Grandad at QB
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This is exactly why I advocate for having an area kid on the QB roster depth chart IF you can recruit one as a developmental guy. Maybe that guy comes via transfer or maybe he’s a high schooler but I believe having a guy on the roster who has been in the house for a couple of years provides continuity. Maybe we can get a talented 4 star to stick around for 3 years without playing, but I doubt it.
I thought one time I read he was interested in a coaching career. If that's still true, another year of experience (especially under Holgorsen) is really valuable for him.
That’s the main reason he came. Rhule Holgerson etc.. can open more doors for him than Northwestern of Iowa ever could have.
Gramstad is an able back-up and I doubt you'll see any of the freshman play this year, it's a learning year. I believe we have a player to back-up Raiola and Gramstad other than those freshman and he would only be used if both Raiola and Gramstad went down and that player is Haarberg. I know Haarberg has not been talked about much other than playing TE but I believe he is our wildcat and emergency QB and that makes me feel much better about our QB room. jmo
You got to love Dylan for talking Gramstad into staying another year, it shows Dylan really wants this team to win or else he would care less who is behind him at QB. Gramstad is not Raiola, not even close but he is a smart player who can run the Nebraska offense and Holgorsen loves the kid. I look forward to him getting some playing time this year and showing what he is capable of doing.
I think he was on the roster, but frankly we just need to go with 4 QBs since we have a 105 limit now. Bunch of people going to be moved on after spring ball.
I’ll be surprised if we don’t carry 5 QBs. Other positions have some flexibility where you can move guys around in the event of injuries. QB not so much and you need 2 scout team QBs probably.
Why carry that 5th QB that won’t get a rep when we still have HH on the roster?
HH is still way better than any 5th string QB that we’d have
I seriously doubt teams will carry 5 with the 105 limit. The 105 is not the scholarships limit or a suggestion it’s set in stone.
I couldn't agree more, I know many have scoffed at the idea that Haarberg would ever play QB again if an emergency arose but fact is he knows more of the offense than those freshmen on the roster. To me, 2025 the depth chart to start the year at QB would have Haarberg as number three even though he's not listed as a QB.
You have two QB's on the roster who know the offense inside and out and a TE who knows a lot of it and freshmen QB's who are trying to understand it. Like it or not if those freshmen had to play you can all but say good night to the 2025 season, they just aren't ready to play teams in the BIG. Those freshmen will be ready for the 2026 season but not this year.
If he is still around he hasn't played a single game since coming from Iowa Western CC in 2022. If he is still around he is an extreme emergency only QB. Haarberg would be the better emergency QB.
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You have to have scout team QBs and HH is not practicing as a QB anymore.
This is my understanding as to why a 5th QB is not necessary to run the scout team.
In college football, the third or fourth-string quarterback typically plays for the scout team, which simulates the next opponent's offense during practice.
While the scout team quarterback is often the third or fourth string QB, other players from various positions may also be used in the scout team to simulate different aspects of the opponent's offense.
We’ve needed 4 QBs at times in a season. Having a 5th QB who can run zone read option effectively would be valuable. Who runs scout team if your top 2 QBs are out or limited in practice. We’ve had that happen frequently. You sure as hell better have QB4 ready to run OUR offense on game day.
Like I said......there are probably a number of players that could run the scout team....doesn't have to be a QB.....with limited numbers, it wouldn't surprise me if we don't keep 5.
Here are the stats....
AI Overview
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While it's difficult to pinpoint an exact number, many, but not all, Division I college football teams keep 3-4 quarterbacks on their roster, with some potentially having 5, but the practice of carrying 5 is not common.
Exactly. We’ve virtually always have carried at least 5 with walk ons. We’ll see what Rhule does but I can’t imagine having his 4 star QB 3 running scout team. QB 4 will if he doesn’t roll with 5. Two years ago our top 3 QBs had injuries. I don’t believe in that situation you want scholarship QB #4 running scout team. Maybe you have a backup safety or CB who played some QB in high school who could run the scout team but that’s probably not going to give you a good look for your defense.
2024 stats.......with a 105 limit that would make it even more unlikely to carry 5.
Why? That’s a 4 deep at flexible positions and leaves 17 spots for kickers and QBs. Basically you’re saying we’re going to keep 5 deep at multiple other positions but not QB. That’s not logical. I think we’ll probably try to keep 5 QBs and RBs. Maybe with consideration for TEs versus WRs the numbers get a little tighter but there’s plenty of room for 5 QBs and 5 RBs.
4 deep at each offensive and defensive position is 88 players. Rhule can carry 5 QBs if he wants. If it ends up being 4, either Lateef or Davila would probably start out running scout, as Gramstad would be the backup with the greatest familiarity of the playbook. It's likely that the winner of the Davila/Lateef depth chart battle won't be the one with the best arm, but the one who masters the playbook and the reads first.
I will be somewhat surprised if Rhule doesn’t keep one of the walk on QBs. I think it would be naive to go to fall camp with 4. One leaves August 30th and all of the sudden you’re scrambling to find a warm body
I would think they want Gramstad involved in game prep and want the two scholarship backups taking reps with the 2's. One of those two is going to be in line for backup duty sometime during the season and stay in the post-Dylan QB competition. The other will transfer.
Logic? I gave you stats that said across Div 1 it is uncommon to carry 5 QBs.....I'm not saying we should or shouldn't......you think we should, but apparently more coaches in Div 1 disagree with you.
Do your “stats” include walk ons? I highly doubt it. We added 20 scholarship slots. It would make no sense to add 20 scholarship players without one of them being another QB. It’s the one position other than your kickers that is inflexible. You can move a WR to RB, a corner to safety, guard to tackle. Inside LB to outside etc etc. Who you going to move to QB if your top 3 go out? Right now Georgia shows 5 QBs. Ohio State has 7 QBs on their roster.
Who am I going to move if our top 3 QBs go out? We have 4 QBs right now that could probably win games...Raiola....Gramstad....Davila and Lateef. If we get past that I'm bringing Haarberg back as he knows the offense.
We can debate this until the cows come home. I'm still going to respectfully disagree with you that we need ( or any team for that matter) 5 QBs on their roster.
So you’re going to have Haarberg or Lateef run scout team? Brilliant. So you’ll admit because your stats don’t reflect walk ons that most teams in fact carried more than 4 QBs.
I randomly checked Illinois’s 24 roster. 6 QBs.
I think the logic would be that we are in the era of unlimited, drop of the hat transferring, and also, not every QB room is created equally. In NU's case, they are relying on a veteran gym rat as the key backup at least short term, but the two scholarship backups are only a year apart. One of those two could decide the grass is greener somewhere else. For example, Holgerson had a prior relationship with Davila and did not recruit Lateef. If it becomes clear that Davila is ahead of Lateef, there will be little keeping Lateef in Lincoln. If the QB situation clarifies in the spring, maybe Gramstad becomes the scout team guy.
Holgerson has stated that because of their lack of playbook knowledge, that it is unlikely that Davila and Lateef will see the field. So yes, I would have one of them run the scout team and I would actually use Haarberg as our 3rd team QB if something happened to our top 2.
You are correct, I was only referring to scholarship players.
In this day and age.....it is almost impossible to retain 4 quality QBs let alone 5. So I don't see the "logic" in insisting that we keep 5 QBs on scholarship.
You are correct, I was only referring to scholarship players.
In this day and age.....it is almost impossible to retain 4 quality QBs let alone 5. So I don't see the "logic" in insisting that we keep 5 QBs on scholarship.
The logic is that you don't want a guy you might have to depend on getting beat up playing scout team QB.
It's not only logical. We've seen it. The NFL has 50 some roster spots and teams carry 3 QBs and sometimes a 4th on the practice squad. We have 85 spots and can't sign a free agent or trade for a QB if our top 2 go down.If you fear getting a QB beat up because you may need them as your 4th or 5th option is logical, then I can't refute your logic. You win
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