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<blockquote data-quote="Charleston Mountie" data-source="post: 129497777" data-attributes="member: 1427666">History does not support your absolute stance here. Everything that was wrong with the Big East has been inherited by the ACC from their basketball over football mentality to poor attendance at football games to the bastardly half marriage with Notre Dame. You have schools in the ACC willing to jump ship if the right phone rang. Pitt would leave for the Big Ten in a heart beat because they have a PSU obsession. VT would say Virginia Who? if the SEC called. Those are the two least loyal members of the ACC but none of the outside of Duke and Wake Forest are 100% loyal.Is a certainty that the ACC will collapse? Nope. Is a certainty that it wont? Nope. The past say it is a weakly assembled conference and everyone knows that the Big Ten and the SEC are short two schools each. Where are they going to come from? They have both had their hands in the Big 12 and took what they wanted. If they wanted any other Big 12 schools they would have already taken them. Oklahoma could have gone to the SEC but they would not leave behind OSU and the SEC, replied, &quot;no, thanks.&quot; The only place the Big Ten and SEC are going to get #15 and #16 is from the ACC. Do either have to expand? Nope, will they? Probably. When they do, the ACC will dies as it now and become the new AAC/CUSA.You disagree, I know. But all you say is that it wont happen. You ignore historical trend and probable future events by the Big Ten and SEC. You need something to back your view.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charleston Mountie, post: 129497777, member: 1427666"] History does not support your absolute stance here. Everything that was wrong with the Big East has been inherited by the ACC from their basketball over football mentality to poor attendance at football games to the bastardly half marriage with Notre Dame. You have schools in the ACC willing to jump ship if the right phone rang. Pitt would leave for the Big Ten in a heart beat because they have a PSU obsession. VT would say Virginia Who? if the SEC called. Those are the two least loyal members of the ACC but none of the outside of Duke and Wake Forest are 100% loyal. Is a certainty that the ACC will collapse? Nope. Is a certainty that it wont? Nope. The past say it is a weakly assembled conference and everyone knows that the Big Ten and the SEC are short two schools each. Where are they going to come from? They have both had their hands in the Big 12 and took what they wanted. If they wanted any other Big 12 schools they would have already taken them. Oklahoma could have gone to the SEC but they would not leave behind OSU and the SEC, replied, "no, thanks." The only place the Big Ten and SEC are going to get #15 and #16 is from the ACC. Do either have to expand? Nope, will they? Probably. When they do, the ACC will dies as it now and become the new AAC/CUSA. You disagree, I know. But all you say is that it wont happen. You ignore historical trend and probable future events by the Big Ten and SEC. You need something to back your view. [/QUOTE]

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