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<blockquote data-quote="skygusty_rivals" data-source="post: 129432582" data-attributes="member: 1500287"><p>It doesn't matter if we add 2 teams or 4 teams and have a conference championship.&nbsp; 4 slots for 5 conferences is the reality.&nbsp; Some conference is going to be on the outside looking in every year.&nbsp; It will just be some other set of excuses for who is left out.&nbsp; How can you simultaneously say that it will make it easier to not beat each other up and not lessen the schedule?&nbsp; I will grant you the point that it may make it easier to go undefeated within conference, but it will lessen the strength of the schedule for everyone.&nbsp; Adding teams like Memphis and UCF, if not Cinncy and Houston would also give the talking heads more ammunition to disparage the Big12.&nbsp; If Texas and Oklahoma leave at some future date for some unknown reason, it won't matter that the Big12 expanded with the teams that are available today.&nbsp; Without these two teams, the BIG12 has no clout.&nbsp; It would fall below the ACC in any discussion of strength of conferences.&nbsp; There is no remedy for that.&nbsp; I find it hard to believe that a BIG12 conference with any combination of new teams from the pool of BYU, Colorado State, Memphis, Houston, UCF or Cincy is stronger, more stable, worth more money, better football, better fan experience, or higher interest to TV viewers.&nbsp; I find it hard to believe that adding these teams makes the BIG12 so attractive to OK and TX that they would never leave.&nbsp; I understand that you think we will be in a stronger negotiating position with regard to future contracts.&nbsp; I just don't see it.&nbsp; I think we have an expansion committee so that they can talk about all these scenarios and tradeoffs internally.&nbsp; I don't think changes are imminent.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="skygusty_rivals, post: 129432582, member: 1500287"] It doesn't matter if we add 2 teams or 4 teams and have a conference championship. 4 slots for 5 conferences is the reality. Some conference is going to be on the outside looking in every year. It will just be some other set of excuses for who is left out. How can you simultaneously say that it will make it easier to not beat each other up and not lessen the schedule? I will grant you the point that it may make it easier to go undefeated within conference, but it will lessen the strength of the schedule for everyone. Adding teams like Memphis and UCF, if not Cinncy and Houston would also give the talking heads more ammunition to disparage the Big12. If Texas and Oklahoma leave at some future date for some unknown reason, it won't matter that the Big12 expanded with the teams that are available today. Without these two teams, the BIG12 has no clout. It would fall below the ACC in any discussion of strength of conferences. There is no remedy for that. I find it hard to believe that a BIG12 conference with any combination of new teams from the pool of BYU, Colorado State, Memphis, Houston, UCF or Cincy is stronger, more stable, worth more money, better football, better fan experience, or higher interest to TV viewers. I find it hard to believe that adding these teams makes the BIG12 so attractive to OK and TX that they would never leave. I understand that you think we will be in a stronger negotiating position with regard to future contracts. I just don't see it. I think we have an expansion committee so that they can talk about all these scenarios and tradeoffs internally. I don't think changes are imminent. [/QUOTE]

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