HCMR vs HCMR

[God_zilla]

HCMR has 111 wins and 99 losses (.531 win percentage)

HCMR has 64 wins and 58 losses (.521 win percentage)

The one with the .531 win % is named Mike Riley who was terrible.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

We would have won multiple national championships with Mike Riley if only Eichonworst wasn’t micromanaging him into doing stupid stuff.

 

[DrAlan_Grant]

When you look it at it that way, its ******.

 

[BugsAreQualityProtein]

Mike Riley was also a “nice guy”.

 

[mgbreeze]

I don't get the genius angle on this post OP. The fact is Rhule drastically improved Temple and Baylor during those short stays and didn't stay to reap the benefit of improving his winning % over multiple seasons. Do you think his % would be higher if he'd stayed at Baylor for 10 years? I do. Will he improve Nebraska similarly? I don't know, but I know he's better than Mike Riley.

 

[Huskers+123]

I don't get the genius angle on this post OP. The fact is Rhule drastically improved Temple and Baylor during those short stays and didn't stay to reap the benefit of improving his winning % over multiple seasons. Do you think his % would be higher if he'd stayed at Baylor for 10 years? I do. Will he improve Nebraska similarly? I don't know, but I know he's better than Mike Riley.

He has his "facts". Please do not confuse this misleading argument with additional facts!

Everybody knows he's better than Riley.

 

[God_zilla]

He has his "facts". Please do not confuse this misleading argument with additional facts!

Everybody knows he's better than Riley.

They are facts

 

[king_kong__]

I don't get the genius angle on this post OP. The fact is Rhule drastically improved Temple and Baylor during those short stays and didn't stay to reap the benefit of improving his winning % over multiple seasons. Do you think his % would be higher if he'd stayed at Baylor for 10 years? I do. Will he improve Nebraska similarly? I don't know, but I know he's better than Mike Riley.

Temple won more games in the 4 years prior to Rhule's arrival than they did in the 4 years Rhule was there
Baylor won more games in the 3 years prior to Rhule's arrival than they did in the 3 years Rhule was there

"drastically improved". the only person in the Matt Rhule universe who earns their paycheck is his publicist

 

[Huskers+123]

They are facts

Duh. I'm aware they are facts. That's why I said "ADDITIONAL facts"...
I could have said more important facts, or better facts, or the rest of the story.

Again, we all know he's better than Riley.

 

[WHCSC]

How many Gray Cups did Rhule win?

 

[God_zilla]

Duh. I'm aware they are facts. That's why I said "ADDITIONAL facts"...
I could have said more important facts, or better facts, or the rest of the story.

Again, we all know he's better than Riley.

You said “his facts”

When it reality it is “the facts “

 

[BugsAreQualityProtein]

This thread just reminded me that Nebraska hasn’t had an actual quality win since 2015 against MSU. A team that competed in the CFP and finished 6th in the AP poll. Oregon in 2016 was ranked 22nd but finished unranked with a record of 4-8.

 

[HuskerO58]

Temple won more games in the 4 years prior to Rhule's arrival than they did in the 4 years Rhule was there
Baylor won more games in the 3 years prior to Rhule's arrival than they did in the 3 years Rhule was there

"drastically improved". the only person in the Matt Rhule universe who earns their paycheck is his publicist

Cripes, why do you do this every time?

Rhule had to deal with some incredible hard sanctions that were thrown down on Baylor that Briles didn't have to deal with during his successful run.

 

[gaper]

Cripes, why do you do this every time?

Rhule had to deal with some incredible hard sanctions that were thrown down on Baylor that Briles didn't have to deal with during his successful run.

And at temple? Or in Carolina? Two all pro qbs on his roster weren’t enough?

 

[cubsker15]

Temple won more games in the 4 years prior to Rhule's arrival than they did in the 4 years Rhule was there
Baylor won more games in the 3 years prior to Rhule's arrival than they did in the 3 years Rhule was there

"drastically improved". the only person in the Matt Rhule universe who earns their paycheck is his publicist

They were in the MAC 3 of those 4 years.

 

[mgbreeze]

They were in the MAC 3 of those 4 years.

And coming off a 4-7 year when Rhule took over. It doesn't matter, there's no point discussing context with the types that hate Rhule.

 

[Spectrumalaska]

You seem quite desperate

 

[Baxter48]

Riley was given a decent roster and had only one winning season, Rhule was given a dumpster fire and had a winning record his second season. There is no comparison Riley sucked

 

[God_zilla]

Riley was given a decent roster and had only one winning season, Rhule was given a dumpster fire and had a winning record his second season. There is no comparison Riley sucked

so Pelini was a good recruiter?

 

[Spinner4]

They were in the MAC 3 of those 4 years.

And if you don’t count Matt’s losses, he was undefeated his career.

Cubsker follows the great philosophy of 8th inning 1987 Harry Caray after a dozen Bud Lights.

everything is just a little bit better if you move numbers around or change stats

shawn dunston is a .750 hitter when looking at Tuesday day games against guys with a beard

 

[redwine65]

hip hip hooray

 

[cubsker15]

And coming off a 4-7 year when Rhule took over. It doesn't matter, there's no point discussing context with the types that hate Rhule.

Im not a Rhule guy but I am a logic guy.

 

[OxfordComma]

I don't get the genius angle on this post OP. The fact is Rhule drastically improved Temple and Baylor during those short stays and didn't stay to reap the benefit of improving his winning % over multiple seasons. Do you think his % would be higher if he'd stayed at Baylor for 10 years? I do. Will he improve Nebraska similarly? I don't know, but I know he's better than Mike Riley.

That is evidence of him finding or inheriting a few actual playmakers, and that was enough to make a splash at a lower level. Especially at Temple, where he banked his only career wins against ranked teams a decade ago. He is sill 0 for his career against ranked teams from P4/P5 conferences.

It is not evidence of ability to coach his way to a winning conference record in the B1G. And that is a benchmark that I want our coach to achieve in most years. There are reasons to give a pass: a really tough conference schedule, bad injury luck, new coach still pulling it together, a mulligan for any other reason.

 

[cubsker15]

I have to say Im more disappointed in Dana than I am Rhule this year.

 

[king_kong__]

They were in the MAC 3 of those 4 years.

Yea. And in Rhule’s first bowl game at temple a MAC team (Toledo) blew them out.

 

[Truewooper]

Cripes, why do you do this every time?

Rhule had to deal with some incredible hard sanctions that were thrown down on Baylor that Briles didn't have to deal with during his successful run.

And I think Temple moved up to the American. Which was and is considered a more difficult conference

 

[Anon1756440239]

HCMR has 111 wins and 99 losses (.531 win percentage)

HCMR has 64 wins and 58 losses (.521 win percentage)

The one with the .531 win % is named Mike Riley who was terrible.

No you don’t get it, one time HCMR won a handful of games in weak conference and also failed in the NFL

 

[Anon1756440239]

I don't get the genius angle on this post OP. The fact is Rhule drastically improved Temple and Baylor during those short stays and didn't stay to reap the benefit of improving his winning % over multiple seasons. Do you think his % would be higher if he'd stayed at Baylor for 10 years? I do. Will he improve Nebraska similarly? I don't know, but I know he's better than Mike Riley.

“If you consider these made up what-if scenarios you’ll see I’m right and you’re wrong”

is this a serious argument?

 

[HuskerBruce81]

I don't care. Riley should have had the stones to tell Eichorst he wasnt firing Banker. He didn't. The head scratching losses we are getting accustomed to, started with him and has continued. We fired Riley after 3 seasons for it. We fired our own 3 games in his 4th for it. If the wheels fall off we should fire Rhule for it. 3 man front is the Big......ha. Kong can say whatever he wants about the Big, and he has a point it is fairly weak conference. Always has been post 1960. But you can't win games in the Big if you are afraid of throwing blows. We are soft. Nebraska. Football. Is. Soft. And I don't know if I've ever seen it any softer here.

 

[redwine65]

*1
*2
bo
2008 9-4
2009 10-4
2010 10-4
2011 9-4
2012 10-4
2013 9-4
2014 9-3

riley (the 2nd descent)
2015 6-7
2016 9-4
2017 4-8 no bowl

frost (the abyss/neptune factor/hell)
2018 4-8 no bowl
2019 5-7 no bowl
2020 3-5 no bowl
2021 3-9 no bowl
2022 4-8 no bowl

rhule (the 2nd ascent/new life/civilization/hope)
2023 5-7 no bowl
2024 7-6
2025 5-2

*1 the 1st accent was the 50's to devany
*2 the 1st descent was from dr. tom to solich
disclaimer: I don't know much about leather helmet time, or reynolds

 

[Redscarlet]

I don't care. Riley should have had the stones to tell Eichorst he wasnt firing Banker. He didn't. The head scratching losses we are getting accustomed to, started with him and has continued. We fired Riley after 3 seasons for it. We fired our own 3 games in his 4th for it. If the wheels fall off we should fire Rhule for it. 3 man front is the Big......ha. Kong can say whatever he wants about the Big, and he has a point it is fairly weak conference. Always has been post 1960. But you can't win games in the Big if you are afraid of throwing blows. We are soft. Nebraska. Football. Is. Soft. And I don't know if I've ever seen it any softer here.

We were soft as Charmin under Riley.

Not seeing why we have a post of comparing Rhule to Riley. A lot different circumstances.

 

[Zeke Husker]

I don't care. Riley should have had the stones to tell Eichorst he wasnt firing Banker. He didn't. The head scratching losses we are getting accustomed to, started with him and has continued. We fired Riley after 3 seasons for it. We fired our own 3 games in his 4th for it. If the wheels fall off we should fire Rhule for it. 3 man front is the Big......ha. Kong can say whatever he wants about the Big, and he has a point it is fairly weak conference. Always has been post 1960. But you can't win games in the Big if you are afraid of throwing blows. We are soft. Nebraska. Football. Is. Soft. And I don't know if I've ever seen it any softer here.

They have been soft since 2015. And Rhule’s remarks about being entitled, just show up and win….well that carries back decades but the difference is they used to put in the work and had such an advantage that they could basically show up on Saturdays and win. Players have said they used to go at each other so hard in practice that game days were the easiest ones of the week. Rhule is right you can go in thinking this will be easy just because you’ve won a couple of games in a row.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

The "rebuild" mantra is so stupid.

Indiana was the worst team in D1 history and look at them.

Look at lame *** iowa, that coach has been there for like 25 years and I don't think has ever won double digit games in a season.

This weird "rebuild" idea needs to go away. You either are good at coaching/winning or you are not.

 

[DrAlan_Grant]

The "rebuild" mantra is so stupid.

Indiana was the worst team in D1 history and look at them.

Look at lame *** iowa, that coach has been there for like 25 years and I don't think has ever won double digit games in a season.

This weird "rebuild" idea needs to go away. You either are good at coaching/winning or you are not.

Ferentz has 8 double digit seasons.

Iowa has 11 total.

Ferentz Is both somehow Their best coach ever, and yet Very Bo Pelini like minus the yelling. I'd say Iowa has settled, but no, that is their ceiling I imagine without a Curt Cignetti type hire, which I don't see happening.

And they still have had our number....

 

[cubsker15]

The "rebuild" mantra is so stupid.

Indiana was the worst team in D1 history and look at them.

Look at lame *** iowa, that coach has been there for like 25 years and I don't think has ever won double digit games in a season.

This weird "rebuild" idea needs to go away. You either are good at coaching/winning or you are not.

I generally think you get one year. After that, especially in the transfer portal era, it's on you.

 

[God_zilla]

We were soft as Charmin under Riley.

Not seeing why we have a post of comparing Rhule to Riley. A lot different circumstances.

Have you seen our line?

 

[4.6.3]

Riley was given a decent roster and had only one winning season, Rhule was given a dumpster fire and had a winning record his second season. There is no comparison Riley sucked

How many linebackers were on the first year roster? Did Rhule have to deal with a bunch of idiot boosters, fans, and players that worked against him from day 1?

 

[4.6.3]

I don't care. Riley should have had the stones to tell Eichorst he wasnt firing Banker. He didn't. The head scratching losses we are getting accustomed to, started with him and has continued. We fired Riley after 3 seasons for it. We fired our own 3 games in his 4th for it. If the wheels fall off we should fire Rhule for it. 3 man front is the Big......ha. Kong can say whatever he wants about the Big, and he has a point it is fairly weak conference. Always has been post 1960. But you can't win games in the Big if you are afraid of throwing blows. We are soft. Nebraska. Football. Is. Soft. And I don't know if I've ever seen it any softer here.

Revisionist history. Every knuckle dragging cleti member wanted Banker gone. The problem was the corresponding hire was worse. Just like when TO had drunken Moos hire Frost. Worst coach in program history

 

[SuperBigFan69]

Revisionist history. Every knuckle dragging cleti member wanted Banker gone. The problem was the corresponding hire was worse. Just like when TO had drunken Moos hire Frost. Worst coach in program history

No they didn't. Banker had a pretty good D (run D especially) the year he was canned.

You fall for so much crap, it is amazing. I bet you still believe that Moos was always drunk at the local bars in Lincoln...again, like Frost, but still no pictures of anything.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

Riley was given a decent roster and had only one winning season, Rhule was given a dumpster fire and had a winning record his second season. There is no comparison Riley sucked