Gonzaga has a former UK commit?

wacatss

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Looked at their roster and found the to-be starting PG is a former Kentucky commit. What is the story behind that?
Also the Center name "Efton Reid" is familiar too.
 

LineSkiCat14

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Nolan Hickman. Iirc, this recruitment was kind of during the lull in Cal's recruiting, where we were getting beaten out by a lot of people. It almost felt like Cal and staff started to look further back in the rankings..

Hickman is a fine player, but not sure he's who we really wanted anyways. Barely a 5star recruit, probably a better fit for Gonzaga.

I also don't see him and their other guards being able to tackle our length and defense when we play. I think we smother their guards.
 

Montana81

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Ty ty was just way better than Hickman. Hickman said in so many words he was only coming to UK to be one and done. He said he expected to start from day one pretty much. I can’t remember the exact quote but it was alone those lines.

Kind of rubbed me the wrong way tbh because then he de committed to go somewhere he wasn’t going to be a starter or one and done.

I think he probably dipped because we started sniffing around ty ty though.
 

yoshukai

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Nolan Hickman. Iirc, this recruitment was kind of during the lull in Cal's recruiting, where we were getting beaten out by a lot of people. It almost felt like Cal and staff started to look further back in the rankings..

Hickman is a fine player, but not sure he's who we really wanted anyways. Barely a 5star recruit, probably a better fit for Gonzaga.

I also don't see him and their other guards being able to tackle our length and defense when we play. I think we smother their guards.
Naw . They were just losing out on the top recruits. It was that way between the WWW and NIL years .
 

o_turkeywildturkey

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Nolan Hickman. Iirc, this recruitment was kind of during the lull in Cal's recruiting, where we were getting beaten out by a lot of people. It almost felt like Cal and staff started to look further back in the rankings..

Hickman is a fine player, but not sure he's who we really wanted anyways. Barely a 5star recruit, probably a better fit for Gonzaga.

I also don't see him and their other guards being able to tackle our length and defense when we play. I think we smother their guards.
You people are absolutely nuts. When we were supposedly getting “beat out by people” for recruits, we never finished worse than 5th in the country in recruiting rankings. Did you realize how ridiculous your post is? I think we finished 1st 7 times, and 2nd 3 times.
 

JwUKFan11

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He de-committed right before TyTy committed. And it likely was best for both parties. He saw Wheeler was also likely and he would get 10-15 minutes a game. So he went to Gonzaga where he got the same amount LOL
 
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JwUKFan11

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You people are absolutely nuts. When we were supposedly getting “beat out by people” for recruits, we never finished worse than 5th in the country in recruiting rankings. Did you realize how ridiculous your post is? I think we finished 1st 7 times, and 2nd 3 times.
Big difference in those classes is the level of talent though. We had some nice players during those highly rated classes but nothing elite. That has obviously swung back, Cason is an elite player. Edwards is elite, Rob as well. And then we also have a very good chance for Wagner and Bradshaw who are also elite. Plus the ones the staff feel good about in 24 should be elite. The tide has changed and it’s obvious, to say otherwise is ignoring a large and obvious talent difference.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Ty ty was just way better than Hickman. Hickman said in so many words he was only coming to UK to be one and done. He said he expected to start from day one pretty much. I can’t remember the exact quote but it was alone those lines.

Kind of rubbed me the wrong way tbh because then he de committed to go somewhere he wasn’t going to be a starter or one and done.

I think he probably dipped because we started sniffing around ty ty though.
His one and done didn’t work out too well.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Big difference in those classes is the level of talent though. We had some nice players during those highly rated classes but nothing elite. That has obviously swung back, Cason is an elite player. Edwards is elite, Rob as well. And then we also have a very good chance for Wagner and Bradshaw who are also elite. Plus the ones the staff feel good about in 24 should be elite. The tide has changed and it’s obvious, to say otherwise is ignoring a large and obvious talent difference.
Livingston looks pretty elite to me so far.
 

DreadLox

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Big difference in those classes is the level of talent though. We had some nice players during those highly rated classes but nothing elite. That has obviously swung back, Cason is an elite player. Edwards is elite, Rob as well. And then we also have a very good chance for Wagner and Bradshaw who are also elite. Plus the ones the staff feel good about in 24 should be elite. The tide has changed and it’s obvious, to say otherwise is ignoring a large and obvious talent difference.
If we were ranked 1st or 2nd and the players weren't highly rated or elite what does that say about the teams that finished behind us? Less highly rated and less elite but somehow more impressive?
 

JwUKFan11

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If we were ranked 1st or 2nd and the players weren't highly rated or elite what does that say about the teams that finished behind us? Less highly rated and less elite but somehow more impressive?
Are you assuming all other teams were playing the same amount of freshman as we were? Because that's not true
 
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dc513

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Hickman should be outstanding as a sophomore. One of the best hs passers I've seen recently. That said, TyTy brought more offense and was a better frosh fit for us until he he was injured.
I agree with both points.
 

dc513

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You people are absolutely nuts. When we were supposedly getting “beat out by people” for recruits, we never finished worse than 5th in the country in recruiting rankings. Did you realize how ridiculous your post is? I think we finished 1st 7 times, and 2nd 3 times.
Because of quantity not quality.
 

LineSkiCat14

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You people are absolutely nuts. When we were supposedly getting “beat out by people” for recruits, we never finished worse than 5th in the country in recruiting rankings. Did you realize how ridiculous your post is? I think we finished 1st 7 times, and 2nd 3 times.

A drop is still a drop. I'm not saying our recruiting was bad, but more so that we had to adjust a bit, and also that the staff didn't seem to know how to respond to what was happening. It was an adjustment. Just a few years prior, we had FIVE top10 recruits. We weren't just #1.. we had enough to be #1 and then the leftovers still made a top10 class...
 
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JwUKFan11

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I didn't know you were mixing rosters in with recruiting.
Are you actually this dumb? If a team that doesn’t rely on freshman gets a class that isn’t up to par with the quality of other classes then their team won’t suffer as much compared to a team like UK where most of the time Cal teams are heavily relying on these freshman to be elite and perform.
 
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Montana81

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If we were ranked 1st or 2nd and the players weren't highly rated or elite what does that say about the teams that finished behind us? Less highly rated and less elite but somehow more impressive?

Gotta take into account part of the reason we were recruiting at that level was also because we HAD to because of roster turnover. It’s easy to sell playing time.

Ultimately all that matters are the on court results. If you’re underperforming on the court then your recruiting is one of a few things that probability aren’t good enough.
 

DudahUK

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Big difference in those classes is the level of talent though. We had some nice players during those highly rated classes but nothing elite. That has obviously swung back, Cason is an elite player. Edwards is elite, Rob as well. And then we also have a very good chance for Wagner and Bradshaw who are also elite. Plus the ones the staff feel good about in 24 should be elite. The tide has changed and it’s obvious, to say otherwise is ignoring a large and obvious talent difference.
This all day. It’s baffling to me that people claim to not know the difference. Proof is in the pudding. Check the records of those years where we were getting the cream of the crop and now check the years we weren’t. Ain’t rocket science and Cal didn’t invent the wheel. He recruited the parts of a tank trak. Lkl
 

Son_Of_Saul

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You people are absolutely nuts. When we were supposedly getting “beat out by people” for recruits, we never finished worse than 5th in the country in recruiting rankings. Did you realize how ridiculous your post is? I think we finished 1st 7 times, and 2nd 3 times.
We got beat by Duke for 17 of the last 20 top 10 kids.

That sucks, if you didn't know.
 
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LineSkiCat14

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Yeah I'm just not worried by underclassmen, Hickman and Salis, by any means. I've seen nothing that says either of them are just going to be an elite player next year, that leads Gonzaga to a deep run.

Could it happen? Sure. But there's a long ways to go for either of them.
 

DudahUK

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Yeah I'm just not worried by underclassmen, Hickman and Salis, by any means. I've seen nothing that says either of them are just going to be an elite player next year, that leads Gonzaga to a deep run.

Could it happen? Sure. But there's a long ways to go for either of them.
Wallace is by far better than both of them, put together. It’s funny how when we “miss”, we usually win in the end.
 
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