I Don't See How We Play This Year

[shotgunDawg]

It's not a practical issue. It's a political and potentially a legal issue.

It's easy to manage from a practical standpoint. The players and people that age in general aren't going to be socially isolated or in a bubble. So the incremental risk they are being exposed to is pretty minor. Just pull people out as they test positive and the people they were in close, in door contact with. This is going to require teams do things like film sessions and potentially weight sessions a little differently to avoid putting too much of their team at risk of sitting out. You'll have some teams that get pretty thin at times and you may even have a team forfeit a game if they get really unlucky with spread, but that's manageable.

It's the perception/political issues and maybe legal issues that are difficult, and withstanding the histrionics when there are positive tests and an athlete eventually gets seriously sick (which will probably happen, if not in the SEC at least in one of the P5 conferences, assuming they all play). The reality is that the risk was incremental and to the extent they catch covid from a football practice or game, it's still most likely just changing the time that they get sick. But logic and reasonable risk management doesn't play well with the public when COVID is involved, and who knows what litigation could look like. State schools may have statutory protection. The private schools may be exposed to a lot of legal costs even if the chances of an adverse verdict are small.

Good post.

I think there is a path to playing football, but I don't yet see it.

 

[Go Budaw]

Yes. I guess nothing is 100% certain with this virus and there may be exceptions, but once you have the antibodies you should be immune for at least 12 months. Clemson should be in good shape.

I’m pretty sure someone posted a day or 2 ago in one of the “know anyone who has COVID?” threads that they knew someone who had it twice. Can’t remember who or which thread though.

 

[ColoradoDawg]

If you go ahead and accept this then you won't be disappointed when the season gets cancelled. At the is point I will consider having a college football season a nice surprise.

 

[SheltonChoked]

I didn't say they wouldn't. Reread my first line of text, brotha.

I did.

I was just adding to the complication of Joe QB going out and getting a positive test...

 

[Dawgzilla]

MLB has a 101 page Protocol....it just doesn't address what happens if a large number of players on 1 team test positive. Commish has the authority to cancel the season if the integrity of the competition is compromised.

 

[Dawgzilla]

That's what I said back in March. Back in the day, when 1 kid got an infectious disease, like measles or mumps, then some parents would just lump all their kids together so they could get it at the same time. Then they were all immune and the household was done with that disease. We should just do that with the players. And if 1 guy has an undiagnosed respiratory issue and dies, well, he was probably going to die anyway.

 

[fishwater99]

MLB has a 101 page Protocol....it just doesn't address what happens if a large number of players on 1 team test positive. Commish has the authority to cancel the season if the integrity of the competition is compromised.

The MLB protocols are not working. They are canceling games too soon and too many to have a full season.
What is the purpose of the expanded rosters if you don't use them to play games when players have COVID?

 

[Dawgzilla]

I agree the protocols don't seem to be working. I was just responding to the claim that the MLB had no protocol.

 

[philduckworth]

I agree the protocols don't seem to be working. I was just responding to the claim that the MLB had no protocol.

No effective or reasonable protocol.

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

It’s hard to disagree with the OP’s premise. Is there any good reason why CFB can’t be played? Of course not. Anyone who looks objectively at the data knows that these players are not at risk of going to the hospital or dying from the virus.

CFB players are FAR more likely to have to go to the ER for a regular football related injury than any kind of COVID issue, and it’s not even remotely close. If society deems it unsafe for CFB players to play while COVID is going around, how can society possibly consider playing the actual game itself to be safe? But that is another topic for another day...

The issue is there is this ridiculous precedent being set that as soon as anyone tests positive- asymptomatic or not- the whole program/team has to be shut down in quarantined, and any scheduled games must be postponed. Why? It’s nonsensical.

It’s not 17ing dangerous to these guys. At all. I know older people and folks with preexisting conditions need to absolutely take COVID seriously and do everything possible to stay safe. But anyone who thinks that healthy kids or college/pro athletes are in any kind of serious danger from this is either biased or hasn’t looked at the data. Probably both.

I know we are all excited about the announcement yesterday, but this is still not a certainty by any means. It should be, but it’s not.

 

[shotgunDawg]

It’s hard to disagree with the OP’s premise. Is there any good reason why CFB can’t be played? Of course not. Anyone who looks objectively at the data knows that these players are not at risk of going to the hospital or dying from the virus.

CFB players are FAR more likely to have to go to the ER for a regular football related injury than any kind of COVID issue, and it’s not even remotely close. If society deems it unsafe for CFB players to play while COVID is going around, how can society possibly consider playing the actual game itself to be safe? But that is another topic for another day...

The issue is there is this ridiculous precedent being set that as soon as anyone tests positive- asymptomatic or not- the whole program/team has to be shut down in quarantined, and any scheduled games must be postponed. Why? It’s nonsensical.

It’s not 17ing dangerous to these guys. At all. I know older people and folks with preexisting conditions need to absolutely take COVID seriously and do everything possible to stay safe. But anyone who thinks that healthy kids or college/pro athletes are in any kind of serious danger from this is either biased or hasn’t looked at the data. Probably both.

I know we are all excited about the announcement yesterday, but this is still not a certainty by any means. It should be, but it’s not.

All this is correct, but the argument & what's holding everyone back is the fear that the asymptomatic positives will pass the virus to family members or people with pre-existing issues & those people won't be asymptomatic. The legal liability & optics are the issue.

I agree with you. If the asymptomatic players can be quarantined & not at risk of spreading it to symptomatic people, then we need to play

 

[PineGroveBully]

This is just speculation from me and I hope Im wrong but I don’t see them ever finishing the season, 2/3’s of the Marlins have it, 2 Cardinals have tested positive. If this trend continues I can see enough players deciding to opt out to the point that the league shuts it down. That’s the difference in players in this era compared to those that played in the 60’s-80’s, financial security. And I didn’t mean that this era aren’t as tough or they love it any less, but are setup well enough financially that they can afford to not risk it.

 

[shotgunDawg]

Here's what I think college football should do.

Saturday after the game till Wednesday night, college players can live their lives outside of a bubble.

Then Wednesday night, they test & quarantine till after the game. That gives the positive tests 72 hours to test negative.

A 72 hour quarantine each week would give us a chance to get the season in while also lowering the expense of a full bubble

 

[RocketDawg]

A return to athletic dorms with controls on when they come and go would help too. Not sure why they ever got away from athletic dorms anyway.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

It is not “do we play football”. It is “should we play football”.

People better get ready. This thing was released on purpose and it is getting the expected results by the releaser.

There will end up being somewhere around 50 million infected, and about 3/4 million dead from it. If you aren’t ready for that, you might as well stick your head in the sand and hope your rear end doesn’t get infected.

We need A guy with a “particular set of skills to find this thing, and kill it.”

 

[HamSammich]

3-4 million dead?

Na, only unless they fat finger the death count.

Rabid squirrels are killing more humans than this virus.

 

[G-Dawg]

MLB has a 101 page Protocol....it just doesn't address what happens if a large number of players on 1 team test positive. Commish has the authority to cancel the season if the integrity of the competition is compromised.

Why do MLB teams have a taxi squad if they're just going to cancel every time they get a single positive test? What exactly was the point of having a taxi squad??

 

[Bullldawg78]

My response to all of this to throw a monkey wrench in is that the testing has anywhere from a 20-35% false negative rate, which means there are likely mlb players playing right now that actually have it and tested negative, the Sophia test which is the 45minute test we use at my hospital on its package insert says do not use on people with symptoms over 5 days. I assume anyone with cough or fever isn't playing regardless if test results but what about the people who are asymptomatic and get a false negative?

 

[Dawg1976]

Fauci says cv19 will never go away. Teams sports are done forever.