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<blockquote data-quote="Samuel S" data-source="post: 129380596" data-attributes="member: 1754664">Well, Orgeron at USC showed that despite the chances being lower that a midseason replacement can help that doesn't mean it never will. I don't have any data but I can't think of another example in recent times&nbsp; where a team looked better and won more following a mid-season firing. &nbsp;&nbsp; Of course, the Kiffin firing was not entirely based on poor coaching. A lot of USC people despised Kiffin (joining an already sizeable crowd).&nbsp; There was a noticeable lack of complaining when Kiffin was fired. I don't think that&nbsp; many WVU fans dislike Dana; a lot may have little or no confidence in his head coaching ability but not personal dislike.&nbsp; I don't think you have to look any further than the message boards to see that a considerable portion of the fan base still retains confidence in him and would be angered if he was fired during the season. I even think there would be a few who would be angry if he is fired after another subpar season.As for Luck's unwisely creating expectations, what Luck stated was:&quot;I didn't believe we had an opportunity to win a national championship with the direction of the program [under Stewart],&quot; Luck said. &quot;At the end of the day, results matter. And we weren't getting the results.&quot;I want our Mountaineer program and expect us to compete at the highest levels.&quot;I read that to mean he was claiming we could consistently&nbsp; compete for (not win) national championships with the right coach because that's what it means to be at the highest level. I don't think we are even at a higher level after 5 years let alone the highest. I agree that 5 years&nbsp; without improvement is sufficient to determine the prospect for future improvement is unpromising (yes, results do matter). I don't, however, think that anyone who thinks it is not long enough is necessarily either a stupid or bad person as many here seem to think anyone who disagrees with them must be.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Samuel S, post: 129380596, member: 1754664"] Well, Orgeron at USC showed that despite the chances being lower that a midseason replacement can help that doesn't mean it never will. I don't have any data but I can't think of another example in recent times where a team looked better and won more following a mid-season firing. Of course, the Kiffin firing was not entirely based on poor coaching. A lot of USC people despised Kiffin (joining an already sizeable crowd). There was a noticeable lack of complaining when Kiffin was fired. I don't think that many WVU fans dislike Dana; a lot may have little or no confidence in his head coaching ability but not personal dislike. I don't think you have to look any further than the message boards to see that a considerable portion of the fan base still retains confidence in him and would be angered if he was fired during the season. I even think there would be a few who would be angry if he is fired after another subpar season. As for Luck's unwisely creating expectations, what Luck stated was: "I didn't believe we had an opportunity to win a national championship with the direction of the program [under Stewart]," Luck said. "At the end of the day, results matter. And we weren't getting the results. "I want our Mountaineer program and [U]expect[/U] us to compete at the highest levels." I read that to mean he was claiming we could consistently [U]compete[/U] for (not win) national championships with the right coach because that's what it means to be at the highest level. I don't think we are even at a higher level after 5 years let alone the highest. I agree that 5 years without improvement is sufficient to determine the prospect for future improvement is unpromising (yes, results do matter). I don't, however, think that anyone who thinks it is not long enough is necessarily either a stupid or bad person as many here seem to think anyone who disagrees with them must be. [/QUOTE]

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