Dirk takes the program for a walk
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Meh..nothing new in the article for anyone that has been paying attention for the last 20ish years.
People just have to pause on the frustration and anger and let Frost have breathing room and plenty of time to fix it.
It does nobody any good to live in a sorrow state because of the past. It's always darker before the sun shines bright.
People just have to pause on the frustration and anger and let Frost have breathing room and plenty of time to fix it.
It does nobody any good to live in a sorrow state because of the past. It's always darker before the sun shines bright.
My final thought was "Can you see the strain?" Now it's the fans fault too that we've struggled. Whatever. Disappointed a turnaround hasn't happened quicker. Glad Frost hasn't accepted mediocrity is ok as his mantra. There's hope.
Btw give Dirk a participation trophy.
I would argue its not tradition that looms over the program, its social media. Its becoming increasingly obvious this isn't a short term fix, and its an unknown how long it will take Frost to fix it or the ultimate success he will have in doing so. Social media isn't designed for the "long-term" - people are naturally focused on the here-and-now which hasn't been good for a quite awhile. If you want to get more depressed about Husker football, come to the message boards after another loss. There is simply not enough good news to keep the message boards active unless you delve into the negative side of things. Wait till next year" discussions only go so far. We all might feel better if we moth-balled the message boards for awhile - but its like a car accident, you know likely won't like what you see, but you can't help not look.
Was just mentioning to the wife last night that (and hold on for a minute before bashing...) this is more of a societal matter than anything else. When our kids (for the most part) are raised to expect everything now why is this no surprise that some expect the same for the program.
Lessons in life prove otherwise and staying the course and maintaining consistency is a key to establishing success.
Lessons in life prove otherwise and staying the course and maintaining consistency is a key to establishing success.
I don't know Dirk, but I consider him an excellent reporter and writer.
In this, though, he's expressed all of our darkest fears regarding Husker football. Not a shred of hope left in that scarred heart.
Methinks someone ought to hide all sharp objects in Dirk's home and workspace.
In this, though, he's expressed all of our darkest fears regarding Husker football. Not a shred of hope left in that scarred heart.
Methinks someone ought to hide all sharp objects in Dirk's home and workspace.
It's not society or thuh muhlenniuls or social media, it's Saban and Stoops and Meyer. They came into programs with loads of talent but not many wins and turned it around fast. Two years. First year for Urban.
Everyone forgets about Dan Hawkins, Rich Rod, Greg Schiano, all the guys who flamed out at the "step up" job.
They just pencil in the year two bump like it's a natural byproduct of a good coach and not the result of having a well-proven system and a lot of damn good players.
NU sucks and Scott got hired to do a quick flip but every time he opens a wall it's full of mold, rot and termites.
We don't have they players yet and the coaches are learning valuable lessons, too.
Everyone forgets about Dan Hawkins, Rich Rod, Greg Schiano, all the guys who flamed out at the "step up" job.
They just pencil in the year two bump like it's a natural byproduct of a good coach and not the result of having a well-proven system and a lot of damn good players.
NU sucks and Scott got hired to do a quick flip but every time he opens a wall it's full of mold, rot and termites.
We don't have they players yet and the coaches are learning valuable lessons, too.
In my opinion, this is a lazy and inaccurate take. This is typical of every generation that inherently thinks the next one is lazy, privileged, and ruining the world. This has gone on throughout history.
This also doesn't explain why a majority on this board are older and they are the ones whining about why the program isn't fixed now. The younger folks are the ones who see this all as normal.
Life is much easier if fans fulfill their job of cheering for the team and quit wasting their time tweeting and posting negativity on social media. We either trust Moos to get the right men or women coaching teams or we don't. We either trust the coaches hired to do their jobs or we don't.
From there, as fans, you can enjoy watching your teams play and cheer when they play well. The alternative is this whining crap that I read everywhere today. It is tiring, childish and unproductive.
I grew up during the 90's dynasty and I'm thrilled that I did. But it doesn't make me so sour now that the team isn't at that level. I am hopeful that the right leaders are in place now to compete at high levels again, but I don't hold out unrealistic expectations that all is well in the world without some real hard work and time.
From there, as fans, you can enjoy watching your teams play and cheer when they play well. The alternative is this whining crap that I read everywhere today. It is tiring, childish and unproductive.
I grew up during the 90's dynasty and I'm thrilled that I did. But it doesn't make me so sour now that the team isn't at that level. I am hopeful that the right leaders are in place now to compete at high levels again, but I don't hold out unrealistic expectations that all is well in the world without some real hard work and time.
it's quite fascinating how we are suddenly having these deep philosophical discussions surrounding the ill effects of social media, instant gratification, the need for patience and having a long term approach, etc, etc
the husker fan base must have collectively gotten "woke" somewhere in the midst of the 0-6 start of the 2018 season because there was little, if any of these deep thesis provoking thoughts voiced when Frost was hired and they rapidly dissipated after the completion of the 2018 season as the 2019 season drew near only for another reawakening to occur as this season has progressed
One wonders if the fan base were to have been so evolved and socially aware in 2015-2017 that Mike Riley would have been given more time as judging from the accumulation of apologetic posts after each time this team currently takes the field - 2-2 1/2 seasons isn't near enough time for a staff to be fairly evaluated while at NU.
It's comforting to know that even had we hired someone other than Frost and they had brought in a staff with vey little power 5 coaching experience that the fanbase is sufficiently "woke" that the same call for patience, etc, etc would be occurring.
the husker fan base must have collectively gotten "woke" somewhere in the midst of the 0-6 start of the 2018 season because there was little, if any of these deep thesis provoking thoughts voiced when Frost was hired and they rapidly dissipated after the completion of the 2018 season as the 2019 season drew near only for another reawakening to occur as this season has progressed
One wonders if the fan base were to have been so evolved and socially aware in 2015-2017 that Mike Riley would have been given more time as judging from the accumulation of apologetic posts after each time this team currently takes the field - 2-2 1/2 seasons isn't near enough time for a staff to be fairly evaluated while at NU.
It's comforting to know that even had we hired someone other than Frost and they had brought in a staff with vey little power 5 coaching experience that the fanbase is sufficiently "woke" that the same call for patience, etc, etc would be occurring.
Hindsight is always 20/20. These boards happen to go back to spring 2015. Interesting reading some of the posts from that time leading up to the start of the season and then those that happened after the first few games.
There is a continual "cupboard is bare, give the staff time" vs. "we have the talent and just need to coach it up"! Almost EXACTLY, almost word-for-word what is being said now. Has to get his guys, the S&C program is going to work wonders, Riley is working that magic recruiting outside the 500 mile radius, at least Riley makes good half time adjustments (ok, no one has said that about this staff
).This will be never-ending between those that want a quick fix and those that argue for patience. You are 100% right though that Frost is going to be given a much large amount of leeway whether he deserves it or not.
Social media just gives dumbos a place to vent. Some are so radical that they could use a therapist. Some just get frustrated at the immediate result but know the big picture is there.
There are a few posters on the 247 Nebraska board that have gone off the deep end they are actling like the world is ending any second and life is over. Those people are mentally ill.
Fan is just short for fanatics. Smart coaches and smart AD's don't let fans control programs from the outside. If Saban cared what others think of his handeling of the media they would have changed his style years ago. The Patriots head coach couldn't care less what others say or think.
Frost knows what is taking place within the program better than any single fan on a message board knows or any media person (including any former players in the media).
You should never let the mob control things like TN allowed to happen during their last coaching search.
It’s fine for me to criticize the program, but God help the sportswriter that publishes criticism and inconvenient truths.
Really though - I p*ss and moan as much as anyone; but I know that Frost needs and will be given a long runway. If this doesn’t work out, nothing will. I’m going to continue to lament the program’s shortcomings and embarrassing performances, while simultaneously hoping that Frost simply needs more time.
Really though - I p*ss and moan as much as anyone; but I know that Frost needs and will be given a long runway. If this doesn’t work out, nothing will. I’m going to continue to lament the program’s shortcomings and embarrassing performances, while simultaneously hoping that Frost simply needs more time.
Nebraska would go on to lose to the Minnesota Golden Gophers, Michigan State Spartans and Iowa Hawkeyes to finish the regular season 8–4.
his last year as head coach at Nebraska...
Yup, although I do recall a bit of this going on during Riley. The pyschobabble and speculation as to why we suck has been going on for a long while. Frost, although catching a little heat on social media this year, is going to be given a pass more than just about anybody else because of who he is. That's not to say some of the discussion as to the "why" isn't accurate, but people are much more prepared to accept it now.
sometimes they even open their traps to the main stream media
"we will contend for the division in 2019"
"we are better at every position"
I don't live in Nebraska and haven't for many years. So, someone tell me what was wrong or incorrect about his article. I thought it was well stated, presented the facts and some anecdotal information to reinforce this thoughts. What was wrong?
Yeah we keep having to have these arguments blaming this or that or that the seniors aren't trying, etc. Meanwhile the simplest explanation for most of the problems we've had is that for whatever reason the coaching hasn't been up to par. People don't want to admit to coaching being an issue so we keep getting these convoluted arguments blaming everything else under the sun.Hindsight is always 20/20. These boards happen to go back to spring 2015. Interesting reading some of the posts from that time leading up to the start of the season and then those that happened after the first few games.
There is a continual "cupboard is bare, give the staff time" vs. "we have the talent and just need to coach it up"! Almost EXACTLY, almost word-for-word what is being said now. Has to get his guys, the S&C program is going to work wonders, Riley is working that magic recruiting outside the 500 mile radius, at least Riley makes good half time adjustments (ok, no one has said that about this staff
This will be never-ending between those that want a quick fix and those that argue for patience. You are 100% right though that Frost is going to be given a much large amount of leeway whether he deserves it or not.
Not wrong, but kinda pointless. Anyone that has payed attention the last 20ish years already knew it all anyways. Frost knows it. It's about today and the future that matters.
I cheer for the team and always will no matter how bad it gets. I will always go to games too, both home and away. I don't feel my expectations are unreasonable. However, after watching a fair amount of football at all levels for the last 50 years or so what I have seen from the Cornhuskers the last decade is disappointing, frustrating, and just plain strange. I don't require the team I love to win national championships or even conference titles. But I wish like hell my team could get off the field on third down. I wish my team could avoid committing a penalty at the worst possible time. I wish my team didn't continually seem to take a quarter off every game. I wish my team could go through a game without a special teams gaff. i wish my team had a good turnover margin. I wish my team was not habitually in the bottom third of many NCAA statistics. And most of all, I wish my team executed the normal functions of the football game fairly routinely that even high school teams seem to be able to handle (like for instance, blocking for the punt returner). I don't consider my occasional comments about this stuff whining or bitching unfairly, I think basic football skills should be expected in a program like ours.
Honestly, I don’t think this would have been written is Frost came in with a different attitude. Let’s face it - he was cocky and had swagger (deservedly so). And I and most everyone loved it. When he commented how several of his past teammates were out of shape, told the B1G they would have to adapt to his system, that teams better get Nebraska while they can, and that he was bringing back the toughness of the TO years, I was pumped. The second half of last season, you could start to see the possibilities. Then came the off-season, the talk accelerated, and everyone bought in. You can have swagger and be cocky if you can keep performing.
Therein lies the problem. If you are cocky and don't have anything to back it up, you become a chump. The team he bragged about regressed. The boasting of S&C looks like a joke. Now, over halfway through the season his players are now saying they are serious about not making mistakes. He looks as lost as his team on the field.
He built up the hype we were buying into and is going to have to deal with the fallout that it brings as he continues to learn on the job. Hopefully he figures it out. If not, the next couple years may not be very kind to him.
Therein lies the problem. If you are cocky and don't have anything to back it up, you become a chump. The team he bragged about regressed. The boasting of S&C looks like a joke. Now, over halfway through the season his players are now saying they are serious about not making mistakes. He looks as lost as his team on the field.
He built up the hype we were buying into and is going to have to deal with the fallout that it brings as he continues to learn on the job. Hopefully he figures it out. If not, the next couple years may not be very kind to him.
Wow, you really don't get the point. "It's about today and the future" has been going on for 20 years.
To top it off, when the arguments with other fan bases start up it is always about the past since that is really all we have.
Frost is confident and he will be right in the end about the offense and Big Ten. Teams are already trying to adjust to OSU and failing at it.
Who care if it's been 20 years. Get over it and stop living in the failures of loser coaches. Frost is a winner.
Seriously, how old are you?
Who cares? That was his point, the entire state does, has for years and now they are getting accustomed to not winning the last 20 years.
They are getting accustomed to it? Now Dirk speaks for the entire fan base?? I don't think so.
I make a living in a very competitive industry where there are big dollars at stake with every deal won or loss. You will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, succeed if you dwell in past failures. You LEARN from the failures but you DO NOT dwell in it. You have to wash yourself free of it and move on.
Frost is a proven winner, a big time competitor. If you want to dwell over the years since Solich then drive ownself into depression or mental meltdowns like a handful of dumbos are doing in every thread at 247.
Frost has fixed the QB room. He is well on the way to fixing the RB room. Is recruiting different body types and athletes on the OL, and is pushing hard to overhaul the WR room for next season. On the LOS he is trying to recruit more size. They are trying to overhaul the linebacker room.
But hey, feel free to talk about Solich years, Callahan years, or Bo years. It's stupid too and a waste of time. The Riley years are the only thing impacting the current Frost teams. The guys Bo had, besides a few, are all gone.
Frost may be a winner but he has to prove that here and so far that is not what has been happening. He himself said things were going to be much different this year. Expectations were mostly built on what he said was happening. Do people really think this is a success? Seriously how long do we have to be patient? Frost himself told us by year two things would be very different. Sorry but that is just plain not what is happening !
I know Dirk has never been popular here, but just curious what he should do to earn his paycheck. Maybe write a positive column about the women’s volleyball team or men’s bowling? The alternative is to write a column each week about the latest dumpster fire in Memorial Stadium.
Dirk doesn’t need to say the Golden Child will get this fixed because we all know he doesn’t have any choice. We won’t let him take another job unless he does.
Dirk doesn’t need to say the Golden Child will get this fixed because we all know he doesn’t have any choice. We won’t let him take another job unless he does.
I never liked Dirk. Slow, can’t jump. He just could shoot at a time when no other 7 footers defended outside the lane.
he’s overrated and sounds like he has a mouth full of peanut butter as he tries to speak rudimentary English.
I don’t care what he thinks of Nebraska.
he’s overrated and sounds like he has a mouth full of peanut butter as he tries to speak rudimentary English.
I don’t care what he thinks of Nebraska.
Don’t care for Dirk, he will always be the “get off my lawn” dude but boy he nailed it with this piece. Props to him to have the cojones to write this... no other Nebraska writer would be so brutally honest.