Double dribble not called

richthedentist

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I don’t understand how not one of the announcers said anything about Jerome double dribbling before the final foul was called. He was dribbling the ball and dribble it off his foot. Wow they just showed it again and said it was how do they miss that!!!
 

BillyC80

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Yes, with 4 seconds left, Gerome dribbled the balll off his own right heel, then picked it up with both hands and started dribbling again. Refs and announcers all missed it.
 

fischy5000

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I think auburn team would eventually be able to stomach the last foul call because it legitimately was a foul (just one not always called). The fact that the ref stared at the play and didn’t call the double dribble in front of his face is going to be tough for them to swallow for all time.
 

tfio

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I think auburn team would eventually be able to stomach the last foul call because it legitimately was a foul (just one not always called). The fact that the ref stared at the play and didn’t call the double dribble in front of his face is going to be tough for them to swallow for all time.

That's that bad part about it. The ref was staring right at it...that means the ref simply didn't know the rules
 

KnightTerrors

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It was definitely a double dribble but in real time I didn’t notice. Assumed it was deflected rather than off his foot. Definitely a missed call though.
 

RUDave_01

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The guys in the "studio" made an interesting point that the way the ball bounced off his foot was very unusual and that might have played into it not being called.
 

fischy5000

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It was definitely a double dribble but in real time I didn’t notice. Assumed it was deflected rather than off his foot. Definitely a missed call though.
It’s the only thing I can think of that the ref somehow considered it a fluid stream of dribbling instead of counting that moment of picking up the ball and then a 2nd round of dribbling.
 

Dpgru

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All I can think is that the ref thought the Auburn defender touched it but it was clearly a double dribble. Strange.
 
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Mr_Twister

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Stop being “Game Lawyers”. The dribbler was being closely guarded. In real-time the official right there probably assumed the defender deflected the ball. Let the game breathe. The game is contested in real-time, not in replay or frame-by-frame mode. If you re-examine every call the games will be longer than college football games.
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers

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Was a double (and yes, I called it live).. but so many times you see that kind of thing not called.. guys losing the ball and then gathering it in and dribbling again.

But did you see how handsy Auburn was the whole game? Not long before that they pulled a guy's arm off the ball and there was no call.

Refs swallow the whistle mostly in these tourney games.. some teams take advantage of that. Have you ever seen so many regular season games with so few fouls at the end of the game?

As I type this the refs just ignored like 3 fouls in a row by Texas Tech.
 
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RU848789

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Nobody noticed at all in real time. Hard to find fault.

C'mon, refs should know the rules and make the call. I'm not one of those people who think one call means all that much, as there are 40 minutes of calls in the game, but they should've gotten that one.
 

fischy5000

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Was a double (and yes, I called it live).. but so many times you see that kind of thing not called.. guys losing the ball and then gathering it in and dribbling again.

But did you see how handsy Auburn was the whole game? Not long before that they pulled a guy's arm off the ball and there was no call.

Refs swallow the whistle mostly in these tourney games.. some teams take advantage of that. Have you ever seen so many regular season games with so few fouls at the end of the game?

As I type this the refs just ignored like 3 fouls in a row by Texas Tech.
I don't mind the whistle swallowing in general but if that's the philosophy the ref wants to go with then he doesn't call that foul at the end to give the 3 free throws.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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I don't mind the whistle swallowing in general but if that's the philosophy the ref wants to go with then he doesn't call that foul at the end to give the 3 free throws.
But that was a very easy call.. as they explained.. you cannot throw the shooters body off like that... I also noticed the ref was not looking at the shot at all.. I hate it when I see a ref looking at the hoop to see if the ball is gonna go in before he decides to make a call.

Well I did not want an ACC team in the final and I wanted a Big Ten team.. 2 losses today for me.
 
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wheezer

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I don't mind the whistle swallowing in general but if that's the philosophy the ref wants to go with then he doesn't call that foul at the end to give the 3 free throws.

But you can’t give the defense the edge either, allowing them to foul on the most important shot of the game.

I always thought a ref should call a game as though he had no idea of how much time is left and what the score is

That would be in theory, and I am sure that it often is not that way
 

G- RUnit

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Again why you are of course correct absolutely nobody noticed in real time. Coaches, players, refs, announcers, color commentary, how many people in arena?

Actually find it fascinating. If a tree falls in a forest....
 

RUonBrain

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Again why you are of course correct absolutely nobody noticed in real time. Coaches, players, refs, announcers, color commentary, how many people in arena?

Actually find it fascinating. If a tree falls in a forest....

You would have thought Pearl would have been screaming for the call
Maybe he was
Not that it would have changed anything

I was surprised Barkley missed it, too
If he missed it, that kind of tells you something about it

Maybe TV (even real time) had a better angle than the refs at that moment for some reason
 

RUJMM78

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I was more disappointed in the foul call on the 3 point shot that gave Virginia the winning points.There were far more obvious fouls during the game that weren't called .Both final four games were defensive battles where shots were contested on every possession.If you like defense ,these were games to video tape for further review.If fans prefer watching offense/scoring ,the remote was used to change channels.
 

TDIrish27

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Bang Bang play and they missed------everyone did.

The Foul that put Guy on the line was a foul-----not a doubt in my mind about that.

Same play that put Carson Edwards on the line and sent the Purdue-Tenn game into OT only it was in the opposite corner.
 
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tru2ru1

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In real-time the official right there probably assumed the defender deflected the ball.
The refs job is not to "assume" anything, they need to watch the play & enforce any rules violations, to assume means they were not watching what was happening
 

LC-88

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Id wager a few bucks that if the teams were flipped, i.e. Auburn had the ball, the double dribble would have been called. ACC bias.
 

Johnny Biggs

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So the ref who was staring directly at the play “assumed” the ball was deflected? I was watching on tv and could see the ball went off his foot. Terrible job by the refs not to know the rules of the game they are getting paid to know.
 

TDIrish27

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Id wager a few bucks that if the teams were flipped, i.e. Auburn had the ball, the double dribble would have been called. ACC bias.

That's such an easy statement to make when you never have to back it up.
 

RAC’emUp

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Again why you are of course correct absolutely nobody noticed in real time. Coaches, players, refs, announcers, color commentary, how many people in arena?

Actually find it fascinating. If a tree falls in a forest....

Not everyone missed it. I started this post before the foul shots and no one had mentioned it on tv yet. I am sure many other viewers were also screaming “that’s a double dribble” at their tv’s as it happened. One possibility for the non-call, I think, is that the double dribble rule, like the traveling rule, has become so liberalized that it’s almost never called anymore. So perhaps the ref just wasn’t ready to make that call because he never does. He certainly blew it Big-time though. It was not a hard call at all.
 

Big East Beast

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Double dribble is probably the easiest violation to see and not controversial.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone other than the player who committed the violation argue a double dribble call.

For the ref to not see that or swallow his whistle is inexcusable and really makes it harder for me to justify yelling at the refs in my son’s 8U games.