwise he would have had way more than Caleb. Who are you suggesting should’ve taken more shots? Your saying not Geo. The issue was that we couldn’t get the ball in more to Cliff. Michigan did a good job of denying that. RHJ took 14 shots. He couldn’t take all of them. The bench players do not shoot at better percentages than Caleb. So who else?
 

Scangg

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We should have went to Cliff in the post more. He was effective and the we only went to him like twice
 

PSAL_Hoops

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We should have went to Cliff in the post more. He was effective and the we only went to him like twice
We tried - Michigan made it hard for us. We turned it over a couple times trying to force the ball inside.
 

goru7

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We should have went to Cliff in the post more. He was effective and the we only went to him like twice
Yes and no. We needed to hit more 3’s and set up more 3’s. We hit 1 until Cliff hit one late. We lost by 9. We make 5 threes instead of 2 , the game goes to the wire.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Yes and no. We needed to hit more 3’s and set up more 3’s. We hit 1 until Cliff hit one late. We lost by 9. We make 5 threes instead of 2 , the game goes to the wire.
Yes - that too. To have a real chance we needed to establish some semblance of a perimeter game. Just couldn’t get the 3s to fall.
 

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You should care because it shoots down your whole point really. Paul was on the bench in foul trouble half the game. That’s why he only had 8 shots. Otherwise he would have had way more than Caleb. Who are you suggesting should’ve taken more shots? Your saying not Geo. The issue was that we couldn’t get the ball in more to Cliff. Michigan did a good job of denying that. RHJ took 14 shots. He couldn’t take all of them. The bench players do not shoot at better percentages than Caleb. So who else?
Acryally your admitting I'm correct. Imo Caleb forces way too many mid range jumpers. He chooses to take those shots...
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Acryally your admitting I'm correct. Imo Caleb forces way too many mid range jumpers. He chooses to take those shots...
Dude - did you even watch the game? 9 shots are recorded for Caleb. There was technically a 10th attempt where he was fouled driving to the basket (not a mid-range). One of the other 9 came in garbage time with 30 seconds left in the game and the outcome decided (I don’t recall what type of shot that was - but who cares? The game was over.)

So he took a total of 8 shots while this game mattered. He made two driving layups in penetration and hit on a third lay in on a back door cut feed from Mag. He had his shot blocked on 2 other attempts to drive to the basket but considering he also made 2 of those types of shots and drew a foul on a 3rd, it wasn’t like he didn’t have some success with pentration in this game to say he shouldn’t have attempted any drives to the basket. Only one was truly a bad decision - where we had closed the gap and he tried to drive and got stuffed.

I’m not sure where you are getting that he took a ton of mid range shots. He took maybe 3 total and made one of them. He hesitated on one of the other ones and the shot was blocked as a result. Did he have a great offensive day? No. He took a few bad shots but otherwise was decent. He’s the last guy you ought to be complaining about from the Michigan game though.
 
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I thought it was us pressing, tie game, and they hit back-to-back 3’s. Not sure why we felt the need to press at that moment it was still early in the 2nd. We never tied it again IIRC.
 

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You should care because it shoots down your whole point really. Paul was on the bench in foul trouble half the game. That’s why he only had 8 shots. Otherwise he would have had way more than Caleb. Who are you suggesting should’ve taken more shots? Your saying not Geo. The issue was that we couldn’t get the ball in more to Cliff. Michigan did a good job of denying that. RHJ took 14 shots. He couldn’t take all of them. The bench players do not shoot at better percentages than Caleb. So who else?
I don't care who takes the shots; the offensive runs through Jalen Miller. Don't try to prove me wrong with "metrics" and "statistics".
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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I don't care who takes the shots; the offensive runs through Jalen Miller. Don't try to prove me wrong with "metrics" and "statistics".
In all seriousness - the kid actually does serve an important (albeit limited) role on offense. We have 3 starting guards who range from pretty good to serviceable ball handlers. When pressured, we’re generally okay as long as 2 of the 3 are on the floor. But if 2 need to sit at the same time, things can get dicy there (Paul and Caleb especially really need another ball handling guard on the floor to help with on ball pressure). Miller truly is all we’ve got in this situation and there have been times he’s subbed in to service this purpose as much as for his defense. Hyatt and Mag are horrendous ball handlers.
 
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