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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Buckaineer" data-source="post: 129432424" data-attributes="member: 1428007">It's ok to want expansion with P5 teams.  At some point though you must deal with the reality of the situation which is what seems to get you so twisted in knots.The BIG 12 conference has expansion needs-as evidenced not by posters on message boards saying it but by people like the president of Oklahoma saying it, or the president of West Virginia or several ADs and other leaders.You ignore all the evidence to the contrary to determine in your mind that no teams outside of the P5 are worth anything-yet yearly several P5 programs prove they can in fact be better (if they aren't already and some assuredly are) than multiiple teams in the P5 ranks.  So therefore expansion CAN'T happen.You create fantasies in your mind such as that WVU will be placed in a made up division where they never again play schools from Texas or Oklahoma.  This isn't based on anything but your imagination but you toss it out as fact and rail against expansion because of it.  Problem is, that is only in your head--its NOT REAL.Your "hope" for expansion is something again, that is just fantasy.  The BIG 12s tv contracts expire in 2025.  The ACCs contracts (and grant of rights agreements) expire in 2027.  The BIG 12 must negotiate and secure NEW contracts before 2025--therefore ACC schools are off the docket.  Those schools aren't going anywhere obsession by yourself or not.Now back to the reality of the situation.  OU's president called for expansion.  The conference formed a committee to identify targets.  The committee members have clearly been meeting with presidents and leaders of schools believed to be targets and those target presidents have tweeted photos and brief statements about these meetings.  The BIG 12 has tv contract renewal a bit off still, but knowing they can't wait until the last minute to do something.  Notice the Big Ten for example expanded with Nebraska, then RU and Maryland years ahead of their renegotiations to get those programs integrated into their league and to have evidence to demonstrate to broadcast partners.The Big Ten is about to get new contracts which could change the playing field in financial terms and finances are what keep conferences stable or destabilize them primarily.  The other conferences will respond to that and the BIG 12s members must also--not to mention the SECs contracts set through the mid 2030s will continue to increase gradually through that time.  The BIG 12 must keep its members in the same ballpark and they can't do that by doing nothing.Unlike you, I have no desire to play fantasy, or worry about my personal "wishes" for expansion in the conference--I simply discuss what's actually happening or appears from the available news on the subject to be happening.  We know the conferences has needs and a desire on many fronts to take action-and indeed it seems just under the surface they very possibly are doing that.  There's no reason to leap to some wild conclusion that because OU might make the playoff one year that everything else has changed--especially when Gordon Gee flew out to the university of Houston a day or two ago to meet with the president of that university for some odd reason.  It may be expansion smoke as I stated.  We will find out soon enough.</blockquote>

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