Kansas would beat us
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These buyouts and Trevs willingness to lose in order to save a few bucks leads me to believe we will go with a power 5 coordinator or a lower division head coach to avoid having to buyout a proven coach
It worked reasonably well for over 30 years, 5 titles later, multiple conference championships, then one day, it mysteriously stopped working
.Our goal is not a national championship. It is to win the division and play for the conference title. Establish the program, the winning culture, and elevate from there.
Remember guys, last week's game was a close loss, so that's pretty good, right?
OH YES I do remember. Those were also the ones that said o linemen weren't important recruiting priorities and neither were tight ends and fullbacks
The mystery is Scott Frost himself won a NC running the ball under Osborne, yet he refuses to go back to what he knows best. That’s what many expected when Frost was hired and is perplexing that he won’t go back to his roots.
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NU needs to ignore the talking heads and the NFL style of play. Focus on your system and make it miserable for other teams to play you. But succeed wildly at the fundamentals.
Frost has screwed this thing up ten ways to Sunday and unfortunately it’s not just one thing. We’ll never how last weeks game would’ve turned out without the onside kick, but it’s not inconceivable to imagine a normal kickoff then the D getting a stop and then the O maintaining momentum and pouring it on. The running plays last week were unimpressive and pretty basic. It’s just a crappy spot to be as a fan.
Frost actually runs the ball over 50 percent of the time. I was surprised we hired whipple who throws the ball more.
Saw this posted on Reddit and shows how bad we have become.
“With Kansas’s win over Tennessee Tech, they now have the same number of wins through 13 games as Nebraska
Other KU v NU stats
Last 12 win season
* KU: 2007
* NU: 1999
Last NY6/BCS bowl win
* KU: 2008 (2007 season)
* NU: 2000 (1999 season)
Record in last 25 games decided by one possession
* KU: 9-16
* NU: 5-20
(Yes, I know Nebraska has a *laundry list* of stats they can whip out on KU—like their insane 36 game win-streak—however, that’s not the point)”
“With Kansas’s win over Tennessee Tech, they now have the same number of wins through 13 games as Nebraska
Other KU v NU stats
Last 12 win season
* KU: 2007
* NU: 1999
Last NY6/BCS bowl win
* KU: 2008 (2007 season)
* NU: 2000 (1999 season)
Record in last 25 games decided by one possession
* KU: 9-16
* NU: 5-20
(Yes, I know Nebraska has a *laundry list* of stats they can whip out on KU—like their insane 36 game win-streak—however, that’s not the point)”
Not many teams do two things well, meaning the ability to run or pass effectively depending on the situation. The exception are the schools that have superior talent at each position.
Frost wants to look good throwing the ball. Running has to be part of the equation, but it's in the backseat for the most part. An after thought.
TO for obvious reasons dominated on the ground with a style of play that made his opponents wither. He attacked them running the ball and he attacked them defensively to create turnovers.
Kansas won two games last year, but Leipold and his staff werent. there until after spring football. He beat Texas in a shootout and nearly beat Oklahoma. He also flipped his roster by over 50%.
I think they'll find a way to win six games this year and go to a bowl game. They are building a competitive culture and learning how to win, something their football team rarely knows how to do (same as ours).
I think they'll find a way to win six games this year and go to a bowl game. They are building a competitive culture and learning how to win, something their football team rarely knows how to do (same as ours).
I created my user name to accurately describe most hawkkkeye fans…..potato head is slang and from the urban dictionary-
A complete idiot who is too stupid and inept to realize just how stupid and inept he really is. Also thinks he's a bit clever - usually a bit of a slap-head as well...
I think I had the European dictionary pulled up, they use terms like numpty (Scottish) and slap-head….
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So let me get this straight, you run the ball guys are now ok with 8 and 9 wins and not playing for titles? Iowa runs the ball a lot, Wisconsin runs the ball a lot, Minnesota as well. Guess what, they don’t win titles.
The one thing that all the run the ball guys are omitting is the head coach and having a group of assistants that are willing to remain assistants for the majority of their careers.
Lastly Osborne didn’t have an attacking defense that created turnovers until his last 6 years. Before then he ran a 5-2 and a bunch of 3 deep zone in the back end.
The one thing that all the run the ball guys are omitting is the head coach and having a group of assistants that are willing to remain assistants for the majority of their careers.
Lastly Osborne didn’t have an attacking defense that created turnovers until his last 6 years. Before then he ran a 5-2 and a bunch of 3 deep zone in the back end.
I agree with a lot of this, a bigten west team is not going to win a bigten title trotting out big, slow pro style QBs and hoping to win games 24-20. Wisconsin won one with Russell Wilson and I believe they won one with Coan so?? The one with the slow QB is the exception that proves the rule.
No one made you post hawkkkeye talking points, you can change and prove me wrong or you can continue and be called out. Up to you potato head.
Wow KU beat an FCS team that went 3-8 last year. I'm not sure that tells anything.
Now, if we struggle with North Dakota today, then you might have a point.
Now, if we struggle with North Dakota today, then you might have a point.
Close. Wisconsin hasn’t won a big ten title since it was legends and leaders. They won with Wilson but that was also the Fickel year for Ohio St when they were 6-6. Then the next year they won it when they beat Nebraska and backed in to the title game because both Ohio st and Penn st were ineligible.
Oh I know no bigten west team as currently configured has ever won the bigten title. My overall point was agreeing with you that trotting out big slow QBs and expecting to win a bigten title winning 24-20 is not happening. Well coached teams that run pro style offenses and play good D can put kids in the NFL, but it’s not a recipe for elite success in college.
Kansas has an athletic, running qb, like we used to. He led them in rushing, while not ideal. They are prone to injury. The Big 10 West QBs do not run. Point being, we used to be unique and win a lot.
But, I guess we could have more of the same and win 3 to 4 games a year
Agreed, Tennessee tech is not Virginia tech or Georgia tech. They're not even Northern Iowa.
Kansas is the weakest team in the Big 12 and has been for forever with exception to the really bad Kansas State years.
I am predicting now that they will win at least six games which would be phenomenal for them. Then I project that the right coach and system at a place like Nebraska with ridiculous resources, becomes a ten win team.
Everyone thinks that kids dream of playing in the NFL and avoid schools that are not pass-happy. I disagree. There are dynamic players across the country who are phenomenal runners and leaders but only nominal passers. In the clip I shared, they set up tech with a long play action pass for a big gain. This looks so much like old Nebraska football it was ridiculous.
You're right. We sort of had the recipe, with Adrian Martinez. Protections breakdown and quarterbacks have to improvise. So while he could run a bit, his passing was so predictable. Now if he was designed to run first or hand off, he may very well have been a serviceable passer. But to put the game in his hands where passing was required, was a recipe for failure
Which 5 additional games will they win? I see Duke and that is it. They will be the underdogs every other game. So they’re going to have to win at least three games they should lose. And you are basing this on their quarterback having a great game against Tennessee tech
Thanks hawkkkeye, more important to be here than watch the hawkkks??
I like Lance and I’m happy for Sevy, but this was in garbage time against a vastly undermined opponent.