KAT hits a career high 7 three's

AlbanyWildCat

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Wiggins was 10-27 from the field and had 0 assists 0 steals 0 blocks and was -26 for the game. Please either get KAT out of Minnesota or bench Wiggins. Maybe see if OKC will take him for Chris Paul to see if Donovan can resurrect him.

I'll assume you actually didn't watch the game...Wiggins hit the last two shots for the Wolves to win that game. .
 

LineSkiCat14

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I'll assume you actually didn't watch the game...Wiggins hit the last two shots for the Wolves to win that game. .

I don't understand why you're so hellbent on defending Butler and Wiggins and throwing KAT under the bus..

Wiggins is considered one of the biggest wastes in the NBA. He's a joke not only in fantasy basketball but in all of sports media. How can you defend his NBA career? Hitting two late game shots doesn't erase a pretty horrible game otherwise.

Either way.. his leash is almost at the end as NBA execs realize he is who he is after 5 years in the NBA. It's not all that different than MKG, but for different reasons. MKG actually tries, but sadly he just doesn't have any outside game. You're not going to fix these guys.
 

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I'll assume you actually didn't watch the game...Wiggins hit the last two shots for the Wolves to win that game. .
I'm assuming you're clueless as usual. Wiggins took and missed the final 2 shots in regulation causing the game to need an OT in the first place. As well as being instrumental in Minnesota giving up an 18 point first half lead. He played well at the end of OT, he was atrocious the rest of the game. Only you would defend a player who was -26 while on the floor.
 

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I don't understand why you're so hellbent on defending Butler and Wiggins and throwing KAT under the bus..

Wiggins is considered one of the biggest wastes in the NBA. He's a joke not only in fantasy basketball but in all of sports media. How can you defend his NBA career? Hitting two late game shots doesn't erase a pretty horrible game otherwise.

Either way.. his leash is almost at the end as NBA execs realize he is who he is after 5 years in the NBA. It's not all that different than MKG, but for different reasons. MKG actually tries, but sadly he just doesn't have any outside game. You're not going to fix these guys.

clearly reading too much into my post. Never once defended Wiggins and his efforts/contract/anything.

thanks
 

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His point stands.....maybe Wiggins wouldn't have needed to hit two late shots if he had actually done something worthwhile for the first 9/10 of that game [laughing]

that could be said of any one player in any one game. Not sure what point you’re trying to make.

all I said was Wiggins scores the last two buckets, fairly easily, to win the game in OT
 

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I don't understand why you're so hellbent on defending Butler and Wiggins and throwing KAT under the bus..

Wiggins is considered one of the biggest wastes in the NBA. He's a joke not only in fantasy basketball but in all of sports media. How can you defend his NBA career? Hitting two late game shots doesn't erase a pretty horrible game otherwise.

Either way.. his leash is almost at the end as NBA execs realize he is who he is after 5 years in the NBA. It's not all that different than MKG, but for different reasons. MKG actually tries, but sadly he just doesn't have any outside game. You're not going to fix these guys.

jimmy buckets is a great player. Even pat riley knows that. Not sure why you don’t.
 

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that could be said of any one player in any one game. Not sure what point you’re trying to make.

all I said was Wiggins scores the last two buckets, fairly easily, to win the game in OT

jimmy buckets is a great player. Even pat riley knows that. Not sure why you don’t.

The thing is, I have zero problem with Butler. Im indifferent. Hes a great player with immense fire, but sometimes goes too far and sells out his teammates. Id take him on my Rockets in a hearbeat.

You're defending Wiggins to the point that you're slighting KAT. You're playing contrarian for some reason. Our fans call out an ex-kansas player for obvious reasons.. and you defend him without even acklowedging KAT having arguably THE best night if any player yesterday.

Who hurt you? Was it really KAT?
 
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Big John Stud

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jimmy buckets is a great player. Even pat riley knows that. Not sure why you don’t.
Great player? Dude ain't never been past the 2nd round in his career even tho he's played on stacked teams. He misses 20-30 games a year, sometimes for stuff like general soreness while pretending to be a tough guy. He even missed opening night for personal reasons. His nuts were prolly sore from you riding them if I had to guess the reason... weirdo.
 
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LineSkiCat14

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Great player? Dude ain't never been past the 2nd round in his career even tho he's played on stacked teams. He misses 20-30 games a year, sometimes for stuff like general soreness while pretending to be a tough guy. He even missed opening night for personal reasons. His nuts were prolly sore from you riding them if I had to guess the reason... weirdo.

In fairness.. and to defend someone from the same city as me..

Yao and McGrady.. tmac especially.. never did much in the playoffs either.. and both had injury riddled careers..

I think all three were/are phenominal players. I do think Butler is a hot head though. And his issues should have been more directed at the waste that is Andrew Wiggins.
 
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The thing is, I have zero problem with Butler. Im indifferent. Hes a great player with immense fire, but sometimes goes too far and sells out his teammates. Id take him on my Rockets in a hearbeat.

You're defending Wiggins to the point that you're slighting KAT. You're playing contrarian for some reason. Our fans call out an ex-kansas player for obvious reasons.. and you defend him without even acklowedging KAT having arguably THE best night if any player yesterday.

Who hurt you? Was it really KAT?

Once again...not sure who you are referring to as to who is defending Wiggins.
 

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Wiggins is terrible. I been saying it for a while.

Not sure who i argued before on this site. Not sure why anyone defend that lazy *** player. The second he got that max contract Minnesota doomed themselves for many years to come.

-26...that's complete ****.
 

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A single game from last year?

Your butler/wiggins/KAT take is so bad its funny.

For whatever reason you made a stance on these three and you refuse to change your mind, not even a inch, with insurmountable evidence in your face..
 
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A single game from last year?

Your butler/wiggins/KAT take is so bad its funny.

For whatever reason you made a stance on these three and you refuse to change your mind, not even a inch, with insurmountable evidence in your face..

yeah its so damn confusing...

Wiggins best PER is 16.5 . Which happened in his second and third season. His best ws/48 is only at .069. his BPM (box plus/minus) has always been negative in his time in NBA...yeah... his VORP (value over replacement player) is also negative. Meaning he is worse than average player in the league....

and he is throwing shots at...

KAT which has the following advanced metrics....his worst season efficiency is 22.5 (his rookie season) which is still noticeably higher than wiggins. His worst ws/48 is .151 which is more than double what wiggins ever did. his bpm is always positive. and his value of replacement is also +.

and the moron is saying "well didn't KAT have -42". ROFLMAO. Wiggins is a continuation of terrible plays. Why doesn't he get it? Last night shows he hasn't changed ****. Lazy *** hell.
 
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Big John Stud

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didnt KAT post as -42 last year in the Butler rematch game?
People defending the indefensible will "what about" anything. People with agendas who don't care about facts always expose themselves and end up looking like a buffoon. We have a classic example of that here.
 

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Cal held him back.

Cal let Anthony Davis shoot 20 three pointers. Down the stretch, it seemed like they purposefully worked it around for him to get at least one perimeter shot up per game.

Towns was only allowed to shoot 8 three pointers total. I get what Cal was doing, and he's the expert, but we could have utilized his shooting ability without hurting his overall development.
 

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KAT is paid to be a star and produces like a star.

Wiggins is paid to be a star and produces like an above average starter.

It's not that Wiggins isn't a good player...but he's paid and expected to be a star piece. At this point in his career...it's ain't looking like he's going to make that jump.
 

CatsPaws270

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Cal let Anthony Davis shoot 20 three pointers. Down the stretch, it seemed like they purposefully worked it around for him to get at least one perimeter shot up per game.

Towns was only allowed to shoot 8 three pointers total. I get what Cal was doing, and he's the expert, but we could have utilized his shooting ability without hurting his overall development.
We won 38 of 39 games. KAT got drafted number 1. It worked for both parties.

A bad shot clock and ineffective guard play in the Wisconsin game cost us a win...not KAT's use.

You guys forget that guys like KAT have jumper potential...but the college game is a big step for a OAD. KAT went from being the biggest guy on the court where no one could guard him...to playing against guys as big and in better shape.

He had 4 months of an offseason to get in shape and learn the college game...and then play against a LARGE step up in competition with a team expected to win a title. Combine that with having to balance a class schedule...there just isn't time to make him shoot 3's just for development.

Once he got to the NBA? It was a full time job with some of the best trainers in the world. The franchise was now dedicated to him and his development. They could afford to let him shoot 3's because they weren't expected to make the playoffs. No class...just time for him to work on his shot.

Compare that to PJ Washington. He had 1 year under his belt...so he finally had an offseason to work on his shot and it showed next year. Cal didn't hold PJ back in year 1...he just wasn't ready physically. Year 2..he was ready to expand his game.
 

Mike-D

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that could be said of any one player in any one game. Not sure what point you’re trying to make.

all I said was Wiggins scores the last two buckets, fairly easily, to win the game in OT

-26 is awful.

jimmy buckets is a great player. Even pat riley knows that. Not sure why you don’t.

[laughing]

didnt KAT post as -42 last year in the Butler rematch game?

What is your obsession with KAT? This has been ongoing for over a year now. You hate a former UK player yet you ride the nuts of a dude with zero ties to our program. So weird and odd.
 
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