Hillary's support is collapsing
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Without the media's help Hillary would be down double digits. Anyone that can't see that fact is as blind as a bat.
My God. She really is just a terrible candidate and person. Why oh why couldn't the DNC have put forth someone better than that old *****. If he ends up winning this thing, I'm going to hope to hell A. She retires from politics and B. The DNC can bring forth someone with a clue to beat his *** in 20'
There's option C. Heart attack while boning Melania and Pence becoming President.
I would hope that we have two to three good candidates to choose from in 2020. Both of these two are going to be divisive during their term...people are expecting change (on both sides) and none of them are going to be happy...I don't think Hillary is going to go all 'left' on us and I don't think Donald can deliver on his promises...so that means there will be a lot of pissed off people...so then what?
? My point being we aren't voting for student council president, a president is not a dictator, personally I want a moderate liberal to appoint the next supreme court justices, disagree with the GOPs xenophobia and bat **** immigration ideas, disagree with their abortion platform and I also don't want the embarrassment that is Donald trump to be the face of America, easy choice.
It's not the leader that is dividing the country. It's the people that are divided. We have different values and beliefs. Nothing will change that, regardless of who is in office.
BS...a leader can bring people together even with opposing views...we have a leader right now that chooses to accentuate one over the other and pit them against one another
Gotcha, Dems will suddenly fall in love with the Republican platform and vice-versa, if we just had the right person in office. [winking]
Well, Reagan and Clinton did a good job of it. Bush was ok at working with the other side, Obama not at all. There was give and take with everyone prior to Obama. He's been all take and no give.
If you disagree, feel free to point out where he has attempted to compromise.
This aint the 80s or 90s and you have completely different Congresses. There are extreme groups out there, aka, the Tea Party hijacking the Republican party. You have a Congress refusing to even give consideration to a Supreme Court nominee. Blaming Obama is extremely disingenuous.
Remind me again of Obama's attempts at compromise? All I recall is divisive speech, finger pointing, and vilification coming from him after he so brazenly proclaimed "elections have consequences". Leaders lead and know how to work with the other side as evidenced by the aforementioned Presidents. Obama, plays Chicago politics. It's his responsibility to lead, not manage. It's an indictment of his arrogance and his inexperience.
There were no extremist groups influencing congress in the 80's and 90's? You really need to read more.
Try better reading comprehension. I didn't say anything about anyone influencing Congress. I made two distinct points. 1) This is a different Congress. 2) This Congress is so different than any other that the Republican party basically made a split a few years ago with the formation of the Tea Party. This is further evidenced by the fact different Republicans were blaming each other for the government shutdown.
And your point is Obama is divisive yet Congress won't hold hearings on his Supreme Court nominee. Yeah, we get it. And Congress voted 50-some times or 60-some times (lost track of the count) to try to overturn the Affordable Care Act. Congress spent millions and two years investigating Benghazi, but Obama is divisive. [pfftt] Wake up dude.
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I dont see any democrats pushing for the hearings. Clinton isnt pushing for it
Please show me one item where Obama has tried to work across the aisle. Just one. One example in 7.5 years should be pretty easy to find. JFC he never even granted an interview with FNC until last April. That's over 7 years. You have to be kidding me.
You all blaming this on Congress is laughable. Sure, they play a part in it, but you can't even admit he has failed at the obvious. It's why you all can't be taken seriously in any discussion, you are incapable of being objective. No different that the damn Trump supporters.
You realize the ACA had to pass both houses of Congress?
Every spending bill gets vetted through both Houses and signed into law by the President. There's 8 examples off the top of my head.
How many gun reform bills have been signed into law during his administration?
Twenty children gunned down and Congress does absolutely nothing in response.
Who is the obstructionist. Please. You look very foolish.
President hasn't signed 8 budgets.
The ACA was passed with DEMOCRATIC majorities.
Why did we need to have more gun reform bills?
Who said, "elections have consequences" when meeting with the opposing party.
The Democrats idea of "compromise" is Republicans doing whatever the Democrats want.
Are you lazy, just stupid, or think I am?
So after you use google and realize you still haven't provided a valid response, you might be able to start understanding reality. I mean I get it, you work in Gov't , so you don't really understand leadership, leadership is a smidge different that just being "senior".
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Just like the military doesn't conduct cyber warfare. You conservatives don't know facts when they slap you in the face.
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He has signed 7 of them into law. You do understand the appropriations process, right? From your post, it sure doesn't look like it.
He signed the 2009 budget. Nancy and Harry would not sign the budget Bush offered. Obama then gave us a deficit for Fiscal 2009 of $1.4+ trillion. Liberals say that was the last GWB budget year and therefore Bush is tagged with that overly excessive spending, but Bush had nothing to do with that amount of spending. It was controlled by Nancy in House, Harry in Senate, and Obama in Administration as president.
I'm not sure what is more sad, your attempts at trying to salvage your stupidity by attempting to redirect the conversation or your inability to accurately recall a single instance where the President has compromised with the other side. Oh, we get it, it's because Congress, and racists, and oh yea, 7.5 years in and it's still Bush's fault.