Does Big Ten regret adding Rutgers?

ru66

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that article is realistic and right on target--guys around here should read it
 

RUwoz

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The only thing is, when will we win a big ten championship?? Every school should win at least one every year, or every other year at worst, there are just so many sports that we have to
 

ru66

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"It might be a fun read that the Big Ten has remorse, but it's somewhat irrelevant," Delany said. "I can't name an institution during my (26-year) tenure that has not had a serious personnel or ethical issue at one point. These are high-profile situations with lots of exposure. I wish we never had any of it at our schools, but I'm realistic."
 

NickyNewark51

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that article is realistic and right on target--guys around here should read it
Everytime i click on it they try to make you buy the subscription then when you say not now it spins away to other topics.
 

AreYouNUTS

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Delaney's still on board. But it's clear we need to clean up our act.

he's not only "on board," he's 100% spot-on, and we're not even taking into account tv ratings, cable subscriptions, etc, in his quote that begins "It might be fun...."

This is, essentially, a "nothing to see hear" article, BUT, I don't blame Teddy for wanting to get some "clicks" on a Thursday afternoon!
 
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e5fdny

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"It might be a fun read that the Big Ten has remorse, but it's somewhat irrelevant," Delany said. "I can't name an institution during my (26-year) tenure that has not had a serious personnel or ethical issue at one point. These are high-profile situations with lots of exposure. I wish we never had any of it at our schools, but I'm realistic."

And some of those institutions (for better or for worse)...

 

Upstream

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From the article:

This "Floodgate" scandal has been ugly, but Rutgers has not cornered the Big Ten market on embarrassment. In August alone, Minnesota's athletic director resigned amid numerous sexual harassment allegations and Illinois fired its football coach over charges of mistreatment of players.

Go back a little and you'll recall Ohio State flushing ethics down the toilet to win a Sugar Bowl, gross academic misconduct at Minnesota and the worst of them all, the Jerry Sandusky scandal at Penn State.​

So, as Rutgers fans should rightfully be embarrassed, we aren't unique.
 

RUich

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Unfortunately, we are still pretty much wet behind the ears in terms of our membership. Not that some of these things that have happened are not good, but had we been around without incident for some more time, it would probably not seem as bad as it looks.
No doubt just about every other program in the BIG has had its own problems.
 
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mildone_rivals

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I was at Subway last week and Delaney was there having lunch w/a couple people from the Big Ten administrative staff.

He was recounting for them how he encouraged Flood to have the impermissible contact w/the teacher; how he had one staffer get close to the RU FB program an place the idea for the home invasions and another staffer initiate the fight that led to the assault charges; and how little he had to pay "that little vixen" to make up stuff about Leonte.

The whole time he was saying all this, he was giggling and rubbing his hands together. Then he picked up the latest Neilsen ratings report, smacked both his underlings in the face with it and laughingly said "scandal this mother__ers".

So yeah, I think RU isn't in much danger w/the Big Ten. At least not until after the new TV contracts are done.
 

RUSONIC

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I believe Delaney works for Rutgers, not the other way around. We are not probationary members or rent a members, we are a member. Now I do not know what the protocol is to have a member kicked out, but its not up to the commissioner.
 

mal359

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The biggest difference is that none of the other school's scandals occured within a year of joining the conference.
 

MozRU

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From the article:

This "Floodgate" scandal has been ugly, but Rutgers has not cornered the Big Ten market on embarrassment. In August alone, Minnesota's athletic director resigned amid numerous sexual harassment allegations and Illinois fired its football coach over charges of mistreatment of players.

Go back a little and you'll recall Ohio State flushing ethics down the toilet to win a Sugar Bowl, gross academic misconduct at Minnesota and the worst of them all, the Jerry Sandusky scandal at Penn State.​

So, as Rutgers fans should rightfully be embarrassed, we aren't unique.
TROOOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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MADHAT1

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I bringing in Rutgers is going to increase revenue, doubt the B1G is sorry that Rutgers is a member.
Could be fans of other schools are sorry , because they see RU fans don't know how to circle the wagons ( the right way)
when things look bad.
 
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The problem is not Rutgers. It is bringing minor league masquerading into an academic institution.
I have to laugh when people go out of their way to look for answers when it is right in front of you.
The coaches are not professors and athletes are not scholars. They should not be in college.
Until that is fixed, you will always have this problem.
 

Retired711

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I think we are years away from any real B1G remorse, and that it will occur only if our teams are uncompetitive and thus not attracting eyeballs. (Barchi has stressed that he understands we have to be competitive.) The timing of the arrests/contact is bad, but I can't imagine that it's a real problem in terms of membership. It would be good, though, not to have more embarrassing incidents.
 

RUinPinehurst

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"It might be a fun read that the Big Ten has remorse, but it's somewhat irrelevant," Delany said. "I can't name an institution during my (26-year) tenure that has not had a serious personnel or ethical issue at one point. These are high-profile situations with lots of exposure. I wish we never had any of it at our schools, but I'm realistic."

You do realize Delaney is a UNC grad, right? Hah!
 

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Despite our current problems and overall lack of success on the playing fields, I think that RU has still been an asset to the B1G. Certainly our membership has increased BTN revenues and that is benefiting all conference members, aside from us + UMd at the moment. We had 3 teams that were ranked last year - women's soccer and basketball as well as wrestling. Our football team was 5-0 in OOC games including the bowl victory that made the difference between the B1G having a winning or losing record in the post-season. And our academic ranking only enhances the B1G's reputation in that arena as well.
 

Abro1975

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RU gave the Big 10 a Bowl win (against North Carolina P5) this past bowl season, I didn't hear any complaints then. Wrestling had terrific Big 10 attendence numbers, no complaints then either.
 
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RU31trap

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I personally thought it was a big mistake to join the B10 conference. I've been consistent with that thought since the idea of getting an invite began to circulate. I've always been a big advocate of the ACC because I felt we had much more in common with those schools. Also, think about what Rutgrs had to endure and inherit. To me it's not a question whether Delany regrets his decision it will come down to did Rutgers make the right move?
 
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I personally thought it was a big mistake to join the B10 conference. I've been consistent with that thought since the idea of getting an invite began to circulate. I've always been a big advocate of the ACC because I felt we had much more in common with those schools. Also, think about what Rutgrs had to endure, inherit and into years answer some tough questions. To me it's not a question whether Delaney regrets his decision it will come down to did Rutgers make the right move?
You're just nutty. The ACC has fSU and UNC which if you ask me, are bigger embarrassments than us. The B1G is tradition personified. We may not "fit" "competitively quite yet, but we'll get there.
 

mychaljohn

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The problem is not Rutgers. It is bringing minor league masquerading into an academic institution.
I have to laugh when people go out of their way to look for answers when it is right in front of you.
The coaches are not professors and athletes are not scholars. They should not be in college.
Until that is fixed, you will always have this problem.
This post has been rejected on the basis of making fun of the academic integrity of football players, while not doing so in a remotely cogent manner.
 

RU31trap

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You're just nutty. The ACC has fSU and UNC which if you ask me, are bigger embarrassments than us. The B1G is tradition personified. We may not "fit" "competitively quite yet, but we'll get there.
You're just nutty. The ACC has fSU and UNC which if you ask me, are bigger embarrassments than us. The B1G is tradition personified. We may not "fit" "competitively quite yet, but we'll get there.
I much rather play FSU, Pitt, Cuse, Georgia Tech, Miami, Duke and Louisville. I fully understand that academically they don't measure up but from a football perspective they would provide a more exciting atmosphere.
 

RU4Real

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I much rather play FSU, Pitt, Cuse, Georgia Tech, Miami, Duke and Louisville. I fully understand that academically they don't measure up but from a football perspective they be much more exciting games.

Huh?

Per USN&WR:

Rutgers: 72
FSU: 96
Pitt: 66
Syracuse: 61
Georgia Tech: 36
Miami: 51
Duke: 6
Louisville: 168
 
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RU31trap

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Who doesn't Duke "measure up" to, academically?
To be completely honest I think Duke is an excellent University. The point to my post is that I'm happy to be in the Big Ten but I would have preferred if we got an invite to the ACC. I respect all conferences for what they bring to the table. To me personally the ACC provides a more exciting brand of football.
 

wheezer

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I much rather play FSU, Pitt, Cuse, Georgia Tech, Miami, Duke and Louisville. I fully understand that academically they don't measure up but from a football perspective they would provide a more exciting atmosphere.
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Nothing stirs the juices like playing Ohio state Michigan, Michigan state etc..... Not one ACC team comes close..... You could argue that the ACC is better because they are more local rivals, but that is the end of the appeal.

We are in the best place for us.
 

cRURah

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Rutgers showed such shortsightedness in not investing in the B1G opportunity. We could be killing it right now if only we weren't so cheap, embarrassing the university and State of NJ crying about how poor we are. Instead we're dealing with stories that make us a national laughingstock without the offset of having a football program that is feared and respected on the football field. The worst possible start to our time in the B1G has happened as RU is a punching bag both on and off the field. Take a lesson from UConn and see what they did with the Big East in basketball. They turned a minor program in MBB and WBB into national dominance. What do you think UConn would do with an invitation to the B1G? I guarantee they would hire the best coaching staff in the game and win a B1G football championship within the first five years.
 
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