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Unreal. You are not smart here. I see what you are doing. You could have posted this tomorrow, but you chose today....hmm....wonder why? Oh yeah, it's MLK Day. But, let's celebrate a traitor who defied his nation (I know, he didn't want to secede and didn't support slavery.....but guess what.....he still seceded and defended slavery by taking up arms). You are despicable.....
And FYI, General Winfield Scott would take the claim of "Greatest General" ever.
Gen Patton was the greatest. Only general to ever attack in all four directions. He was the greatest.
Aside from the fact that Grant, Sherman, Pershing, Marshall, Eisenhower, and MacArthur all were better generals, it's too bad he thought more about defending his "native state" than the nation that had educated him and given him the route to a career that allowed him to provide for his family. If he had been as honorable as Southerners love to worship him for being, he would have retired and sat out the war.
[roll][roll][roll]You and mneilmont....two racist morons longing for the good old days.
When I was working as a contractor for the Navy I had the privilege of working with a photographer who was a Chosin Reservoir survivor.
Why don't you jump off a cliff on to some very sharp rocks? You racist POS. We know what your intentions were by posting that "Happy Birthday" on MLK Day. It was pretty obvious. I hope people like you......well.....I won't finish that....
I read somewhere that Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas each has enacted a law which celebrates Robert E. Lee's birthday on the same day as MLK day. Those silly southerners.
I hear Arkansas is considering a change.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/17/martin-luther-king-robert-e-lee-confederate-holiday
It's a shame it has taken this long.
A few points. First and most obvious is in the annals of history no one will favorably compare the impact of Lee on America to that of MLK. Second, Lee, despite favorable conditions and troops strength was out witted and his troops out "couraged" by Colonel Joshua Chamberlain and his men of Maine at Gettysburg. He was again out maneuvered at every stop in SW Virginia to end the war. Again and again, the Union was able to break his supply lines. Third, even his enemies found him to be a man of virtue who continuously put the well-being of his troops ahead of himself. Fourth, the MLK Day was intentionally placed on the day on which the south had for generations celebrated Robert E. Lee Day--a move it would difficult to image would have been supported by Dr. King himself, the peace and conciliation seeker he was.
Last, maybe the op should find a KKK message board where he might find more sympathetic ears to his thoughtless nonsense.
Last, maybe the op should find a KKK message board where he might find more sympathetic ears to his thoughtless nonsense.
Buried a cousin who took the long walk . No one was aware until his obit told of his entering the military at 15 years old.
I just disagree on one point - it was placed as a federal holiday to occur on the Monday following his birthday, the 15th.
It's interesting his birthday was selected. It could have been August 28, the day he gave his "I Have a Dream" speech. It could have been March 21, the start of the March from Selma. It could have been April 4, the day of his assassination. Not that my opinion matters one iota, but I would have preferred April 3 commemorating the day before his assassination in 1968 when he gave his "I've Been to the Mountaintop" speech:
Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land! And so I'm happy, tonight. I'm not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man! Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord!
The mountain to which Dr. King is alluding is Mt. Nebo where, after passing leadership to the next generation, Moses went to see the promised land. He died there on Mt. Nebo. I think this could have been a holiday passing his mission of equality, peace and reconciliation to following generations.
Exactly. King was born on the 15th and Lee on the 19th. Coincidental juxtaposition. It's interesting that some places like Virginia observe both.
All good points but his birthday was selected in keeping with the tradition of other holidays like President's Day, the birthdays of Washington and Lincoln.
I guess there was a different mind set between the two wars. I read Patton's book, "War as I knew it." All the little things that go on that a movie can never put into 2 hours. All of these guys are great, except Field Marshall Montgomery . Patton's one theme was loss of time was criminal. Death will happen no matter what but loss of the initiative was criminal. I believe he had the best casualty rate of all the generals in WW2. His inflicted casualties, captured etc vs his armies losses.