Has Pike given up?

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Ever since he signed the extension I don’t think he’s put the same effort into to coaching the team. Last year he manages to have a losing season with two lottery picks? This year we look like the worst coached team in d-1 basketball.

If he is just collecting a pay check it’s tough because we don’t have the money to fire him. Brutal to see a guy you are playing $4 million a year put little to no effort into developing the team .
 

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Maybe we get a new year’s wish and he announces he’s stepping down after the season
 
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RU-ROCS

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The most inept RU offense since the nadir of the Eddie Jordan coaching era!
 

Rutgers25

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How big of a loss was Karl Hobbs? Feel like things haven’t been the same since he left.

this team has somehow fallen below my very low expectations. Talent is not even mid-major.
I thought the program was dead during the EJ era and didn’t believe it could be revived. Pike, to his credit revived it, but things have come full circle. Back to being a dead program…
 
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I don’t know if he has given up, but he appears to be a broken, shell of himself. I have heard some rumblings from people close to him—- and get the vibe that he is miserable with this new landscape of college basketball.

Would not be surprised if he steps down after this year. Financially, would be silly of him— but I think he is sick of this new world.
 

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I don’t know if he has given up, but he appears to be a broken, shell of himself. I have heard some rumblings from people close to him—- and get the vibe that he is miserable with this new landscape of college basketball.

Would not be surprised if he steps down after this year. Financially, would be silly of him— but I think he is sick of this new world.
I would think he'd negotiate some middle ground with the school and leave by mutual consent.

Honestly it's probably what's fair and for the best at this point.
 

rpiseman

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no he has not given up, he’s always been a fierce competitor and proud man. he’s likely very disappointed in his recent performance, and somewhat bitter that he’s forced to play on an unlevel court.
He had two lottery picks last year and did nothing to build a roster around them. Before you blame Hobbs, Schiano at least raised some money and tried to build a roster. Pike looks like he’s just thrown his hands up and said I don’t like college basketball anymore.
 

Rutgers25

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I don’t know if he has given up, but he appears to be a broken, shell of himself. I have heard some rumblings from people close to him—- and get the vibe that he is miserable with this new landscape of college basketball.

Would not be surprised if he steps down after this year. Financially, would be silly of him— but I think he is sick of this new world.

well, the comment on the 36 year old was clearly a sign of frustration with the state of the game in general.
 
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My $ 02 is that Pike would thrive and be successful at an Ivy or similar type enviroment, and there is nothing wrong with him being frustrated and fed up with this new landscape.

Not that it matters in the big picture, but from speaking with peers many "boomers" are feeling the same way. Hence, we have to accept it or "punt"

another reason it sucks getting old :LOL:
 

Knight Shift

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He had two lottery picks last year and did nothing to build a roster around them. Before you blame Hobbs, Schiano at least raised some money and tried to build a roster. Pike looks like he’s just thrown his hands up and said I don’t like college basketball anymore.
I wish this crappy little narrative would end already. Blah, blah, blah, Schiano. His team still sucked eggs last year, but he is lauded as some sort of god, while Pike is the anti-Christ. Fact is, Greg has been around Rutgers a lot longer and had a deeper list of contacts to work from. Maybe he could have spent some more time on transfer portal evaluations on defense instead of putting that joke of a defense on the field for 12 games. You don't know anything about what Pike did. He tried.

Keyboard warriors spewing hate towards a guy who has had the modern era of basketball pass him "buy" with no help from his AD or Rutgers.

Rutgers could not even get him a GM, while Schiano's staff got more and more bloated while Pisari was in charge And Schiano's team still stunk it up last year. But not a peep from the Schianoites who think he is wonderful.

"I used to do 70% basketball, 30% events and going places. It's probably flipped. It's probably 30% now and 70% figuring out this landscape, which is changing every day. The rules are changing every day on how to navigate this landscape. It's nothing I have all the answers for. If I have them on a Tuesday, the next time I am on a Zoom, the next Tuesday, I find out to forget about that rule."

"I have to do a really good job of navigating the obstacles of having enough money in the collective and in the settlement and in the rev share," he said. "…It's hard to navigate. I want to get a GM. I am into the GM role. I think we need that. I know I need that."

And when will that occur?

"We are in the process of finding one soon," Pikiell said. "I don't know when it's going to be posted. Most places have done that three years ago, so we're behind in that area. I know, personally, it would help me a great deal."

 

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Given that Pike is looking at a 25 year old pro as a midseason addition, it doesn’t seem he has quit, but the game seems to have passed him by. In an era where analytics tells you 3 point shooting is critical to winning consistently, he still puts out teams that can’t shoot, particularly from distance, and also doesn’t defend the 3 point line well. I don’t even think he would win at a lower level at this point, he should probably just hang it up.
 

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Given that Pike is looking at a 25 year old pro as a midseason addition, it doesn’t seem he has quit, but the game seems to have passed him by. In an era where analytics tells you 3 point shooting is critical to winning consistently, he still puts out teams that can’t shoot, particularly from distance, and also doesn’t defend the 3 point line well. I don’t even think he would win at a lower level at this point, he should probably just hang it up.
He would do well at a service academy. About as close to the "old way" as you can get.
 
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I don't hate Pike but it is fair to say that last season was an epic failure. "He tried?" Well, I would hope so. But this is a results-based endeavor.

Yes, we need a GM. But it is year 10 and this is probably going to be his worst season. I would love to be wrong and see us win 7+ conference games. I don't see that happening.
 

Knight Shift

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I don't hate Pike but it is fair to say that last season was an epic failure. "He tried?" Well, I would hope so. But this is a results-based endeavor.

Yes, we need a GM. But it is year 10 and this is probably going to be his worst season. I would love to be wrong and see us win 7+ conference games. I don't see that happening.
It's year 2 of the NIL era, a tectonic shift in the landscape.

Not a Calipari fan, but he lays it out, as have others he mentions. College sports sucks right now. It has lost its appeal. Meanwhile the NCAA is fiddling, watching it burn.

Nero's
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RUDiddy777

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I don’t know if he has given up, but he appears to be a broken, shell of himself. I have heard some rumblings from people close to him—- and get the vibe that he is miserable with this new landscape of college basketball.

Would not be surprised if he steps down after this year. Financially, would be silly of him— but I think he is sick of this new world.

I think that really came across in the post game. “Yeah, we’re looking for a 36 year old with 4 kids who needs a job”.
 
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RUDiddy777

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no he has not given up, he’s always been a fierce competitor and proud man. he’s likely very disappointed in his recent performance, and somewhat bitter that he’s forced to play on an unlevel court.

He dragged an underfunded dumpster fire to relevance, and they changed the rules so we’re an underfunded dumpster fire all over again.
 

RUDiddy777

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He had two lottery picks last year and did nothing to build a roster around them. Before you blame Hobbs, Schiano at least raised some money and tried to build a roster. Pike looks like he’s just thrown his hands up and said I don’t like college basketball anymore.

Schiano was 2-7 in conference this season. Let’s not act like football isn’t just as f-ed as basketball in this new landscape.
 

rpiseman

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Schiano was 2-7 in conference this season. Let’s not act like football isn’t just as f-ed as basketball in this new landscape.
Football is not in good shape but at least Schiano can be deemed as trying. I think Pike just gave up and figured I’ll take $25 million to do Jack 💩
 
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knight82

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I would think he'd negotiate some middle ground with the school and leave by mutual consent.

Honestly it's probably what's fair and for the best at this point.
agree 100%. I know what it's like to drag yourself to a job you hate every day. Been there. But that's a lot of money to leave on the table. Would Keli be open to negotiate?
 

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Pike is the guy who did well in a job his first few years, and then didn't. It's not that he is coasting and not putting in effort, he hasn't adapted to his surroundings. Some coaches decided this new world isn't for them, others haven't.

It's stupid and lazy to just blame lack of NIL. It's what you've done with it. Pike did have 2 top 5 picks fall from the sky, and his roster construction and coaching was fireable. Schiano is perceived as doing more with NIL, but he crapped the bed with his lazy hiring of Smith at DC and cost the offense this year big time. Ok, so maybe he got more players, but he and the idiot Smith and defensive staff screwed the pooch and became a square peg in round hole...let's see how we do in portal and coaching search this year.

Face it, we have average coaches at best in the 2 top revenue sports that have not shown they have figured out roster construction, NIL, and coaching to maximize their team's talents. Yet each gets paid that they can doe these things.

It's why I completely disagree that simply giving them more NIL/revenue-sharing monies is the answer--in fact, I think, it's penny-wise and pound-foolish.
 
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T2Kplus20

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I don’t know if he has given up, but he appears to be a broken, shell of himself. I have heard some rumblings from people close to him—- and get the vibe that he is miserable with this new landscape of college basketball.

Would not be surprised if he steps down after this year. Financially, would be silly of him— but I think he is sick of this new world.
The game changed on him. Pike was a good coach under the old system, but NIL is a different animal and he's incapable of adapting. It's time to turn the page.
 

Knight Shift

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this will sound like a joke but im serious when I say that outside of OSU and Oregon it was a competitive and even entertaining 2-7.
Know you referred to just the B1G record but:
Nearly lost to Ohio- huge negative
Washington was was a total debacle-not a shred of competitiveness there.
Battling Purdue for the bottom of the septic tank was not entertaining and nothing to celebrate.
Throttled by Illinois- not seeing any competitiveness there.
Penn State was awful.

Still would love to see him explain in detail his failure to return the very large majority of punts and kickoffs.
Will never understand why people say: "Yeah, but Greg. . . . "
 

Rutgers25

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Know you referred to just the B1G record but:
Nearly lost to Ohio- huge negative
Washington was was a total debacle-not a shred of competitiveness there.
Battling Purdue for the bottom of the septic tank was not entertaining and nothing to celebrate.
Throttled by Illinois- not seeing any competitiveness there.
Penn State was awful.

Still would love to see him explain in detail his failure to return the very large majority of punts and kickoffs.
Will never understand why people say: "Yeah, but Greg. . . . "

you are right, if Greg doesn’t hold on to 2 of the 3 (KJ, Strong and Raymond) and doesn’t fix the defense then he’ll be on the hot seat next year. There is more patience right now because the narrative is that we have more NIL, will hold on to at least 2 of the big 3 and that AJ is the real deal.

with Pike there is no semblance of a plan or narrative that makes people feel there is a chance things turn around.
 

RUDiddy777

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Pike is the guy who did well in a job his first few years, and then didn't. It's not that he is coasting and not putting in effort, he hasn't adapted to his surroundings. Some coaches decided this new world isn't for them, others haven't.

It's stupid and lazy to just blame lack of NIL. It's what you've done with it. Pike did have 2 top 5 picks fall from the sky, and his roster construction and coaching was fireable. Schiano is perceived as doing more with NIL, but he crapped the bed with his lazy hiring of Smith at DC and cost the offense this year big time. Ok, so maybe he got more players, but he and the idiot Smith and defensive staff screwed the pooch and became a square peg in round hole...let's see how we do in portal and coaching search this year.

Face it, we have average coaches at best in the 2 top revenue sports that have not shown they have figured out roster construction, NIL, and coaching to maximize their team's talents. Yet each gets paid that they can doe these things.

It's why I completely disagree that simply giving them more NIL/revenue-sharing monies is the answer--in fact, I think, it's penny-wise and pound-foolish.

The average Big Ten mbb team is estimated to spend 8.5 million per roster between NIL and revenue share (about 5.5 mil NIL). We pull that average down. We can and will catch up - but both Greg and Steve have been competing with both hands tied behind their backs. Both are good coaches - not great coaches - but we also don’t have money for great coaches either.
 
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I wish this crappy little narrative would end already. Blah, blah, blah, Schiano. His team still sucked eggs last year, but he is lauded as some sort of god, while Pike is the anti-Christ. Fact is, Greg has been around Rutgers a lot longer and had a deeper list of contacts to work from. Maybe he could have spent some more time on transfer portal evaluations on defense instead of putting that joke of a defense on the field for 12 games. You don't know anything about what Pike did. He tried.

Keyboard warriors spewing hate towards a guy who has had the modern era of basketball pass him "buy" with no help from his AD or Rutgers.

Rutgers could not even get him a GM, while Schiano's staff got more and more bloated while Pisari was in charge And Schiano's team still stunk it up last year. But not a peep from the Schianoites who think he is wonderful.

"I used to do 70% basketball, 30% events and going places. It's probably flipped. It's probably 30% now and 70% figuring out this landscape, which is changing every day. The rules are changing every day on how to navigate this landscape. It's nothing I have all the answers for. If I have them on a Tuesday, the next time I am on a Zoom, the next Tuesday, I find out to forget about that rule."

"I have to do a really good job of navigating the obstacles of having enough money in the collective and in the settlement and in the rev share," he said. "…It's hard to navigate. I want to get a GM. I am into the GM role. I think we need that. I know I need that."

And when will that occur?

"We are in the process of finding one soon," Pikiell said. "I don't know when it's going to be posted. Most places have done that three years ago, so we're behind in that area. I know, personally, it would help me a great deal."

Then resign. He had top 5 NBA lottery picks and didn't finish above .500 he is finished here. No NIL is suddenly changing things. We are going through the motions as a program. Pull the plug and just start over.
 

Knight Shift

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you are right, if Greg doesn’t hold on to 2 of the 3 (KJ, Strong and Raymond) and doesn’t fix the defense then he’ll be on the hot seat next year. There is more patience right now because the narrative is that we have more NIL, will hold on to at least 2 of the big 3 and that AJ is the real deal.

with Pike there is no semblance of a plan or narrative that makes people feel there is a chance things turn around.
Before Keli Zinn arrived, does anyone know what his NIL budget was and how much he spent? I'm certainly not lobbying for the guy to be retained. On the other hand, if Greg's excuse is he should be given another chance with additional resources, why shouldn't the same logic apply to Pikiell? Because Greg raised some money on his own and still failed to produce? Maybe I misunderstood, I thought I read/saw that both would be given a chance with additional "resources." Not sure how he wound up with this motley crew of players, and how many passed on Rutgers because there were not enough $$$$.
 

Knight Shift

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Then resign. He had top 5 NBA lottery picks and didn't finish above .500 he is finished here. No NIL is suddenly changing things. We are going through the motions as a program. Pull the plug and just start over.
2 great players do not make a basketball team. Did he have money for a big man or didn't he? Actually, enough NIL to get better players would probably change things. Isn't that the same case Greg has made on defense for football?
 
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2 great players do not make a basketball team. Did he have money for a big man or didn't he? Actually, enough NIL to get better players would probably change things. Isn't that the same case Greg has made on defense for football?
I hate the argument that it's everyone else's fault except the CEO of the program. That goes for football too. I don't care if we fire Pike or retain him but I sincerely doubt we suddenly see an uptick as a basketball team if we get even average NIL for hoops.
 

RUDiddy777

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I hate the argument that it's everyone else's fault except the CEO of the program. That goes for football too. I don't care if we fire Pike or retain him but I sincerely doubt we suddenly see an uptick as a basketball team if we get even average NIL for hoops.

I don’t think anyone rational would say that. Pike whiffed on roster construction last year. But you’re too knowledgeable to at least acknowledge it’s a big challenge. We’re basically a small market team competing against a league filled with Yankees. (And maybe an expansion team since we had little history of winning in revenue sports until your Greg 1.0 teams).
 

wheezer

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Pike called a,timeout inside the last minute with the game decided

There was no need to do so, other than teach or instruct
A very small example that there is some desire to make things better
when he could have just let the clock run
 

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Based on what I have read on his college playing days & his overall background - don't think giving up is in his DNA. Maybe his faults are staying too loyal to his staff & not bringing in the proper Assistants to run a modern day offense. I get the fact he has players that can't shoot - but he has no system either. It's sad to watch & predictable.
 

shields

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Penn State game was awful? Yes we lost but moved the ball at will versus them. Was shocked we gained over 500 yards. Raymond had 180 plus yards. Need players on defense.
 
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I think those giving Pike a pass and blaming NIL are missing the big picture. He was declining before NIL with a LOT of recruiting misses. After Mag got hurt he lost the team, and some would say “bless the rains” the whole program. Lost to Hofstra in the NIT. Then didn’t make it. Then didn’t make it with two lottery picks. Now his worst team in a decade and one of the worst in recent memories. It’s not all the fault of the changing landscape as some of you say, but that did magnify the problem.