Incompetent NCHSAA

[2nd To No One]

On the eve of the NC high school football championship games, and after waiting to see other responses, we felt we must comment on the completely asinine scheduling of games chosen by the NCHSAA.
Who in their right mind puts high school students on the road in the middle of the night on a weekday school night with Friday obligations?
Same question for forcing parents to chose between work obligations and being present at their child’s biggest event in their young lives?

What are you doing?!

Commissioner Que Tucker’s weak attempt at an explanation on Monday was typical nonsense. And she said she received little pushback. We doubt that and her expecting it proves she knew it was a poor decision.

Somewhere between beholding to television, venue availability, overlapping games, and just how busy the NCHSAA staff is, North Carolina students and families and their safety and livelihoods took a back seat.

The Friday afternoon games are super inconvenient, also.
Time off of work and schools shutting down for the day to travel makes no sense.
And you have them headed in to congested areas during the holidays.

You have three venues. And eight games.
Play 3 on Friday night ( as all are used to).
Play 5 on Saturday across three venues.
All are televised and can be recorded/replayed.
Overlapping means nothing. You have done that for years. Common sense scheduling takes priority, for students and parents.
Not television.

A child could figure this out better.

Do a better job of obtaining venues far ahead of time. You know the set up for the next three years.

High school football is the biggest revenue producer and gains the largest student and fan participation of any extracurricular events.
Yet the NCHSAA treats the playoff set up as though it is as malleable as a church dinner.
The staff at the NCHSAA has never shown the ability or expertise to handle such an important occasion.

We were part of this insanity in 1998.
Forced to play our Championship Game on Thursday night because UNC had to play basketball on Saturday, we hammered the NCHSAA for placing programs, students, families and communities in woefully unsafe and impractical circumstances.
Our complaints were printed in the Charlotte Observer.
So 27 years later the knuckleheads assume it is okay to go there again.

It is not.
As someone else posted , once again the NCHSAA has failed the very people it exists to serve and protect.

 

[TarVikes1]

All good points! But I read this whole thing waiting for it to point out how this new system benefits Reidsville.

 

[WNCfootball]

Georgia and I believe Alabama play some of their championship games on week nights as well

 

[2nd To No One]

All good points! But I read this whole thing waiting for it to point out how this new system benefits Reidsville.

Que Tucker stated to the Shelby coaching staff that Reidsville is “her team”.
She has good history with the school and the community. First name basis.

It has come into play several times, even this past year with the moving up of Reidsville’s to 4A after the classes were
announced.

Shelby was left right behind Reidsville in 3A.

All will deny it, but with Que, Reidsville has a huge benefit that no one else has.
Especially Shelby.

 

[2nd To No One]

Georgia and I believe Alabama play some of their championship games on week nights as well

So what?
Still dumb scheduling.

 

[2claps]

On the eve of the NC high school football championship games, and after waiting to see other responses, we felt we must comment on the completely asinine scheduling of games chosen by the NCHSAA.
Who in their right mind puts high school students on the road in the middle of the night on a weekday school night with Friday obligations?
Same question for forcing parents to chose between work obligations and being present at their child’s biggest event in their young lives?

What are you doing?!

Commissioner Que Tucker’s weak attempt at an explanation on Monday was typical nonsense. And she said she received little pushback. We doubt that and her expecting it proves she knew it was a poor decision.

Somewhere between beholding to television, venue availability, overlapping games, and just how busy the NCHSAA staff is, North Carolina students and families and their safety and livelihoods took a back seat.

The Friday afternoon games are super inconvenient, also.
Time off of work and schools shutting down for the day to travel makes no sense.
And you have them headed in to congested areas during the holidays.

You have three venues. And eight games.
Play 3 on Friday night ( as all are used to).
Play 5 on Saturday across three venues.
All are televised and can be recorded/replayed.
Overlapping means nothing. You have done that for years. Common sense scheduling takes priority, for students and parents.
Not television.

A child could figure this out better.

Do a better job of obtaining venues far ahead of time. You know the set up for the next three years.

High school football is the biggest revenue producer and gains the largest student and fan participation of any extracurricular events.
Yet the NCHSAA treats the playoff set up as though it is as malleable as a church dinner.
The staff at the NCHSAA has never shown the ability or expertise to handle such an important occasion.

We were part of this insanity in 1998.
Forced to play our Championship Game on Thursday night because UNC had to play basketball on Saturday, we hammered the NCHSAA for placing programs, students, families and communities in woefully unsafe and impractical circumstances.
Our complaints were printed in the Charlotte Observer.
So 27 years later the knuckleheads assume it is okay to go there again.

It is not.
As someone else posted , once again the NCHSAA has failed the very people it exists to serve and protect.

Well stated. Great points and spot on. It feels the NCHSAA often makes decisions to make their life easier vs. doing what is best for student-athletes, schools and communities.

 

[HoeyMan79]

Que Tucker stated to the Shelby coaching staff that Reidsville is “her team”.
She has good history with the school and the community. First name basis.

It has come into play several times, even this past year with the moving up of Reidsville’s to 4A after the classes were
announced.

Shelby was left right behind Reidsville in 3A.

All will deny it, but with Que, Reidsville has a huge benefit that no one else has.
Especially Shelby.

It’s interesting how the conversation shifts depending on which side of the bracket someone happens to be standing on. When the ADM numbers were released, Reidsville landed barely into 4A—by a couple of students—while Shelby landed barely into 3A. The line had to be drawn somewhere to keep the classifications balanced, and that’s simply where the math put each school.


So now Reidsville enters the smallest end of the upper classification, while Shelby sits one student shy of being the largest school in 3A. Funny how that works. If this setup were truly the “advantage” that’s being implied, then seeding wouldn’t depend entirely on RPI—the one metric NCHSAA trusts enough to use every single time.


Now, a fair question—one nobody over in the “Gang of We” seems eager to address:


Would any school be more likely to win a state championship by staying in the classification they were assigned by ADM… or by dropping into the one below?


Similarly, how many schools would raise their odds by moving up a classification? (We both know that answer, but I’ll let you savor it.)


And here’s the great irony: for years some of your crew dismissed Reidsville titles during the 2A/2AA split—half this, half that, watered down, etc. Yet now, as Shelby settles into 3A… we’re left to wonder:


If you win a 3A title, is it a full “merit”… or just a half-star compared to the 4A champion?


You can’t have it both ways—unless, of course, selective logic is part of the tradition.

 

[2claps]

It’s interesting how the conversation shifts depending on which side of the bracket someone happens to be standing on. When the ADM numbers were released, Reidsville landed barely into 4A—by a couple of students—while Shelby landed barely into 3A. The line had to be drawn somewhere to keep the classifications balanced, and that’s simply where the math put each school.


So now Reidsville enters the smallest end of the upper classification, while Shelby sits one student shy of being the largest school in 3A. Funny how that works. If this setup were truly the “advantage” that’s being implied, then seeding wouldn’t depend entirely on RPI—the one metric NCHSAA trusts enough to use every single time.


Now, a fair question—one nobody over in the “Gang of We” seems eager to address:


Would any school be more likely to win a state championship by staying in the classification they were assigned by ADM… or by dropping into the one below?


Similarly, how many schools would raise their odds by moving up a classification? (We both know that answer, but I’ll let you savor it.)


And here’s the great irony: for years some of your crew dismissed Reidsville titles during the 2A/2AA split—half this, half that, watered down, etc. Yet now, as Shelby settles into 3A… we’re left to wonder:


If you win a 3A title, is it a full “merit”… or just a half-star compared to the 4A champion?


You can’t have it both ways—unless, of course, selective logic is part of the tradition.

This started as a "bash the NCHSAA" thread and you've turned it into a Shelby vs. Reidsville thread. Enough of those on here already. Let's get back to the business at hand. The 1A teams had to start a game at a time most schools have barely been released for the day - ON A THURSDAY!!! Tomorrow the 4A teams will kick-off before anybody under the age of 65 would say it's lunch time. What are we doing?!