Honest question for the Board

BigLeagueChew

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What qualifies Cohen to be an AD at an SEC with an operating budget of $75,000,000?

Does he have prior administrative experience?
In this day and age, this seems really odd to me especially at an SEC school.
 

FQDawg

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Nothing qualifies him...

He has zero administrative experience.

I've made this point before but there's not another SEC school who would look at his current resume and even give him an interview much less hire him as their AD.

I always figured our over-enthusiasm for a niche sport would come back to bite us but I didn't think it would be this bad.
 

engie

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Cohen's operating budget is in the low-mid $90mil range.

He's a lot more qualified than what is widely known about him, yes. He was at the interview table when Barnhart made hires, when Byrne made hires, and when Stricklin made hires. He's very intertwined with those people -- and was a highly-relied upon consultant throughout those processes.

That said, he's a long way from a guaranteed homerun hire. As is his baseball successor. It could certainly turn into gold -- or it could just as easily turn into a Peter Sirmon kind of deal.

I think the most annoying part of the whole thing -- to me -- is that ever since the Byrne era began with the spurning of Ron Polk, the hiring of Cohen, the firing of Croom, and the hiring of Mullen -- we've spent a ton of time thinking we were on a brand new path toward a bright future. That the "old rules" that governed MSU no longer applied. The last few months have been a ***** slap back to reality on some of that stuff. Midyear AD change -- midyear baseball change(3 weeks from NSD) in a big fundraising time trying to build an unmatched stadium -- zero experience from both guys inheriting those positions -- football tanking -- etc...
 
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aTotal360

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He walked into the Keenum's office and said "I hate Ole Miss", then Keenum pitched him the keys. ***
 

mount lefroy

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What qualifies Cohen to be an AD at an SEC with an operating budget of $75,000,000?

Does he have prior administrative experience?
In this day and age, this seems really odd to me especially at an SEC school.

Probably whatever responsibilities he's been given since they made him an assistant/associate AD. My guess is that if Keenum likes his decision making and he has made those decisions based on Keenums wishes, that is all that he'd need to accomplish to be qualified. Of course there is having a good relationship with current coaches. But it isnt all that necessary.
 

notoriousD_O_G

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Nothing. Our President and board members are big dumb idiots and we are so 17ed. Maybe one day our administration can have the control over the institution that Bjork has. Maybe we could learn to build a strong brand like the University of Ole Miss RebelBearSharks. Until then we are super 17ed and are going to lose at everything.
 
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coach66

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It's a fair question. On paper there are without a doubt more qualified people.

With that said, I believe John knows his way around a P&L statement, understands Marketing, understands fundraising, and is an intense competitor that loves MSU.

Frankly, just like any other executive it's not as much about you as it is who you surround yourself with and are you willing to make changes and tough decisions. He seems capable in that area to me and strikes me
as a solid leader and great communicator.

I'm ok with the hire and really excited about Cannazaro.
 

8dog

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Its anything but odd. He is the third baseball coach to go directly to AD. People say this is typixal state. I actually think typical state thinking would be ruling him out based on a lack of specific experience.
 

patdog

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The other 2 former baseball coaches haven't exactly been smashing successes as athletic directors.
 

8dog

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Bertman oversaw the best run of lsu football in some time if not ever with two nattys. He also hired manieri who has done well.

Tanner hired martin which was a great hire. I just think winning in this region is tough in basketball.
 

HD6

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Tanner did not hire Frank Martin. Martin was hired March of 2012, Tanner took the job July of 2012. Tanner's only Big 3 hire other than his replacement is Will Muschamp.
 

8dog

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So really nothing to judge him on as far as hires. Which is all most people care about. I bet cohen can make hires and make sure the bduget is ok.
 

Sarc Dawg

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With that said, I believe John knows his way around a P&L statement, understands Marketing, understands fundraising, and is an intense competitor that loves MSU.

Frankly, just like any other executive it's not as much about you as it is who you surround yourself with and are you willing to make changes and tough decisions. He seems capable in that area to me and strikes me
as a solid leader and great communicator.

I'm ok with the hire and really excited about Cannazaro.

I think this is spot on. All I want from an AD is a big picture guy who can fundraiser, demand accountability, and be a face of the department. It's not like he is making every decision for every sport. There seems to be a billion associate AD's who do that. As far as coaching hires go- haven't we used a consulting firm to find the last few? Except for selecting the consultant the only other decision the AD has to make is probably which of the final few candidates fits the personality of the school and major boosters and will come to MSU for x amount of money.
 

o_fredgarvin

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Keep in mind that two of his assistants have become head coaches in the SEC. That tells me he is good at identifying coaching talent and developing that talent at the highest level.
 

Junction John

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Honest question: right now, today - would you choose Cohen or Bjork to lead an athletic department going forward?

Not all experience is good experience.
 

dawgface

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this should have been a reply to the 1s post at the top...sorry!

it's just a younger version of same good ol' boys' BS to me. i've been around too long and i've lost confidence in keenum too. it's probably best if i just keep quiet. i'll just be pissed off to myself for awhile...that is all.
 

olblue.sixpack

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Honest question: right now, today - would you choose Cohen or Bjork to lead an athletic department going forward?

Not all experience is good experience.

Bjork was in over his head at WKU. Can't believe he parlayed his common job performance there into a SEC job.
 

Junction John

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Hang in there, buddy.

I think you'll look back one day and think, maybe this wasn't such a bad couple of moves after all.

Have faith - there are guys who know what they are doing up there.