Florida State just lost to Houston

[RocketDawg]

Another mighty ACC team just bit the dust. With the exception of Clemson, they all suck this year and most years. And we'll see how Clemson does in a few minutes.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

It is all about the Recruiting...FSU just has so much more talent than an American Conference team...Nationally Ranked Recruiting Classes and more overall talent in the state of Florida...er...scratch those statements.

 

[missouridawg]

It is all about the Recruiting...FSU just has so much more talent than an American Conference team...Nationally Ranked Recruiting Classes and more overall talent in the state of Florida...er...scratch those statements.

someday, you people will learn to look at the entire data set to make a conclusion, instead of a data point.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

FSU has recruited well, and that talent has produced.

FSU's last 5 recruiting class rankings: #1, #3, #12, #4, #7

In all of their last 4 seasons they have played in major (BCS/NY6) bowls, including a NC and a runner up. Only Alabama can claim a better 4 year result. Having to replace a Heisman winner, this is probably a down year for them.

Houston had a really good year, but don't use this as an opportunity to **** on recruiting rankings. Stars matter.

 

[KurtRambis4]

No doubt,

talent matters, but there are a great deal of factors involved in getting talent to produce.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

It's hard for an old Dawg to learn new tricks but I will try to understand.

DO RECRUITING STARS MATTER?

Yes. Overall the "long haul", meaning big sample size, meaning many years, meaning decades...YES. The more talented teams will end up winning the majority of the time. Just like over an extended period of time Doyle Brunson wins more Poker pots, the Casino takes most of gamblers' money, and Kentucky hangs more Basketball banners than George Mason does.

IS MORE TALENT / STARS A "CURE ALL" FIXING EVERYTHING?

Hell No. USA President Calvin Coolidge said nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent---wait did Calvin Coolidge know Huston Nutt personally?! Every so often a young Poker player will beat Doyle Brunson and win a title. Every so often some luck SOB gambler gets rich at a Casino. Every so often (just about every year) a "Cinderella" Basketball team knocks out one of the "Big Boys", George Mason, Weber State, Wichita State, Coppin State, UAB, VCU, Butler, etc. Wildcard Round NFL teams have won the Super Bowl. Buster Douglas knocked Iron Mike's *** out in Tokyo. Memphis beat Peyton Manning & Tennessee in 1996. Memphis beat the talented Black Rebel Land Bear Shark Racists this past year.

BOTTOM LINE / CONCLUSION.

You need talent to win "Big" (to be Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, etc.) But you better have good Coaching and schemes or you will Waste your talent (under achievers Miami, Georgia to a degree, USC, Texas A&M, etc.)

So in short my view is not completely accurate. However, I would say that your view is not completely accurate either. Parody, chaos, serendipity, unpredictability, whatever you want to call it most certainly exists. Being talented will improve your chances, but talent alone is by no means a guarantee of success.

 

[OleMissLogo]

"Parody"

Lol

I'm looking for the link, but one of the Football Study Hall guys did a write up showing that the team with the higher percentage of blue-chip recruits (4&5 star) won like 78% of the time.

Some people will go "so only 3 out of 4" that's not that great, but the average computer formula used in the BCS had a predictive accuracy of 72%.

So if you were a betting man, you would come out better just using recruiting rankings than computer formulas (straight up).

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

When you have over a month to prepare for a game like this anyone can win

 

[was21]

Coaching and team chemistry to name a couple...especially team chemistry

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Every week this season right here on Sixpackspeak.com there has been a "Meltdown" thread, chronicling the lamentations of the fan base of a talented team that lost in embarrassing or heartbreaking fashion. After the statistically improbable defeat the fans start posting wild, crazy, and often profanity riddled statements. You could try to tell them that 78% of the time their team would have won the game, but they don't care. They now are in that suffering 23% and those fans and dead owls don't give a Hoot about the stats at that point.

 

[amcdan2000]

I would say FSU won't be down long. Wish we could have played them.

 

[esplanade91]

FSU's last 5 recruiting class rankings: #1, #3, #12, #4, #7

In all of their last 4 seasons they have played in major (BCS/NY6) bowls, including a NC and a runner up. Only Alabama can claim a better 4 year result. Having to replace a Heisman winner, this is probably a down year for them.

Houston had a really good year, but don't use this as an opportunity to **** on recruiting rankings. Stars matter.

People love to forget that Bama lost to Utah in the Sugar.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

And so the announcers said

It's like Houston wants to be here, ...more than FSU.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

When you played in a playoff game last year and won the NC the year before, you're bound to get trounced by a non-power 5 team in a meaningless (though prestigious) bowl.

 

[dogfan96]

If anybody watched FSU all year, their OL was REALLY young and not that good. What Cook did was amazing behind that line. Golson was up and down, Maguire is only ok and may not start next year. This was a down year for them and they still played in a NY6 game. They'll be fine.