Eddie WOR Post Game Comments

MCKnight

All-Conference
Oct 25, 2012
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"They didn't deserve to play" -in reference to starters

"If I don't see it in the first five minutes Sunday, they won't play either, and that's how it's going to be"

"...simplified practice...when you can't pass,, can't catch, can't make layups, I don't know how you go about your business"


Finally some real anger and concern,, please Eddie, continue to be human, show some emotions and frustration instead of that garbage positive vibe it's a process continue to improve talk we've seen now for two years. You've restored the integrity, now restore some pride in the game
 

DHajekRC84

Heisman
Aug 9, 2001
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Originally posted by MCKnight2004:
"They didn't deserve to play" -in reference to starters

"If I don't see it in the first five minutes Sunday, they won't play either, and that's how it's going to be"

"...simplified practice...when you can't pass,, can't catch, can't make layups, I don't know how you go about your business"


Finally some real anger and concern,, please Eddie, continue to be human, show some emotions and frustration instead of that garbage positive vibe it's a process continue to improve talk we've seen now for two years. You've restored the integrity, now restore some pride in the game

well I gotta admit I like hearing this and actually seeing it materialize..finally. Whatever it takes.
 

Caliknight

Hall of Famer
Sep 21, 2001
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I would have sat those kids 3 games ago and started the walk ons.

Okoro's brick lay up will go viral like Mack's in short order. This team is the bad news bears.
 

ruman

All-American
Nov 30, 2001
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Getting mad and sitting the starters will make people here feel good, until we lose by 50 at Purdue. Then it won't be a good idea
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78CollegeAve

All-Conference
Jul 1, 2001
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What, no ice cream break at practice tomorrow?

Oh boy, that will show 'em who's the boss.
 

Aggs

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Originally posted by ruman:
Getting mad and sitting the starters will make people here feel good, until we lose by 50 at Purdue. Then it won't be a good idea
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I've had enough of #11

Respect his loyalty but as a fan I've had enough
 

RU-Choppin-Ohio

Heisman
Jul 31, 2011
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I like sitting the starters, but, It's a lot easier to send a message to your starters when you have a full roster of Div 1 players. When you have to play 4 walkons to send a message to your starters that gives you an idea about the lack of depth.
 

Knights 1212

All-American
Sep 9, 2003
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I was glad that Eddie let the walk ons play a lot as well as Okoro, Williams, Foreman and Williams. Of the starting 5 the only one who seemed to be playing okay was Myles. He shot 4-6 and made three 3's. He cannot do everything by himself. I'm glad that Foreman scored 10 points. At least he takes it hard to the basket. Jack again was too far away from the basket and several times no one stepped in front of a player driving to the basket. We also left shooters wide open again. Hopefully next season we will improve.
 

ruman

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Nov 30, 2001
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It seems like good bet that Jack will not change his game dramatically with 4 games left in his career here.
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Greene Rice FIG

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Dec 30, 2005
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Originally posted by Aggs:

Originally posted by ruman:
Getting mad and sitting the starters will make people here feel good, until we lose by 50 at Purdue. Then it won't be a good idea
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I've had enough of #11

Respect his loyalty but as a fan I've had enough
Didn't watch the game...had obligations and before I sat down to watch on DVR I asked if the game was within 15 points....

He has terminated my interest in watching. I can't take his lethargy on the defensive end any longer.

I can't make the Indiana game until about 6PM...I am not even bothering anymore. If I knew 11 wasnt playing i might have an interest.
 

shields

Heisman
Aug 5, 2002
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Greene Figg, how about Etou? He disappears in games too. And he has two more years.
 

RU84

All-Conference
May 6, 2003
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Last year the team didn't officially quit until that debacle loss to Louisville in the AAC tourney. Looks like they're mailing it in a little earlier this year.
 

Section114

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Jan 13, 2012
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I didn't waste my time even watching the game. I turned on at 12-5 and turned it off.

Except for Lewis, next years team will be all Eddie's guys- right? You have got to hope the b-ball IQ kicks in and the offense starts to click a little. I know everyone says we don't have as much talent as other teams. To me, we do have as much talent if many cases, but play DUMB basketball and our coach doesn't know how to make us smarter.

I cannot stand watching Kadeem play anymore- half hearted, no enthusiasm and plays no D and misses more 5 foot shots than anyone in college basketball. That's when he isn't jacking up a 3 with 27 on the shot clock or bricking a foul shot!
 
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There's not a single guy on this roster who plays like they are pissed off. Shaq would be the closest thing to that, but he only shows it in spurts.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Dec 30, 2005
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Originally posted by RU84:
Last year the team didn't officially quit until that debacle loss to Louisville in the AAC tourney. Looks like they're mailing it in a little earlier this year.
I definitely think the minutes Jordan played the starters has caught up and players are fatigues physically and mentally. Losing just puts fuel on the fire too. Jordan went all in against Vanderbilt (and really never stopped) game 1 of 3 games in 4 nights. He got the win which we badly at the time needed.

Right now we are shot and playing out the string.
 

Scarlet Shack

Heisman
Feb 3, 2004
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I have been saying this for 2 seasons...with one exception, the players who returned are here in body...that's it. I appreciate their loyality...as it is the difference between being 10-12 wins and 4 wins in the last years...

But ...but I am disappointed that they have ONE college career and just can't lay it on the line every night...

Pay attention when the lay ups and dunks are being made by the opposition...and who is on the floor

People completely underestimated the mess Eddie was left...

Now...NEXT YEAR there is NO EXCUSES for this type of effort. ZERO. NIL. NADA

I can live with turnovers...and missed shots next year...especially with a young team

But I want to see 13 guys on the floor ready to run threw a wall for each other and the school the represent.

Eddie MUST demand this of anyone who returns...or else the end of the bench they go
 

Greene Rice FIG

Heisman
Dec 30, 2005
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Originally posted by Scarlet Shack:


I can live with turnovers...and missed shots next year...especially with a young team

But I want to see 13 guys on the floor ready to run threw a wall for each other and the school the represent.

Eddie MUST demand this of anyone who returns...or else the end of the bench they go
+1,000,000 ^ 1,000,000
 

DoctorCrip

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Feb 1, 2006
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Originally posted by Greene Rice FIG:


Originally posted by RU84:
Last year the team didn't officially quit until that debacle loss to Louisville in the AAC tourney. Looks like they're mailing it in a little earlier this year.
I definitely think the minutes Jordan played the starters has caught up and players are fatigues physically and mentally. Losing just puts fuel on the fire too. Jordan went all in against Vanderbilt (and really never stopped) game 1 of 3 games in 4 nights. He got the win which we badly at the time needed.

Right now we are shot and playing out the string.
This is a completely accurate post. We might as well also throw in that the talent on this team is extremely limited, and no one has consistently played above his talent level.

I think there are only 4 players who would play on an average Big 10 team:

1) Mack is a loyal warrior, and deserves better. However, on a regular basis, he was forced, at 5'10" to play 40 mins a game, be the only one on the team that can handle the ball, and be the leading scorer with opposing teams, every game, game planning toward stopping him.
2) Jack is an enigma, like we have had many times before -- Herve, Inman, Donnell Lumpkin, etc. For whatever reason, his talent has not equated to consistent production. Low basketball IQ many times, and questionable coordination. I appreciate him. His defense is lax, but I don't think its a matter of not working hard, as there are many stories about him putting in serious work in the gym at midnight (albeit on his jumper and not defense -- but shows effort and wanting to get better)
3) and 4) Etou and Foreman could at some point in their careers be solid Big 10 players on a decent team, but this team does their growth no favors. They are inexperienced and inconsistent, and often times look disinterested. But talent wise --- they can hang.

Mike Williams plays hard, but at this point is an undersized shooting guard that can't shoot, and Doorson looks like a hardworking, rugged project who may at some point develop into a guy who could average 7 and 6 in the A10.

Nobody else on the team would ever sniff playing time on an NCAA tourney team.
 

RUJMM78

Heisman
Jul 25, 2001
26,190
12,450
113
Frustration by the head coach won't change the outcomes on the score board..The lack of talent combined with very little evidence of player development and execution of basic fundamentals leaves this program in desperation mode.The future also remains bleak on and off the court and I simply don't see any plan of action to change the direction toward Littlepage total futility.I feel sorry for Jordan because I doubt he fully understood the obstacles at Rutgers prior to accepting the job.
 

higgins3

All-Conference
Dec 15, 2012
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Loyal, no doubt. Mack is consistently giving effort, But Jack is lost a lot, takes ill advised shots, turns the ball over a ton.

People that keep saying you don't know how this team will win without these two next year should think differently. Mack is hard to replace, but Jack unfortunately just isn't that great. Nothing a team will desperately miss. Decent offense, but shoots too much, dribbles too much, and is lost 80% of the time on defense.

Just get past the fact that Jack not returning is not a huge detrimental loss to next years team and it will become a lot easier to throw on your Rutgers Basketball shirt in the future.
 

higgins3

All-Conference
Dec 15, 2012
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When Jack only played inside, i thought he had a shot. Then i started to watch his defense and him dribbling the ball out of a press and turning it over.
 

Pritz9

Redshirt
May 24, 2005
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Why can't EJ get through to them? Can he? Why will things be any different next year? Do we have a bunch of Macks (attitude-wise) coming in next year?
 

DownStream

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Feb 18, 2010
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Loved it. You can see his frustration during his press conferences. It's all about effort guys - we lose by 20 with you or we lose by 30 with you on the bench.
 

RUsojo

Heisman
Dec 17, 2010
29,405
28,548
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No one with an inkling of a basketball IQ thought Jack could play in the NBA. Rutgers fans across both sports have "4 Star Syndrome" and think anyone who has that high school accolade has a future at the next level. It's just not the case. Production is the first prerequisite and Jack doesn't get it done.