Jim Irsay
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absolutely insane collection to have gilmour's strat and cobain's d-18. can't even imagine what those will fetch if they go to auction.
His dad, Bob Irsay, made the family fortune, but is probably remembered more for what a jerk he was. Not too shocking that his kid would turn out to have the opposite personality, but unfortunately he also had a lifetime of substance abuse that wrecked his health.
back in the 80s while eating at an upscale carmel/indy restaurant, his father, robert, came walking in with a belicheck broad on his arm. first time i had seen him in person. it was also my introduction to old men's fascination with heart attack fodder.
Really? I remember him differently, a lot different. In fact wasn't there some talk he could lose his franchiae? Do I have him mistaken with somebody elae? We'll go with your opinion, not lookin to dance on the guys grave.
Interesting question...hadn't thought bout it that way before.
....since i'm enjoying all the bad stuff I guess I know how i lean. Haha
Might be thinking of his dad, Bob. Jim was fantastic, fought his demons, but was super charitable and gave everyone the time of day. I was listening to a podcast earlier, they said he paid for the college 82 children of parents that worked in a specific area. Not a soul knee about it. Donated like crazy, kicking the stigma. Go check out what Pat McAfee had to say about him.
How many owners are hand selected to introduce someone into the hall of fame? Edge, Harrison, and Freeney all asked him. He cut two of the three. That's how highly they thought of Jim.
When you are "doing the bad stuff", you probably don't think it will have such a huge negative impact on your life and in some cases, it might not.
We just think of the fun.
Who knows!
Do you know where can I get some really bad stuff? My stuff isn’t bad enough.
All I know is everytime I see someone doing coke in a movie, they are having a blast. I asked my wife how soon can I try it?
Just because he had demons doesn’t mean he wasn’t a good guy. Some people need to get off there high horse. I have never heard that he killed or hurt anyone just maybe had an internal problem. Judge much?
Here’s the way I see it. By abusing drugs he robbed his family of time with him. I didn’t realize he was only in his mid 60’s. That’s not real old. But don’t assume just because he never hurt or killed someone that makes him innocent or a fabulous guy. He essentially killed himself.
Yes he killed himself . And no he is not innocent but by all things I read he was a respected well liked person.
Also a guy that did a ton for his community. That was a proven fact. He used his fortunes for the good of less fortunate. You no nothing about his family. But yes you judge someone without facts. That makes you judgmental. That’s how I see it
Btw my dad passed at 55 never touched a drug in his life. Good ole farm boy moved off the farm to the city wanting more for his family. Made a very comfortable living for my family. Not everyone is made to live until 90
You’re not seeing my point. You’re giving him credit for things he did. Great. But so effing what. Lotta people do nice things. But when you abuse your body like he did to the point of death, that don’t make you great. I don’t give a rats *** that he was revered. Dude did something that killed himself.
Yes I know… you are judgmental. I don’t give a rats ***. you are on a high horse with out knowing facts. He did great things unlike you judging someone with out knowing anything.
He had an addiction. I know people don’t like the comparison but he had an illness just like cancer. It sad but he couldn’t cure himself.
I don’t think I’m being judgmental at all in this. I’m saying I’m not calling anyone a great person when they abused something to their death. That’s not being great. The only stipulation I might have some remorse is if he was getting help, of which I don’t know.
If you don’t know than you should be silent. And yes he tried rehab. And you still don’t understand it’s an illness
As an alcoholic myself - there is a cure. It’s stopping. It takes amazing will power but anyone can do it if they make the choice. It’s a narrow path but I’m sure a gentlemen such as him could have done it.
Edit: C3O this was not posted in response to your post. Was just trying to bring some levity to the debate.
Yes, everyone can. That is a **** attitude. Anyone can beat addiction but not everyone makes the choice to do so.
It’s not easy. But it can be done. I’m not here to cast judgement on this fella, not my job.
I’ve seen guys that can barely talk become great salesmen.
I’ve seen short, ugly dudes get hot chicks
I’ve seen extremely fat mother ******* become skinny.
I’ve even seen that damn kid who swings that bat slower than evolution hit the ball in machine pitch little league
The human spirit can do all and thinking Jim didn’t have a chance is purely wrong
Who said he as an innocent guy? Or was a bad family man. His daughters seemed to love him. He taught them to run the team the same way he was taught to run the team.
Now go look at all the good he did. Yes, he struggled with addiction, but he also told his story and started the kicking the stigma foundation and donated over a hundred million dollars to help others with mental health struggled. He was super generous with his time and money. One demon doesn't make him a bad person. If it does, we are all bad people because we all have demons.
Irsay actually overcame addiction multiple times, but couldn't stay clean. Addiction ran in his family I believe.
it's not our job to gage whether this dude was good or not. Giving away money, while generous, doesn't make one good.
And I agree with all of your post btw
Didn’t a couple of the Colt players going into the HOF ask him to present them for induction? Thats an honor that probably doesn’t do to someone who is not well liked and greatly respected.