Naw . They were just losing out on the top recruits. It was that way between the WWW and NIL years .Nolan Hickman. Iirc, this recruitment was kind of during the lull in Cal's recruiting, where we were getting beaten out by a lot of people. It almost felt like Cal and staff started to look further back in the rankings..
Hickman is a fine player, but not sure he's who we really wanted anyways. Barely a 5star recruit, probably a better fit for Gonzaga.
I also don't see him and their other guards being able to tackle our length and defense when we play. I think we smother their guards.
You people are absolutely nuts. When we were supposedly getting “beat out by people” for recruits, we never finished worse than 5th in the country in recruiting rankings. Did you realize how ridiculous your post is? I think we finished 1st 7 times, and 2nd 3 times.Nolan Hickman. Iirc, this recruitment was kind of during the lull in Cal's recruiting, where we were getting beaten out by a lot of people. It almost felt like Cal and staff started to look further back in the rankings..
Hickman is a fine player, but not sure he's who we really wanted anyways. Barely a 5star recruit, probably a better fit for Gonzaga.
I also don't see him and their other guards being able to tackle our length and defense when we play. I think we smother their guards.
Big difference in those classes is the level of talent though. We had some nice players during those highly rated classes but nothing elite. That has obviously swung back, Cason is an elite player. Edwards is elite, Rob as well. And then we also have a very good chance for Wagner and Bradshaw who are also elite. Plus the ones the staff feel good about in 24 should be elite. The tide has changed and it’s obvious, to say otherwise is ignoring a large and obvious talent difference.You people are absolutely nuts. When we were supposedly getting “beat out by people” for recruits, we never finished worse than 5th in the country in recruiting rankings. Did you realize how ridiculous your post is? I think we finished 1st 7 times, and 2nd 3 times.
His one and done didn’t work out too well.Ty ty was just way better than Hickman. Hickman said in so many words he was only coming to UK to be one and done. He said he expected to start from day one pretty much. I can’t remember the exact quote but it was alone those lines.
Kind of rubbed me the wrong way tbh because then he de committed to go somewhere he wasn’t going to be a starter or one and done.
I think he probably dipped because we started sniffing around ty ty though.
Livingston looks pretty elite to me so far.Big difference in those classes is the level of talent though. We had some nice players during those highly rated classes but nothing elite. That has obviously swung back, Cason is an elite player. Edwards is elite, Rob as well. And then we also have a very good chance for Wagner and Bradshaw who are also elite. Plus the ones the staff feel good about in 24 should be elite. The tide has changed and it’s obvious, to say otherwise is ignoring a large and obvious talent difference.
If we were ranked 1st or 2nd and the players weren't highly rated or elite what does that say about the teams that finished behind us? Less highly rated and less elite but somehow more impressive?Big difference in those classes is the level of talent though. We had some nice players during those highly rated classes but nothing elite. That has obviously swung back, Cason is an elite player. Edwards is elite, Rob as well. And then we also have a very good chance for Wagner and Bradshaw who are also elite. Plus the ones the staff feel good about in 24 should be elite. The tide has changed and it’s obvious, to say otherwise is ignoring a large and obvious talent difference.
Are you assuming all other teams were playing the same amount of freshman as we were? Because that's not trueIf we were ranked 1st or 2nd and the players weren't highly rated or elite what does that say about the teams that finished behind us? Less highly rated and less elite but somehow more impressive?
I agree with both points.Hickman should be outstanding as a sophomore. One of the best hs passers I've seen recently. That said, TyTy brought more offense and was a better frosh fit for us until he he was injured.
Because of quantity not quality.You people are absolutely nuts. When we were supposedly getting “beat out by people” for recruits, we never finished worse than 5th in the country in recruiting rankings. Did you realize how ridiculous your post is? I think we finished 1st 7 times, and 2nd 3 times.
You people are absolutely nuts. When we were supposedly getting “beat out by people” for recruits, we never finished worse than 5th in the country in recruiting rankings. Did you realize how ridiculous your post is? I think we finished 1st 7 times, and 2nd 3 times.
I didn't know you were mixing rosters in with recruiting.Are you assuming all other teams were playing the same amount of freshman as we were? Because that's not true
Are you actually this dumb? If a team that doesn’t rely on freshman gets a class that isn’t up to par with the quality of other classes then their team won’t suffer as much compared to a team like UK where most of the time Cal teams are heavily relying on these freshman to be elite and perform.I didn't know you were mixing rosters in with recruiting.
If we were ranked 1st or 2nd and the players weren't highly rated or elite what does that say about the teams that finished behind us? Less highly rated and less elite but somehow more impressive?
This all day. It’s baffling to me that people claim to not know the difference. Proof is in the pudding. Check the records of those years where we were getting the cream of the crop and now check the years we weren’t. Ain’t rocket science and Cal didn’t invent the wheel. He recruited the parts of a tank trak. LklBig difference in those classes is the level of talent though. We had some nice players during those highly rated classes but nothing elite. That has obviously swung back, Cason is an elite player. Edwards is elite, Rob as well. And then we also have a very good chance for Wagner and Bradshaw who are also elite. Plus the ones the staff feel good about in 24 should be elite. The tide has changed and it’s obvious, to say otherwise is ignoring a large and obvious talent difference.
We got beat by Duke for 17 of the last 20 top 10 kids.You people are absolutely nuts. When we were supposedly getting “beat out by people” for recruits, we never finished worse than 5th in the country in recruiting rankings. Did you realize how ridiculous your post is? I think we finished 1st 7 times, and 2nd 3 times.
Talk about a fall. Pretty sure he was ranked like top 6 at one point. Good for him for sticking it out though and not just bailing because he was supposed to like soooooooo many of our past players have.Is Sallis still there as well?
That makes my bones ache.We got beat by Duke for 17 of the last 20 top 10 kids.
That sucks, if you didn't know.
Wallace is by far better than both of them, put together. It’s funny how when we “miss”, we usually win in the end.Yeah I'm just not worried by underclassmen, Hickman and Salis, by any means. I've seen nothing that says either of them are just going to be an elite player next year, that leads Gonzaga to a deep run.
Could it happen? Sure. But there's a long ways to go for either of them.