If I Were Cliff....

Doctorzit

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May 26, 2013
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I would transfer after this year and go to a school where the coach can teach him better moves around the basket. He has not improved at all in this regard since he came to Rutgers. If better coaching still can't make a difference; at least he will know where he stands for the future.
 

shields

Heisman
Aug 5, 2002
79,836
17,750
113
I read his shooting is better. Where? Still can't shoot from 6 or 7 feet.
 

SirScarlet

Heisman
Jun 27, 2001
27,260
44,334
113
I would transfer after this year and go to a school where the coach can teach him better moves around the basket. He has not improved at all in this regard since he came to Rutgers. If better coaching still can't make a difference; at least he will know where he stands for the future.
**** this man

How about if you were cliff you would put in a bit of effort and try to show the younger guys how to play hard all game. Listen I can completely understand the frustration about his offensive game regressing but I am not going to stick up for a player who doesn't even put a shift in. I cannot remember the last time I've been this upset with one of our stars. He should have been benched yesterday and made an example. He was a disgrace and an embarrassment to competitive Sports yesterday.
 

SirScarlet

Heisman
Jun 27, 2001
27,260
44,334
113
Cliff is just a but uncoordinated and unnatural as a basketball player. One year at another school won't solve it
And to be clear I would never get on him if this was the criticism. But none of that absolves him from not giving any effort as the team leader. This is why I am so pointed in my criticism of him
 

RUich

All-Conference
Aug 2, 2001
13,552
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He always passed the eye test. But, when confronted with talented players, he looks totally confused.
In terms of offense, he can't even figure out how to make a foul shot.
Have no idea where he will end up in terms of basketball, but it certainly is not in the NBA.
 

toby83

All-Conference
Dec 23, 2014
4,095
3,822
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Somebody said it here few weeks back, and it's spot on

When you realize and accept the fact that Cliff is not actually a basketball player, (never was) and just an Uber athlete, it makes more sense when you watch him.
 
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RUJMM78

Heisman
Jul 25, 2001
26,201
12,457
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Its hard to believe that a starting player for most of his four years at the same school would not show marked improvement in shooting .Cliff spent time during the off season attending meetings with NBA officials discussing what he needs to do to be a NBA player.His performance this season will surely impact his future in basketball.
 

richthedentist

All-American
Aug 2, 2001
11,009
8,559
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Cliff’s problem isn’t coaching. He just doesn’t have a scorers touch.
He’s got absolutely no touch still can’t even shoot a baby hook
Has zero b-ball IQ
Does not box out on defense
The ball goes in to him it’s a black hole
 

SBP

All-Conference
Feb 5, 2003
4,750
4,668
113
If I were Cliff..

I’d go to a Big Man Camp and learn the game
 

Mr. Magoo1

Heisman
Nov 15, 2001
15,457
16,298
113
I would transfer after this year and go to a school where the coach can teach him better moves around the basket. He has not improved at all in this regard since he came to Rutgers. If better coaching still can't make a difference; at least he will know where he stands for the future.
Can’t argue with this. He’s not going to the NBA and he hasn’t gotten better here. He needs to be surrounded by good players to be effective since he has zero offensive skill.
 

satnom

All-American
Jun 28, 2002
6,961
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I’m just amazed that he’s still trying to make layups on the side of rim without using the back board. That is just being hardheaded or unwilling to play basketball the right way in the paint.

GO RU
 

NickRU714

Heisman
Aug 18, 2009
14,046
12,853
113
I’m just amazed that he’s still trying to make layups on the side of rim without using the back board. That is just being hardheaded or unwilling to play basketball the right way in the paint.

GO RU

My 8yo had his first rec basketball session yesterday.
They specifically made them shoot and use the square.
If you made it without the square then it didn’t count during that drill.

He said he was the only one to hit it both times and make it.
Sign him up!!
 
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zebnatto

All-Conference
May 7, 2008
5,071
3,818
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When we talk about "hands," what we're really talking about are fingers. Having played a lot of basketball, I have very smart individual fingers on my right hand, but still difficulty individually with my left fingers so they work more like a paddle and less like a quartet or quintet. Afraid Cliff has dumb fingers.
 

RutgersChow

All-Conference
Dec 31, 2008
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I would transfer after this year and go to a school where the coach can teach him better moves around the basket. He has not improved at all in this regard since he came to Rutgers. If better coaching still can't make a difference; at least he will know where he stands for the future.
Should have already done it.
 
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pd10124

All-Conference
Jul 19, 2023
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Cliff’s problem isn’t coaching. He just doesn’t have a scorers touch.
This! Cliffs game was never back to the basket post play and I have no clue why it’s getting forced. As a Knicks fan, I think he has the highest ceiling playing the Mitchell Robinson role. Pick and roll screener and a lob threat while being an elite rim protector and rebounder.

If Pike would simplify his offensive role and really focus on his natural rim protecting and rebounding ability I feel like he would be much more successful.
 
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