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<blockquote data-quote="MichaelJLucasWV" data-source="post: 129520252" data-attributes="member: 1734008"><p>You're #1 reason is Lyon's BIGGEST mistake. He may have done it to avoid another Joe DeForest scenario, where Dana keeps someone and moves him every year because he fails, but an AD CAN FIRE AN ASSISTANT COACH EASIER THAN A HEAD COACH if he sucks. But guys like Brian Mitchell, Ron Crook, and especially JaJuan Seider and Lonnie Galloway deserve MUCH better.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But if you're gonna throw that up, then, and to use your term, the true blue blood coaches aren't kicking down WVU's door either... I mean we have two of the best coaches in the country that grew up IN MORGANTOWN'S SHADOW, in Jimbo Fisher and Nick Saban, but you don't see them kicking down our doors now do you?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok, let me say that while #1 may have been true in the first three years, the last two years, we have had EXCELLENT assistant coaches, and have kept all but Tom Bradley, who was never meant to stay, just to help ease Tony Gibson into the DC role, and Damon Cogdell, who was hired as a strategy to get that Florida Pipeline going to WVU again, and conversely, to give Damon a start coaching in the college ranks. Other than Joe Deforest, no bad coaches have been retained, to my knowledge in the last two years. But even then, Deforest was one of the very few college coaches who are hands on with kickers, and we haven't had a better kicking game since a guy named Patty Mac was kicking and booting at WVU. Hell, Deforest ACTUALLY was the safeties coach responsible for K J Dillon and Karl Joseph, as well as having a Lou Groza finalist in the same year, so you're #1 doesn't really hold true anymore. Even worse, what really good assistant coach would EVER come here, knowing he's on a year to year contract, based on not how well he coaches his players, but how well his players actually play. One bad year. One bad attitude kid. JOB LOST.</p><p>TERRIBLE MOVE.</p><p>Also, recruiting isn't a science.. Dana has recruited plenty of highly regarded QBS 4*s David Sills, Ford Childress, William Crest, and now one of the other services has our newest qb as a 4*. Which blows my mind. If you want to say he doesn't develop them, then, maybe. But i think it's more than that. I'ts a combination of things (some on Dana, probably MORE on the actual players), but you can't say he doesn't get highly rated QBs.... or keep them... Ford was a disaster. Immature, and even at Fresno State, didn't get it. so.......</p><p></p><p></p><p>My point is that Shane is new at this, just like Dana was a new HC at one point. If Dana made rookie mistakes, that could cost us a game. Shane is making rookie mistakes that will ripple and have MUCH more of an impact when he does mess up.</p><p></p><p>btw, thanks for having a site that encourages discourse and refrains from 26 page threads of 5 informative posts, and 250 posts calling those 5 people dumbasses every way possible.. I retreat now. no more long posts for a while.. pinkie promise.</p><p></p><p>Let's Go!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MichaelJLucasWV, post: 129520252, member: 1734008"] You're #1 reason is Lyon's BIGGEST mistake. He may have done it to avoid another Joe DeForest scenario, where Dana keeps someone and moves him every year because he fails, but an AD CAN FIRE AN ASSISTANT COACH EASIER THAN A HEAD COACH if he sucks. But guys like Brian Mitchell, Ron Crook, and especially JaJuan Seider and Lonnie Galloway deserve MUCH better. But if you're gonna throw that up, then, and to use your term, the true blue blood coaches aren't kicking down WVU's door either... I mean we have two of the best coaches in the country that grew up IN MORGANTOWN'S SHADOW, in Jimbo Fisher and Nick Saban, but you don't see them kicking down our doors now do you? Ok, let me say that while #1 may have been true in the first three years, the last two years, we have had EXCELLENT assistant coaches, and have kept all but Tom Bradley, who was never meant to stay, just to help ease Tony Gibson into the DC role, and Damon Cogdell, who was hired as a strategy to get that Florida Pipeline going to WVU again, and conversely, to give Damon a start coaching in the college ranks. Other than Joe Deforest, no bad coaches have been retained, to my knowledge in the last two years. But even then, Deforest was one of the very few college coaches who are hands on with kickers, and we haven't had a better kicking game since a guy named Patty Mac was kicking and booting at WVU. Hell, Deforest ACTUALLY was the safeties coach responsible for K J Dillon and Karl Joseph, as well as having a Lou Groza finalist in the same year, so you're #1 doesn't really hold true anymore. Even worse, what really good assistant coach would EVER come here, knowing he's on a year to year contract, based on not how well he coaches his players, but how well his players actually play. One bad year. One bad attitude kid. JOB LOST. TERRIBLE MOVE. Also, recruiting isn't a science.. Dana has recruited plenty of highly regarded QBS 4*s David Sills, Ford Childress, William Crest, and now one of the other services has our newest qb as a 4*. Which blows my mind. If you want to say he doesn't develop them, then, maybe. But i think it's more than that. I'ts a combination of things (some on Dana, probably MORE on the actual players), but you can't say he doesn't get highly rated QBs.... or keep them... Ford was a disaster. Immature, and even at Fresno State, didn't get it. so....... My point is that Shane is new at this, just like Dana was a new HC at one point. If Dana made rookie mistakes, that could cost us a game. Shane is making rookie mistakes that will ripple and have MUCH more of an impact when he does mess up. btw, thanks for having a site that encourages discourse and refrains from 26 page threads of 5 informative posts, and 250 posts calling those 5 people dumbasses every way possible.. I retreat now. no more long posts for a while.. pinkie promise. Let's Go! [/QUOTE]
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