Huggins haters/doubters

.Bodhi.

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I'll give him credit for cutting the dead weight and getting the players with their heads on straight to play well and play inspired. Would you acknowledge that he dropped the ball earlier in the year, though?

Really, do you actually think people here want us to lose so they can come here and say "I told you so"?
 

pic369

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I'll give him credit for cutting the dead weight and getting the players with their heads on straight to play well and play inspired. Would you acknowledge that he dropped the ball earlier in the year, though?

Really, do you actually think people here want us to lose so they can come here and say "I told you so"?
That is exactly what some people do. That’s why you don’t see them posting right now.
 

oceantide83

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Who cares if people don't like Huggins or have doubted him? They still want the team to win, so what is your point in bitching about them?
 

WVUFanForever

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I'll give him credit for cutting the dead weight and getting the players with their heads on straight to play well and play inspired. Would you acknowledge that he dropped the ball earlier in the year, though?

Really, do you actually think people here want us to lose so they can come here and say "I told you so"?
Hindsight is 20/20 of course....but I wondered where we would be if he cut the dead weight sooner.

Maybe playing for an NIT spot with a few more wins? (And I mean that in a good way)

Don't know. Just asking.
 

pic369

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Hindsight is 20/20 of course....but I wondered where we would be if he cut the dead weight sooner.

Maybe playing for an NIT spot with a few more wins? (And I mean that in a good way)

Don't know. Just asking.
We’re playing for one as it is. You don’t have to have a .500 record anymore to get in, and TV audience is a determining factor in the selection process. A good showing against Kansas (or win) and we are at least getting an NIT bid.
 

WVU80ate_rivals

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We’re playing for one as it is. You don’t have to have a .500 record anymore to get in, and TV audience is a determining factor in the selection process. A good showing against Kansas (or win) and we are at least getting an NIT bid.
We won’t get an NIT invite with a losing record.
 

pic369

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We won’t get an NIT invite with a losing record.
I don't expect it, but I'm just saying they've taken that off of the requirements for selection. A run to the finals + Huggins' track record and name value and our fan base can go a long way if it's down to us and a team of similar talent. I say we just win two more games and play in the big dance instead.
 

WVU80ate_rivals

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I don't expect it, but I'm just saying they've taken that off of the requirements for selection. A run to the finals + Huggins' track record and name value and our fan base can go a long way if it's down to us and a team of similar talent. I say we just win two more games and play in the big dance instead.
I might be crazy, but this could be the making of a similar situation WVU experienced in 2005 when we plugged 2 freshmen named White and Slaton into a game late in season. McCabe, Culver, Matthews might be similar. Add Oscar next year and possibly Konate, this team could be top 10.
 

WVUALLEN

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Haven't seen Pride lately. Is he hiding in a cave someplace working on a new profile. Or he's stalking high school boys.
 

EERs 3:16

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It’s a two game winning streak - let’s put down the kool-aid .....

Let’s revisit this topic after the 2019-20 season.
 

.Bodhi.

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It’s a two game winning streak - let’s put down the kool-aid .....

Let’s revisit this topic after the 2019-20 season.
And once again, we see a massive swing in the 2nd half. Yes, the wheels were falling off going into the break. Yes, we're playing with a depleted roster on their third game in three days. Yes, our salary cap is much smaller than kansas'. However, this is not new. We've seen this for years. Poor halftime adjustments, maintaining large leads, remaining composed at the end of games, calls out of timeouts that leave a lot to be desired.

My only want from WVU athletics is to win. I don't who the coach is (provided they're not a criminal). But these are glaring shortcomings that sycophants ignore and come here to thump their chests on the rare occasions (esp this year) when things go well.
 

Pitt4Life34

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We’re playing for one as it is. You don’t have to have a .500 record anymore to get in, and TV audience is a determining factor in the selection process. A good showing against Kansas (or win) and we are at least getting an NIT bid.


You literally just made up “TV audience.........”.
 

skygusty_rivals

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I might be crazy, but this could be the making of a similar situation WVU experienced in 2005 when we plugged 2 freshmen named White and Slaton into a game late in season. McCabe, Culver, Matthews might be similar. Add Oscar next year and possibly Konate, this team could be top 10.
We still need a bench. Need more/better guards and another forward who can hit the three. Center and power forward looks good.
 

muthed

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I might be crazy, but this could be the making of a similar situation WVU experienced in 2005 when we plugged 2 freshmen named White and Slaton into a game late in season. McCabe, Culver, Matthews might be similar. Add Oscar next year and possibly Konate, this team could be top 10.
Nope. Final 4. Pride said.so.
 
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Please check in here... you know who you are


I posted this on January 6th:

"The only problem with this squad is that there isn't one. All of the players have talent but as is so common in this day in collegiate sports, each thinks they are everything and everything should be handed to them by everyone. In olden times a hardnosed coach would drop the hammer on these prima donnas but the age has changed and perhaps, Bob hasn't changed enough to keep pace.

Bob will eventually get the ship righted but not before the heart of Big-12 play and this season will be one of lessons and not wins. Bob is going to have to start that "talk" with himself that perhaps his time to retire has come. I believe there is a lot left in Bob to provide but his recruits have been chequered, with few solid players worthy of the uniform."

I am not a Bob hater and I did have my doubt he was keeping pace with changes to the game, but mostly my doubt was whether or not he was able to put together a team out of skilled players. This, I think, reflects more on his lack of appreciation that it is much harder to make a team out of players that think they are everything then it used to be.

There have always been those that thought they were the second coming, but back in the day, you only had 1 maybe 2 such egotists on the roster. Now it is reversed; only 1 or 2 don't think that.
 

SeronimusPratt

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I might be crazy, but this could be the making of a similar situation WVU experienced in 2005 when we plugged 2 freshmen named White and Slaton into a game late in season. McCabe, Culver, Matthews might be similar. Add Oscar next year and possibly Konate, this team could be top 10.
Nope. Final 4. Pride said.so.

Maybe he meant the B12 tourney final 4?
 

MeBlow

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I'll give him credit for cutting the dead weight and getting the players with their heads on straight to play well and play inspired. Would you acknowledge that he dropped the ball earlier in the year, though?

Really, do you actually think people here want us to lose so they can come here and say "I told you so"?
Yes. Most likely Democrats.
 

.Bodhi.

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4 Big 12 regular season victories.

Clean house of problem veterans. Go to mostly freshmen starters late in season.

Win 2 of 3 Big 12 games and without Konate.

Huggins hasn't lost his magic touch.

This is the reason why you see Huggins "haters." Enough of this sycophant horse ****. And this goes for any coach for any sport. Objectivity would do wonders in curing the "hate" posts.

And I'm sure CFE isn't against railing against players for losses.
 

VaultHunter

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Nothing says told ya so like

Two losing seasons in 6 years

A first round upset as a #3 Seed.

Losing in the Big12 Championship Game 3 times in a row

Winning 3 second round tournament games and getting bounced in the 3rd round

Man everyone doubting Huggins looks so foolish. How dare anyone expect better.
 

oceantide83

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Not sure if anybody remembers, but we were ranked in the top 20 to start the season. That should cause anybody with a rational mind to doubt.
 

WVU80ate_rivals

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Nothing says told ya so like

Two losing seasons in 6 years

A first round upset as a #3 Seed.

Losing in the Big12 Championship Game 3 times in a row

Winning 3 second round tournament games and getting bounced in the 3rd round

Man everyone doubting Huggins looks so foolish. How dare anyone expect better.
those who remember the Gale Catlett years appreciate Huggins. History has proven, it can be much worse.
 

WVUALLEN

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Not sure if anybody remembers, but we were ranked in the top 20 to start the season. That should cause anybody with a rational mind to doubt.

Preseason rankings are based on previous season. How was anyone suppose to know the returning front court players were going to be a cancer and or injured for the entire season.
 

WVUALLEN

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Nothing says told ya so like

Two losing seasons in 6 years

A first round upset as a #3 Seed.

Losing in the Big12 Championship Game 3 times in a row

Winning 3 second round tournament games and getting bounced in the 3rd round

Man everyone doubting Huggins looks so foolish. How dare anyone expect better.

Nothing says hater more than a moron talking **** about Huggins and WVU basketball players. Most fans think they run everything. You don't like it move on.
 

.Bodhi.

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It's one thing to adore Huggins or simply think he's the best coach for WVU. It's another to say that he has a literal magic touch, especially after an objectively poorly managed season.

That's the source of the blowback. You have posters here who think Huggins walks on water. That child-like obeisance toward a coach that is compounded by a readiness to slam players is what irks the "haters."

Speaking for myself, I wouldn't bother posting negative comments about Huggins if the WV media and posters here treated him for what he is...a pretty good coach who has some high and low moments here, luckily more high than low, but should still not be beyond reproach.

How many times do you hear Jay completely blast a player for poor passes, bad shots, weak defense, or bone-headed plays? Every game. And he doesn't go easy on them. How many times do you hear Jay question a play call out of a timeout, an odd substitution, rotation, and most egregiously, ridiculous technicals because Huggins couldn't control his temper?
 

spartansstink

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Nothing says told ya so like

Two losing seasons in 6 years

A first round upset as a #3 Seed.

Losing in the Big12 Championship Game 3 times in a row

Winning 3 second round tournament games and getting bounced in the 3rd round

Man everyone doubting Huggins looks so foolish. How dare anyone expect better.

I get it but who can we get that IS better?

Coach K leaving Duke? Roy Williams leaving UNC? Boeheim leaving Cuse? That's about it. That's all that are better out there by an objective standard.

Wishing it and getting it are two different things. I hate to break it to you but WVU isn't a destination school. Huggins IS the best we can expect.
 

spartansstink

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It's one thing to adore Huggins or simply think he's the best coach for WVU. It's another to say that he has a literal magic touch, especially after an objectively poorly managed season.

That's the source of the blowback. You have posters here who think Huggins walks on water. That child-like obeisance toward a coach that is compounded by a readiness to slam players is what irks the "haters."

Speaking for myself, I wouldn't bother posting negative comments about Huggins if the WV media and posters here treated him for what he is...a pretty good coach who has some high and low moments here, luckily more high than low, but should still not be beyond reproach.

How many times do you hear Jay completely blast a player for poor passes, bad shots, weak defense, or bone-headed plays? Every game. And he doesn't go easy on them. How many times do you hear Jay question a play call out of a timeout, an odd substitution, rotation, and most egregiously, ridiculous technicals because Huggins couldn't control his temper?

That's a fair assessment. That should go for ALL the WVU beat writers, though, and not just Jay. I think you are trying to say that though.