Dont Mind the CFB Blowouts

maly

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This is going to happen every year.

The home field games against teams that barely snuck in are more often than not going to be blowouts.

I loved the atmosphere at South Bend and Happy Valley.

The playoff is young. Great games are coming.
Great first round games are just going to be a bonus.
 

TripleOption67

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Isn't that a pretty good indication that we don't need a 12 team playoff?
Exactly my thoughts. Everyone wanted more, more, more. Now you get games like this where it's dilluted. I'm sure they'll be upsets, etc but until they decide to take the best teams regardless of conference championships this is what we're going to see.

Sometimes, less is best.
 

mgbreeze

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Isn't that a pretty good indication that we don't need a 12 team playoff?
There will be upsets, just not often. You know, like March madness. We don't really need the first round of March Madness either I guess. In fact, we'd all probably be happier just watching less football and less basketball. Myself, these games have more juice than the Salute to Veterans etc. Bowls, so I'll just enjoy it.
 

realHuskerDrew

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Frankly, we didn’t even need to expand beyond 4 teams. But the expansion made it more exciting but beyond 8 was not needed.
The 9-12 spots will never win the title… like, ever
 
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Isn't that a pretty good indication that we don't need a 12 team playoff?
Do you hate college football or something?! We should be hopefully expanding the playoffs and getting even more teams in! More teams means more games! Blowouts happen in college football! I still love watching! I will never understand takes like this🤦🏼‍♂️
 
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c3o

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Frankly, we didn’t even need to expand beyond 4 teams. But the expansion made it more exciting but beyond 8 was not needed.
The 9-12 spots will never win the title… like, ever
Yes they will.
 

SLOHusker

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Isn't that a pretty good indication that we don't need a 12 team playoff?
Not really. We were forever being told that undefeated teams from lesser conferences deserve a shot. Now they are getting it. They should reseed so teams like Texas get a bye and not Boise St.
 

bama_husker

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Do you hate college football or something?! We should be hopefully expanding the playoffs and getting even more teams in! More teams means more games! Blowouts happen in college football! I’m still love watching! I will never understand takes like this🤦🏼‍♂️
I like 16, 5 conference winners in, seed by rankings. This year first round would be Clem @ OR, SC @UGA, Ole Miss @UT, Miami@PSU, ASU@ND, Bama@tOSU, SMU@Tenn, Boise@Indiana. College football is never going to be as balanced as the NFL. Usually you make up for it with volume. There'll be some close games.
 
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I like 16, 5 conference winners in, seed by rankings. This year first round would be Clem @ OR, SC @UGA, Ole Miss @UT, Miami@PSU, Bama@ND, SMU@Tenn, Boise@Indiana. College football is never going to be as balanced as the NFL. Usually you make up for it with volume. There'll be some close games.
I like that set up. I think we will se something close to this sooner the later!
 

jteten

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There will be upsets, just not often. You know, like March madness. We don't really need the first round of March Madness either I guess. In fact, we'd all probably be happier just watching less football and less basketball. Myself, these games have more juice than the Salute to Veterans etc. Bowls, so I'll just enjoy it.
Yeah, this. Voting for less high leverage football is incredibly odd. The expanded playoff made so many games relevant that would not have been so during the last 2 weeks and conf championship games. I’m pretty sure the average Super Bowl margin of victory is around 10 historically. We still play the games.
 

cavalot

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This is exactly how it should be going. The higher seeds are taking advantage of homefield and are going to win these games more times than not. But there will be upsets and there will also be times when lower seated teams are going to be clear favorites. It happens in every playoff at every level. In the end the best team will be left standing. It's beautiful!
 

WHCSC

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What does it hurt having 12 instead of 8 or 4? Seriously?
 

steinek11

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What’s funny is that they used to argue about which teams deserve to be in the four team playoff and that expanding it would settle most of that. The convoluted arguments they came up with for teams that didn’t make it or teams that barely made it made my brain melt. After a while, I just tuned out entirely. It will get way more interesting when we’re back down to four teams playing for all the marbles. The first round games are only interesting to fans of those teams.
 

steinek11

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What does it hurt having 12 instead of 8 or 4? Seriously?
It doesn’t, once they got past the pretext of an expanded playoff being bad for student athletes. No one even brings that up anymore.
 

Huskers123456

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What’s funny is that they used to argue about which teams deserve to be in the four team playoff and that expanding it would settle most of that. The convoluted arguments they came up with for teams that didn’t make it or teams that barely made it made my brain melt. After a while, I just tuned out entirely. It will get way more interesting when we’re back down to four teams playing for all the marbles. The first round games are only interesting to fans of those teams.
It's not about the argument. It's about putting it out there for everyone to see. The quality of conferences will be out there for everyone to see after a couple years.
 

jteten

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What’s funny is that they used to argue about which teams deserve to be in the four team playoff and that expanding it would settle most of that. The convoluted arguments they came up with for teams that didn’t make it or teams that barely made it made my brain melt. After a while, I just tuned out entirely. It will get way more interesting when we’re back down to four teams playing for all the marbles. The first round games are only interesting to fans of those teams.
False
 

SLOHusker

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What does it hurt having 12 instead of 8 or 4? Seriously?
Agree. I would go all the way to 16 without 1st-round byes. Include the conference champions of Conf USA, AAC, MAC, and Sun Belt and seed based entirely on final playoff ranking. Conference champions get home-field advantage in round one, unless paired against a higher ranked conf champion seed.

If that was done this year you would have had:
16. Jacksonville St (Conf USA) at 1. Oregon (Big 10)
15. Marshall (Sun Belt) at Georgia (SEC)
3. Texas at 14. Ohio (MAC)
4. PSU at 13. Army (AAC)
5. Notre Dame at 12. Clemson (ACC)
6. Ohio St at 11. ASU (Big 12)
10. SMU at 7. Tennessee
8. Indiana at 9. Boise St (MWC)

In the case of a team like Marshall, more players likely would have stayed out of the portal knowing they were a playoff team. However, any team which loses 25% or more of its starters to the portal will lose the auto-bid and be replaced by the next highest ranked at-large (in this case Alabama).
 
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bmb81664

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Agree. I would go all the way to 16 without 1st-round byes. Include the conference champions of Conf USA, AAC, MAC, and Sun Belt and seed based entirely on final playoff ranking. Conference champions get home-field advantage in round one, unless paired against a higher ranked conf champion seed.

If that was done this year you would have had:
16. Jacksonville St (Conf USA) at 1. Oregon (Big 10)
15. Marshall (Sun Belt) at Georgia (SEC)
3. Texas at 14. Ohio (MAC)
4. PSU at 13. Army (AAC)
5. Notre Dame at 12. Clemson (ACC)
6. Ohio St at 11. ASU (Big 12)
10. SMU at 7. Tennessee
8. Indiana at 9. Boise St (MWC)

In the case of a team like Marshall, more players likely would have stayed out of the portal knowing they were a playoff team. However, any team which loses 25% or more of its starters to the portal will lose the auto-bid and be replaced by the next highest ranked at-large (in this case Alabama).
 

HankMoody78

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You will love the playoffs when Nebraska makes it
If you're not a legit top 3 team you aren't going to win the NC. I would love a marquee bowl game as much as a playoff game that doesn't matter. All this is has done is increase ad revenue for tv networks.
 

Redscarlet

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Agree. I would go all the way to 16 without 1st-round byes. Include the conference champions of Conf USA, AAC, MAC, and Sun Belt and seed based entirely on final playoff ranking. Conference champions get home-field advantage in round one, unless paired against a higher ranked conf champion seed.

If that was done this year you would have had:
16. Jacksonville St (Conf USA) at 1. Oregon (Big 10)
15. Marshall (Sun Belt) at Georgia (SEC)
3. Texas at 14. Ohio (MAC)
4. PSU at 13. Army (AAC)
5. Notre Dame at 12. Clemson (ACC)
6. Ohio St at 11. ASU (Big 12)
10. SMU at 7. Tennessee
8. Indiana at 9. Boise St (MWC)

In the case of a team like Marshall, more players likely would have stayed out of the portal knowing they were a playoff team. However, any team which loses 25% or more of its starters to the portal will lose the auto-bid and be replaced by the next highest ranked at-large (in this case Alabama).
What a waste of time this would have been. Not to mention it would screw up the Major bowls which is the New Year’s6.
 

TripleOption67

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Agree. I would go all the way to 16 without 1st-round byes. Include the conference champions of Conf USA, AAC, MAC, and Sun Belt and seed based entirely on final playoff ranking. Conference champions get home-field advantage in round one, unless paired against a higher ranked conf champion seed.

If that was done this year you would have had:
16. Jacksonville St (Conf USA) at 1. Oregon (Big 10)
15. Marshall (Sun Belt) at Georgia (SEC)
3. Texas at 14. Ohio (MAC)
4. PSU at 13. Army (AAC)
5. Notre Dame at 12. Clemson (ACC)
6. Ohio St at 11. ASU (Big 12)
10. SMU at 7. Tennessee
8. Indiana at 9. Boise St (MWC)

In the case of a team like Marshall, more players likely would have stayed out of the portal knowing they were a playoff team. However, any team which loses 25% or more of its starters to the portal will lose the auto-bid and be replaced by the next highest ranked at-large (in this case Alabama).
No. That would be absolutely horrible. Basically playing another game that doesn't need played.

If they're going to keep the playoffs as is, it HAS to be the 12 BEST teams seeded accordingly. Then reseeded after the first games, and so on and so on.
 

Dean Pope

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Exactly my thoughts. Everyone wanted more, more, more. Now you get games like this where it's dilluted. I'm sure they'll be upsets, etc but until they decide to take the best teams regardless of conference championships this is what we're going to see.

Sometimes, less is best.
As in "everyone", 95% of that comes from people who stand to gain from having more games and the rest is made up of the sheep who buy into what they are selling on those social media feeds & networks. The rest of us know that it isn't needed and don't give a sh*t if someone who would gain from it tries to sell us their B.S.
 

Dean Pope

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There will be upsets, just not often. You know, like March madness. We don't really need the first round of March Madness either I guess. In fact, we'd all probably be happier just watching less football and less basketball. Myself, these games have more juice than the Salute to Veterans etc. Bowls, so I'll just enjoy it.
That is the only reason that an expanded playoff is a good thing. More games that matter, in theory players will look horribly selfish if they opt out so most won't. And it should kill off some of the meaningless bowl games. It's still overall a bad idea but at least there's one positive we can take from it.
 

Dean Pope

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When Nebraska gets in and they put up a Tennessee or SMU results, love won’t the the four letter word for many
That's exactly right. Expanding the playoff waters down the accomplishment of making it. Ohio State played a great game the other night, but their fan base was not excited about making it. Tennessee fans bought up extra tickets. Ryan Day won't be getting fired this year, but rest assured there will be firings and angry fan bases down the road after their team doesn't perform.
 

Dean Pope

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What does it hurt having 12 instead of 8 or 4? Seriously?
Alabama got left out at 12. Let's go to 16. BYU won 10 games and got left out. Let's go to 20. What would that hurt?

I prefer a four team playoff. There's usually not four teams that stand out above the rest so just like with any format, there will be teams that get left out. And then lower the number of bowl games to 20. Make it an accomplishment to make a bowl game again. Win eight games and you have a shot. Then tie all NIL money to mandatory bowl game participation so that a team doesn't lose 10-20 players to the portal or draft.

(And yes, that will never happen so why do I even bother...)
 
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Alabama got left out at 12. Let's go to 16. BYU won 10 games and got left out. Let's go to 20. What would that hurt?

I prefer a four team playoff. There's usually not four teams that stand out above the rest so just like with any format, there will be teams that get left out. And then lower the number of bowl games to 20. Make it an accomplishment to make a bowl game again. Win eight games and you have a shot. Then tie all NIL money to mandatory bowl game participation so that a team doesn't lose 10-20 players to the portal or draft.

(And yes, that will never happen so why do I even bother...)
I prefer no playoffs, we never should have expanded to 2 teams. Go back to the era of a random newspaper declaring the national champion.

We also need to get rid of the NCAA volleyball tournament as well. Pitt was clearly the #1 team and it was beyond dumb they had to prove it in a tournament when they proved it during the regular season.
 

Dean Pope

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I prefer no playoffs, we never should have expanded to 2 teams. Go back to the era of a random newspaper declaring the national champion.

We also need to get rid of the NCAA volleyball tournament as well. Pitt was clearly the #1 team and it was beyond dumb they had to prove it in a tournament when they proved it during the regular season.
Don't be so dramatic.
 

GBRforLife1

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Isn't that a pretty good indication that we don't need a 12 team playoff?
No, for multiple reasons.

You say that until there is an upset. That's the drama and competition a playoff brings. Just because it didn't happen yet isnt a reason to cancel the playoffs.

The playoff validity isn't decided based on a couple games between high and low seed teams, it should be based on what gives you the best opportunity to find a true champion.
 

Sporty

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Frankly, we didn’t even need to expand beyond 4 teams. But the expansion made it more exciting but beyond 8 was not needed.
The 9-12 spots will never win the title… like, ever
And when one does people like you will not acknowledge it anyway! By your parameters College Basketball needs to go back to like 24 teams!