Golden Hurricane Chant

jesterondirt

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Just curious who the responsible party is that ruined the chant over the last couple years?
 

TulsaGrad07

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Back in '05 to '07 when I was a grad student, that chant was electric! It was a beautiful thing... You could hear a pin drop between each change because every person in the place was engaged and sucking in a lungs' worth of air to belt out their recitation.
 

mcane

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between the overloud scoreboard noise and the band, there was no ability to get it started. I felt bad for the over-beverage guys on the West Side that were yelling Golden repeatedly while the band was playing
 
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Our chant began to die under Bill. Excitement was missing, players were not in the best condition, players and coaches not on the same page. The crowd could feel the team slipping even in the LB win year. We need a big win as an underdog to get that excitement back. Today sitting on the east side looking at 30% of the season ticket holders missing on the west side its hard to get it going. Wins will cure a lot of the excitement problem. Just win baby! Yes please dial back the volume from the big board.
Why not after each score right before the kickoff start the chant six times no more everybody knows its coming. Use the scoreboard video and sound the cheerleaders and a section leader in the stands for each section. Use the Hurricane club to implement the section leader and signs. Think out of the box start a tradition on the chant! For the defense a takeaway six chants no more. Just do it!
 
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jesterondirt

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My problem with the current chant is they dont give it enough time to work. Sound travels at 1100 ft per second. Immediately screaming Hurricane after saying Golden doesnt work.
 

TulsaCane95

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If the cheerleaders are going to hold up signs to lead the cheer, the Golden sign needs to remain on the East side and the Hurricane sign on the West side. The cheerleaders need to work with the dance squad to hold up the sign on the other side of the field and learn how to pause.
 

TulsaGrad07

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I do hate all the crappy *** rap / top 40 dance garbage they blast over the loud speakers between each timeout. The stadium is full of old white people, the only ones enjoying that brand of music are the players. Scuttle that crap and get the crowd involved. Our stadium isn't supposed to be a spring-board for pop music, it's supposed to be a kicka$$ place to watch a game of football.
 

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I thinks it's too much to ask the cheerleaders to lead a cheer. The expectations are just too high.
 

quincy101

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I do hate all the crappy *** rap / top 40 dance garbage they blast over the loud speakers between each timeout. The stadium is full of old white people, the only ones enjoying that brand of music are the players. Scuttle that crap and get the crowd involved. Our stadium isn't supposed to be a spring-board for pop music, it's supposed to be a kicka$$ place to watch a game of football.
As an old caucasian sitting near the top of the south zone, I heartily agree. I'm also getting real tired of our PA guy (Larry Clark)? doing his "thirddddddd ddddddown" followed by bong, bong,etc. Especially since our defensive third down % sucks. & I'm not sure even the players like some of that alleged music.
 

XOut88

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The music is 100 percent better than the non motivating music and hokey things they did in the past couple of years to motivate the massive amount of old non yelling people in the stands. What Tulsa needs is a younger crowd in those stands to cheer on their team. The music is current and the players like it and that's really all that matters right? Plus we WON! Duh!!!!!!
 
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drboobay

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Music is ok but crowd is just not into it. Not even loud on fourth dow defensive stands.
 

astonmartin708_rivals

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Ya, the music is run by the marketing team. I've never been a fan of it.

The gold standard for stadium music is Notre Dame. It's pretty easy for them with the whole Irish connection, but it can't be hard to crowd source a bunch of fans preferred songs out of a list of 20 or so.

On a fun side note, they repeatedly played a Coheed and Cambria song 'Welcome Home' during the exact section where there is a F-bomb in the lyrics. You probably can't tell over the blaring stadium speakers, but I still found it funny. They continued to do it after I told them about it.
 

TulsaGrad07

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The music is 100 percent better than the non motivating music and hokey things they did in the past couple of years to motivate the massive amount of old non yelling people in the stands. What Tulsa needs is a younger crowd in those stands to cheer on their team. The music is current and the players like it and that's really all that matters right? Plus we WON! Duh!!!!!!

Not trying to be a contrarian or pick a fight or anything, but the players liking the music is not all that really matters. You gotta placate your target audience if you seek to increase attendance, which translates into better revenue and better facilities, coaching, wins etc. Now I'm not suggesting that banning crappy *** ghetto music is going to turn the atmosphere around by itself, but I can tell you, as a student from '05 to '07, and a kid going to TU games in the '90s, they never played that crap over the PA system and I didn't feel irritated at the selections. I could either be becoming a crotchety, cantankerous old man myself, or I could be onto something in saying that if you want to get the fans involved, you don't drown them out with crap-tastic music from the hood.
 
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Organize the fans. Cheerleaders are good for the students but don't have the know how to get all the fans into the game. You have to get the fans up then lead beat a drum, use a amplified megaphone and signs. Use the hurricane go cart. Hire a fan promoter make it fun! Think and act instead of the blame game on the fans its the lack of organizing the fans that is the problem. Year after year we here the crowd is flat. Its time to lead please hire someone. If I were the head coach a fan expert would be required. Make the fans the part of the team.
 

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Are the marketing personnel different for bball and football? Because bball entertainment in-game experience improved dramatically after Manning arrived IMO.

That being said, it's entirely different venues. The music that works in a compact, roofed arena is NOT necessarily what works in an outdoor football stadium. But if we could freshen up the experience in Reynolds, why not Chapman?

Our announcer does not help in either venue. At all.
 

astonmartin708_rivals

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Ya, the music is run by the marketing team. I've never been a fan of it.

The gold standard for stadium music is Notre Dame. It's pretty easy for them with the whole Irish connection, but it can't be hard to crowd source a bunch of fans preferred songs out of a list of 20 or so.
Are the marketing personnel different for bball and football? Because bball entertainment in-game experience improved dramatically after Manning arrived IMO.

That being said, it's entirely different venues. The music that works in a compact, roofed arena is NOT necessarily what works in an outdoor football stadium. But if we could freshen up the experience in Reynolds, why not Chapman?

Our announcer does not help in either venue. At all.

They're the same both places. (Granted some of the staff changes year to year just because they are marketing interns)

I agree that the tone of basketball games and football games are quite different. You can get away with more poppy stuff in the basketball arena. Football needs anthemic (epic) rock as well as oldies, feel good country, and a small smattering of decent rap.
 

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Who is the announcer? Some schools get a known voice from the media (radio or TV) who could do this.
 

DirtyDanchez

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The whole culture at TU needs to change if you ever want a good atmosphere and people to show up to the games. We wanted to be like SMU and now we get SMU like crowds its not surprising one bit.
 
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Who is the announcer? Some schools get a known voice from the media (radio or TV) who could do this.
He has been doing it since I got to TU (1992) and he is also the intro voice for the Broken Arrow Pride (he may also do the PA announcing for BA football games). The guy who fills in for him is a guy named Larry who is a pastor at Cedar Ridge Christian Church. I wonder if TU could steal ORU Voice for football? He did a pretty good job the game or two he filled in at the DonRey last year.

On the chant...our band and cheerleaders are clueless as to when the right time to play is and the right time to start that chant is. To me, you start that chant when you need a big defensive stop, you make it loud and keep doing it the entire series (of course we'd probably lose a 1/4 of our season ticket holders to strokes with people standing up and yelling at a game), OR if you have an offensive series you need to score...you do it 4-6 times coming out of the change of possesion and then stop before the 1st play. The band needs to learn some cool complementary music to situation (i.e. Darth Vader music on defense), maybe some Danger Zone on offense. I am sick of Viva Las Vegas and the other hokey crap they are playing too slow. I swear I almost fell asleep at halftime because they played everything 20-30 bpm too slow and made it sound like a funeral dirge.

My daughter did make it on the jumbotron the other dancing away...so that was good.
 

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Fellas, level with me. I can't be objective on my own, so give it to me straight. Didn't TU games have an exciting vibe back in the early to mid 90's and the mid 00's to some extent? I remember kids running all over the place, footballs being tossed on the grassy knolls, boisterous fans, golden hurricane chants. I used to walk away from games in the 90's thinking, it'd be fun to go to university here! The team had tradition, firewagon offenses and the ability to upset teams we weren't supposed to and it was glorious. A&M, OSU, Oklahoma in '96, those games made your chest swell even though you had no involvement on the field. I still go to games, but it's not the same. I think hiring Monty was a great way to stoke the flames again, and we have lots of great prospects lining up, so I'm thinking it's going to turn around soon and we'll fill up SKELLY (not H.A. Chapman) stadium again once a season at least.
 

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The whole culture at TU needs to change if you ever want a good atmosphere and people to show up to the games. We wanted to be like SMU and now we get SMU like crowds its not surprising one bit.

They had that whole "death penalty" thing in the mid 80's. I don't know if they will ever really recover from that. That set back their program for perpetuity in my opinion. We gotta at LEAST be better than a SMU crowd... I can't say, I've never been to a SMU game, but I'll get a taste on Halloween when we play them.
 
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Can't remember when but Crazy George was I guy TU hired to pump up the crowd a few times. He did a nice job getting the fans involved. Not everyone has to get into it not a requirement. The Hurricane club is just an idea, a way to pay for the promotion. You can see the players asking for the fans to get up and make noise.
 
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Fellas, level with me. I can't be objective on my own, so give it to me straight. Didn't TU games have an exciting vibe back in the early to mid 90's and the mid 00's to some extent? I remember kids running all over the place, footballs being tossed on the grassy knolls, boisterous fans, golden hurricane chants. I used to walk away from games in the 90's thinking, it'd be fun to go to university here! The team had tradition, firewagon offenses and the ability to upset teams we weren't supposed to and it was glorious. A&M, OSU, Oklahoma in '96, those games made your chest swell even though you had no involvement on the field. I still go to games, but it's not the same. I think hiring Monty was a great way to stoke the flames again, and we have lots of great prospects lining up, so I'm thinking it's going to turn around soon and we'll fill up SKELLY (not H.A. Chapman) stadium again once a season at least.

You used to be able to go to games as a fan, not being an alumni and feel welcome. Nowadays not so much. I literally have to force myself to feel wanted sometimes.
 
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DirtyDanchez

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Yep, once they got the suites built they pretty much stop caring about the gameday experience of the casual fan. Do you even see a marketing person on the East side of the stadium during a game? They are probably all busy having beers and drinks in the suites while the common fan has to pay 4 bucks for a bottle of water and 3 dollars for a tiny bag of popcorn.
 
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DirtyDanchez

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And too be fair I guess I should say most of the problems of the gameday experience is more on the administration level than the marketing side of things. I guess a lot of the donors just get off on the fact they can act so much more superior than us common folk that we should be treated like peasants. Maybe like SMU they will bring in the mobile tailgate suites for them to show up 45mins before kick and have a catered tailgate at as well.
 

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My kids loved being able to play on the grassy hills in the south end zone but now security runs them off. Playing on the field after the game was a big deal as well but nope, not now, security won't let it happen. There has been a change and I don't think it is all positive. Some of the changes have the feel of trying to be more like a big time program but Tulsa isn't and running off kids won't make it happen. As I have said before TCU has done a great job with their new stadium and keeping fans involved including letting kids help the team run onto the field.
 

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My kids loved being able to play on the grassy hills in the south end zone but now security runs them off. Playing on the field after the game was a big deal as well but nope, not now, security won't let it happen. There has been a change and I don't think it is all positive. Some of the changes have the feel of trying to be more like a big time program but Tulsa isn't and running off kids won't make it happen. As I have said before TCU has done a great job with their new stadium and keeping fans involved including letting kids help the team run onto the field.

Don't think that hasn't come at a cost though (for TCU). I did my undergrad at TCU and when I started in 2001, it was an academic institution. By 2005, they put up a wrought iron fence around the intramural fields so students wouldn't throw the football on their property, started building up their stadium that nobody even attended on gameday, and shifted their entire focus from academics (in the top 100 when I started) to athletics (wasn't in the top 150 when I graduated). The economics department didn't even have brick and mortar buildings, we had portable trailers. Instead of building new classrooms and buildings, they focused on football first. Sure they have a good team now, but my degree isn't worth the paper it's printed on. I like Tulsa's dedication to being a top 50 private university in the country and having that be their number 1 goal. Our stadium really looks good these days (albeit with an added element of pretension with the snobs up in the glass box). I heard someone say we're building a practice facility soon, so hopefully that translates into a better on-field experience in addition to this discussion about off-field improvements.
 

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He has been doing it since I got to TU (1992) and he is also the intro voice for the Broken Arrow Pride (he may also do the PA announcing for BA football games). The guy who fills in for him is a guy named Larry who is a pastor at Cedar Ridge Christian Church. I wonder if TU could steal ORU Voice for football? He did a pretty good job the game or two he filled in at the DonRey last year.

On the chant...our band and cheerleaders are clueless as to when the right time to play is and the right time to start that chant is. To me, you start that chant when you need a big defensive stop, you make it loud and keep doing it the entire series (of course we'd probably lose a 1/4 of our season ticket holders to strokes with people standing up and yelling at a game), OR if you have an offensive series you need to score...you do it 4-6 times coming out of the change of possesion and then stop before the 1st play. The band needs to learn some cool complementary music to situation (i.e. Darth Vader music on defense), maybe some Danger Zone on offense. I am sick of Viva Las Vegas and the other hokey crap they are playing too slow. I swear I almost fell asleep at halftime because they played everything 20-30 bpm too slow and made it sound like a funeral dirge.

My daughter did make it on the jumbotron the other dancing away...so that was good.

Hey, TU band director here. You're right that the game experience is a bit disjointed as we try to update a lot of what has gone on in the past. Because all of that has to be coordinated with the booth (all of the athletic marketing staff are new this year) and with cheer, it is still a work in progress. The other side of that is getting my students used to some new ideas (particularly on defense, where the MO was "let the drumline play" but the rest of the band not doing much). That's actually something I will be touching on before our next home game.

I'm sorry you didn't enjoy our previous halftime show, I hope maybe the first one (music from the 90s) was more to your liking. If not, we'll have different music for each of our final 3 halftimes - hopefully you'll find something to enjoy, none of which is Viva Las Vegas (I've never been a big Elvis fan).

If you have any questions about what we do for gamedays, please feel free to email me - the address is available on the TU website. I'm open to input, within reason.

Thanks,

Andrew Anderson
Director, "Sound of the Golden Hurricane"
 

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Don't think that hasn't come at a cost though (for TCU). I did my undergrad at TCU and when I started in 2001, it was an academic institution. By 2005, they put up a wrought iron fence around the intramural fields so students wouldn't throw the football on their property, started building up their stadium that nobody even attended on gameday, and shifted their entire focus from academics (in the top 100 when I started) to athletics (wasn't in the top 150 when I graduated). The economics department didn't even have brick and mortar buildings, we had portable trailers. Instead of building new classrooms and buildings, they focused on football first. Sure they have a good team now, but my degree isn't worth the paper it's printed on. I like Tulsa's dedication to being a top 50 private university in the country and having that be their number 1 goal. Our stadium really looks good these days (albeit with an added element of pretension with the snobs up in the glass box). I heard someone say we're building a practice facility soon, so hopefully that translates into a better on-field experience in addition to this discussion about off-field improvements.

According to US News and World Report they are ranked 76. Intramural fields are there for anyone to play on. No portable building in site. 19,000 applicants for 1,800 slots. I think they are just fine.
 

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Hey, TU band director here. You're right that the game experience is a bit disjointed as we try to update a lot of what has gone on in the past. Because all of that has to be coordinated with the booth (all of the athletic marketing staff are new this year) and with cheer, it is still a work in progress. The other side of that is getting my students used to some new ideas (particularly on defense, where the MO was "let the drumline play" but the rest of the band not doing much). That's actually something I will be touching on before our next home game.

I'm sorry you didn't enjoy our previous halftime show, I hope maybe the first one (music from the 90s) was more to your liking. If not, we'll have different music for each of our final 3 halftimes - hopefully you'll find something to enjoy, none of which is Viva Las Vegas (I've never been a big Elvis fan).

If you have any questions about what we do for gamedays, please feel free to email me - the address is available on the TU website. I'm open to input, within reason.

Thanks,

Andrew Anderson
Director, "Sound of the Golden Hurricane"

Band Director, Love what you guys are doing. It certainly beats the pregame crap coming out of the video board. The band is definitely an integral part of the game day experience and the bigger your numbers, the more we like it. Don't knock the drum line though. There is nothing like a good percussion groove at high volume to set the atmosphere. Wish you could double the size of the drum section.
 

mcane

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Infinitely prefer the band to the scoreboard music which is always too loud. Could anyone understand a word from the players during the 60 minutes with? Loud and fuzzy.
 

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According to US News and World Report they are ranked 76. Intramural fields are there for anyone to play on. No portable building in site. 19,000 applicants for 1,800 slots. I think they are just fine.

Did you go to TCU? I don't care what some website told you. I spent the 50k to go there, I went to school in portable trailers. If you don't believe me, come on over and I'll slap the bejesus outta you.
 
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Here is my take on the chant, it should be 7 times max. when the players walk out to flip the coin the announcer says something to the affect of Ok Tulsa fans what ever side shouts the loudest gets a free arbys sandwich (or something) if Tulsa scores more then 21pts in the half. then the cheer team does the sign thing showing what side says what and the video board shows the number of times and the fake volume meter. then repeat the same after the half while we wait for kick off. we are giving the stuff out anyway just make the fans earn it

do it this way until our fans get the idea lol because for some reason it is this hard to figure this crap out.

Video board guy chill the frick out with some of the music. my feeling is between video guy and the pointless announcements you guys are killing fandom.

I'm good with the 3rd down thing but maybe use the gong then start the fans chanting DEFENSE!!!!
 

DirtyDanchez

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Pretty sure my group started the Golden Hurricane chant, us drunk a holes are not there anymore so it is no surprise it is not as good anymore.
 

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According to US News and World Report they are ranked 76. Intramural fields are there for anyone to play on. No portable building in site. 19,000 applicants for 1,800 slots. I think they are just fine.

Did you go to TCU? I don't care what some website told you. I spent the 50k to go there, I went to school in portable trailers. If you don't believe me, come on over and I'll slap the bejesus outta you.

jerandlaur & tulsagrad07 slapfighting:
 

aand

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Band Director, Love what you guys are doing. It certainly beats the pregame crap coming out of the video board. The band is definitely an integral part of the game day experience and the bigger your numbers, the more we like it. Don't knock the drum line though. There is nothing like a good percussion groove at high volume to set the atmosphere. Wish you could double the size of the drum section.

Appreciate the kind words! Don't get me wrong, I love my drummers - I'm just trying to set it up where we can play a quick couple of measures after a good defensive play, then have them start immediately after. They've had free rein for years and I think it's a good time to help coordinate them with what else is going on. I'd love bigger numbers as well - expense for the students is our biggest enemy there. As a percentage of the student population, our band is actually larger than most other small private schools... it's just that our undergraduate enrollment is so small, even a decently large percentage doesn't look very big on the field.