Going for it on fourth down in the third quarter

[Charlie Marlow]

I didn’t like going for it there. Our D had been playing well so why gift the other team great field position in that situation? It wasn’t as bad as Frost’s onside kick but it was in a similar vein.

So who is responsible for that, DH or MR? I know Dana calls the plays but doesn’t Rhule actually decide to go for it there? I’ve never been impressed with his in-game coaching and had hope the new coordinators would help him out there.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

A bit of the onside kick against Northwestern in that one.

 

[RBigredMax1]

Agreed - I’m sure they will talk about the “analytics say to go for it …”.

But the D has just forced 3 and outs and a turnover the last 3 drives. Give cincy the long field and keep the momentum going.

4th and 2 on the goal line - ballsy and I liked that one (because it worked)

 

[Charlie Marlow]

Agreed - I’m sure they will talk about the “analytics say to go for it …”.

But the D has just forced 3 and outs and a turnover the last 3 drives. Give cincy the long field and keep the momentum going.

4th and 2 on the goal line - ballsy and I liked that one (because it worked)

I liked the goal line sequence too. The 3rd down play call obviously set up the 4th down call. Bravo to Holgerson on that one.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

Agreed - I’m sure they will talk about the “analytics say to go for it …”.

But the D has just forced 3 and outs and a turnover the last 3 drives. Give cincy the long field and keep the momentum going.

4th and 2 on the goal line - ballsy and I liked that one (because it worked)

I like that they trust the team to do it, but not when you have momentum. Keep the momentum and pin them deep. Cincinnati didn't do that well when needing to drive it.

regarding the goal line. I like going for it as they still start at the 2 and weren't driving well when forced to do run the whole field.

 

[cubsker15]

Terrible decision. Rhule needs to stop letting Raiola coach the team.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

It is one of those things where if it works, you are smart and if it doesn't, you are dumb.

Had they punted and pinned them at the 10...and Cincy drove 90 yards for a TD...it would have been BRUTAL too.

I don't want to turn into lame *** iowa where they punt on 4th and inches at the 40 yard line. But I also don't want to lose games with bad choices.

In the end, I just hope whatever they do call ends up working!

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

It is one of those things where if it works, you are smart and if it doesn't, you are dumb.

Had they punted and pinned them at the 10...and Cincy drove 90 yards for a TD...it would have been BRUTAL too.

I don't want to turn into lame *** iowa where they punt on 4th and inches at the 40 yard line. But I also don't want to lose games with bad choices.

In the end, I just hope whatever they do call ends up working!

They had the first down with Johnson if he gets it to him right away. There is a bit of solace in the fact that the play should have worked, I guess.

 

[GeorgeFlippin]

"It was a bad call, Ripley, a bad call."

 

[Mr. Dick Herbstreit]

The handoff exchange was too slow all night!! It’s as if Raiola is running zone read and might pull it and go?? They need the ball to RB faster.

 

[king_kong__]

I didn’t mind it. Good process.

Lucky it wasn’t a pick 6, though.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

The handoff exchange was too slow all night!! It’s as if Raiola is running zone read and might pull it and go?? They need the ball to RB faster.

I think that a lot of them are RPO's, not so much that Dylan will keep it but that he might pass it, like the TD on the goal line.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

The handoff exchange was too slow all night!! It’s as if Raiola is running zone read and might pull it and go?? They need the ball to RB faster.

That delayed handoff is pretty common now in the RPO. In theory it should keep the defense a bit on its toes instead of attacking if there is a semblance of a pass or qb run game out of it.

 

[cubsker15]

The handoff exchange was too slow all night!! It’s as if Raiola is running zone read and might pull it and go?? They need the ball to RB faster.

There was one play where if he had pulled it, he gets 10 or 15 yards untouched.

 

[tro80]

If you punt, and they have to go 90 yards instead of 50 some, that's probably another minute or two off the clock. And our last drive starts with 5-6 minutes on the clock after they scored instead of 7minutes. Punt and let the defense start with them deep instead of at their 40-45 yard line. I get it if you make the first down, game might be as good as over. But too much time left IMO to go for it their.

 

[BadgerPete]

I liked the goal line sequence too. The 3rd down play call obviously set up the 4th down call. Bravo to Holgerson on that one.

No question about the "set up". Brilliant! HH went in motion just like on 3rd down and the linebackers were sucked in to stop the run. Sharp pass by DR!

 

[Pennsyhuskers]

Going for it on 4th and 2 is not the same as Frost’s onside kick. Our short passing game had been working. The odds of us making 4th and 2 were exponentially higher than the odds of recovering an onside kick. Onside kicks have a very low percentage of success.

 

[Anon1756440239]

Love going for it there actually, hate the play call though. There needs to be a reliable 2 yard run in the playbook, whether that means getting HH involved or not, it’s going to be the difference between a win and a loss this year.

 

[inthedeed]

ignorant call. 4th and 2 and fail. not only give the ball up(1) with field position(2) and change the momentum(3) let alone the 4th quarter clock management considerations(4).

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

Going for it on 4th and 2 is not the same as Frost’s onside kick. Our short passing game had been working. The odds of us making 4th and 2 were exponentially higher than the odds of recovering an onside kick. Onside kicks have a very low percentage of success.

That's fine, but in the aspect of screwing up your own momentum it is the same. Do I hate going for it? No, but your punter had been pinning them deep and they had been struggling to move it out of their own end zone. Don't give them a boost for no reason. Last year when our special teams were terrible, I'd go without question.

 

[HuskerO58]

I actually liked the call to go for it and the play call itself. It was a tough play, but we had guys open to make it work.

DR was just a tad late seeing the open guys, but give credit to Cincy for quickly recovering and not giving DR a lot of time.

 

[Nuts McClanahan]

I didn’t like going for it there. Our D had been playing well so why gift the other team great field position in that situation? It wasn’t as bad as Frost’s onside kick but it was in a similar vein.

So who is responsible for that, DH or MR? I know Dana calls the plays but doesn’t Rhule actually decide to go for it there? I’ve never been impressed with his in-game coaching and had hope the new coordinators would help him out there.

I'm sure that was MR's decision. One thing to add to the conversation moving forward is that new punter is a weapon we haven't had. That kid is better at pinning people deep. At midfield, that kid could punt. He could run and punt. Or just keep it and run. He could run and pass. The kid is also a good passer. That dude has been playing Australian rules football his whole life. That's all they do is that ****.

 

[Huskers12345]

I'm just confused because the game plan seemed so vanilla and conservative.

 

[cestrup]

I think DR needs work on his pre snap reads and hot routes. Hes young so im sure it’s a process

 

[Rufus Barchetta]

I didn’t like going for it there. Our D had been playing well so why gift the other team great field position in that situation? It wasn’t as bad as Frost’s onside kick but it was in a similar vein.

So who is responsible for that, DH or MR? I know Dana calls the plays but doesn’t Rhule actually decide to go for it there? I’ve never been impressed with his in-game coaching and had hope the new coordinators would help him out there.

Hindsight makes everyone right.

 

[Bigred2467]

Hindsight makes everyone right.

So, never question a coach's decision. Got it.

 

[rez dog 70]

It is one of those things where if it works, you are smart and if it doesn't, you are dumb.

Had they punted and pinned them at the 10...and Cincy drove 90 yards for a TD...it would have been BRUTAL too.

I don't want to turn into lame *** iowa where they punt on 4th and inches at the 40 yard line. But I also don't want to lose games with bad choices.

In the end, I just hope whatever they do call ends up working!

+1

 

[Big bo fan]

I didn’t like going for it there. Our D had been playing well so why gift the other team great field position in that situation? It wasn’t as bad as Frost’s onside kick but it was in a similar vein.

So who is responsible for that, DH or MR? I know Dana calls the plays but doesn’t Rhule actually decide to go for it there? I’ve never been impressed with his in-game coaching and had hope the new coordinators would help him out there.

Rhule said in his presser that Dylan checked into another play and everyone didn’t get it . He said the original play was likely a conversation. That’s a mistake Dylan can’t have on 4th down.

 

[orclover11]

I didn’t like going for it there. Our D had been playing well so why gift the other team great field position in that situation? It wasn’t as bad as Frost’s onside kick but it was in a similar vein.

So who is responsible for that, DH or MR? I know Dana calls the plays but doesn’t Rhule actually decide to go for it there? I’ve never been impressed with his in-game coaching and had hope the new coordinators would help him out there.

This is the importance of lucking into a win against a bad team...we gave up 7 ypc, and cin continued to throw the ball and throw picks because they suck. They were in field goal range to go to OT but their *** qb decided to throw into double coverage. If they beat us, that go for it decision would go down as stupid as Frost and people would be wanting Rhule's head by October. Just win baby.

 

[orclover11]

Hindsight makes everyone right.

Not this board...we have been terrible for a decade and people were still calling for 10+ wins, and are "surprised" we didn't look great against a juggernaut like Cincinnati. Now in hindsight, people are saying that Cincinnati might be the best front 7 we see all year. They are tough. Lol

 

[HuskerO58]

Not this board...
.... Now in hindsight, people are saying that Cincinnati might be the best front 7 we see all year.

Have people said that here?

 

[HuskerO58]

So, never question a coach's decision. Got it.

Pretty sure 2 things can be true at the same time.

1) Hindsight makes everyone right (or at least helps tremendously) and,
2) We can still continue to question a coaches decision.

 

[Huskers12345]

This is the importance of lucking into a win against a bad team...we gave up 7 ypc, and cin continued to throw the ball and throw picks because they suck. They were in field goal range to go to OT but their *** qb decided to throw into double coverage. If they beat us, that go for it decision would go down as stupid as Frost and people would be wanting Rhule's head by October. Just win baby.

You wanted them to drive 91 yards in 2:10 by running? Without running out the clock? They were out of timeouts with 2 minutes left. Do you have even a basic understanding of football?

 

[dinglefritz]

You wanted them to drive 91 yards in 2:10 by running? Without running out the clock? They were out of timeouts with 2 minutes left. Do you have even a basic understanding of football?

She does not

 

[Huskers12345]

Not this board...we have been terrible for a decade and people were still calling for 10+ wins, and are "surprised" we didn't look great against a juggernaut like Cincinnati. Now in hindsight, people are saying that Cincinnati might be the best front 7 we see all year. They are tough. Lol

You must have missed my other post. Can you post a pic of the stadium right after kickoff Saturday since you live so close?

 

[dinglefritz]

I'm just confused because the game plan seemed so vanilla and conservative.

The game plan was greatly affected by what Cinci was doing on defense. They were keeping everything in front of them and playing a lot of zone with 3 safeties. Their DTs are very good players.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

I didn’t like going for it there. Our D had been playing well so why gift the other team great field position in that situation? It wasn’t as bad as Frost’s onside kick but it was in a similar vein.

So who is responsible for that, DH or MR? I know Dana calls the plays but doesn’t Rhule actually decide to go for it there? I’ve never been impressed with his in-game coaching and had hope the new coordinators would help him out there.

I don't know how it REALLY WORKS, but Rhule did say last year he has final veto power on plays. Insinuating I'm the head coach making the big money with the contract, throw the darts at me.

That takes a lot of time on the play clock which has been shortened. Honestly I don't know the answer to your question but I can see him saying let's go give me your best play.... and you've got 3 seconds to respond

 

[Kakdawg]

I didn’t like going for it there. Our D had been playing well so why gift the other team great field position in that situation? It wasn’t as bad as Frost’s onside kick but it was in a similar vein.

So who is responsible for that, DH or MR? I know Dana calls the plays but doesn’t Rhule actually decide to go for it there? I’ve never been impressed with his in-game coaching and had hope the new coordinators would help him out there.

That one didn't bother me. I didn't care for the one we scored the TD on lol. Crazy how that works.



Holla

 

[Baxter48]

Wasn’t a fan of going for it

 

[anon1765477286]

Had no problem with it.

Only play call I didn't like was the end around to Barney on the last drive, we were moving it fairly well between the tackles and with the pitch to Barney instead of handoff I just felt it was a bad call at that time. Though Barney almost broke one earlier.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was Holgorson that made the decision to go for it though and not Rhule.