Dannis Jackson

[Clarence Boddicker]

In Oxford, the community supports the party atmosphere...even encourages it...right down to the local law enforcement. No such luck in Starkville. They will take your *** downtown for looking at them wrong. Can't be having none them crazy shenanigans in StarkVegas!

I do think the locals have a lot to do with it. Good news is, the old guard is dying out.

 

[Clarence Boddicker]

I just finished an 11 year stint at State. (Undergrad, Master’s, PhD). I have witnessed the massive changes in our nightlife scene. But unfortunately, it is still underwhelming compared to other SEC towns, and we still have too many students who’d rather sit around a fire pit in the Highlands than go out to the bars. The good news is that we have not plateaued. Each and every year gets better and new places are opening and thriving. The next thing I would like to see is a bar with non-country music open near the District that was 18+. That’s the missing piece to get younger people in the habit of going out and creating a bar scene. The old, stick
-in-the-mud aldermen are dying off and things are changing. We’ll get there one day.

Nothing wrong with folks around the fire.

But seriously, to increase the bar scene, you need more kids with money. Better start recruiting the big city suburbs like Atlanta, Houston and Dallas. Me personally, I'd like to see a huge increase in the student recruitment of the Houston area.

 

[Clarence Boddicker]

It's still like that. UM has soooo many out of state kids attending. I know my eldest son dated 3-4 diff girls at UM...from Chicago, Connecticut, Califronia and Texas. Most of those kids never go home on weekends and many stay during the summer. Two of the girls my son dated actually traveled all over the world during their summers and then returned to Oxford each fall. I'm telling you, it creates a different dynamic. And it makes for a way different party atmosphere on weekends.

Out of state kids with money. I read somewhere that the average annual income of the out-of-state freshman class at Alabama was like $400,000/year. Many of them from the New Jersey area. I think Clemson is recruiting the same area.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Because they have an average looking qb, no offensive line, no running game, and no depth. How are they gonna get the ball to these wrs now?

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

please tell me why it is unbelievable that a WR would want to go to OM?

Very simple, in the recent past they have had two WRs drafted in the first round and may have two more drafted in the first round this year. We haven't had a WR drafted probably since Eric Moulds. And for the idiots who post, "Ole Miss is not preparing their WRs for the NFL," slowly read this, THEY ARE FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICKS. They went from being 4 or 5 stars to first rounders, that is what they have worked for their entire football life.

Where did our best WR since Eric Moulds get drafted? Here's the answer, he didn't.

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

So you agree with me? Not sure why you responded that the answer was simple and then confirmed my point.

 

[MaroonOldCrow]

Out of state kids with money. I read somewhere that the average annual income of the out-of-state freshman class at Alabama was like $400,000/year. Many of them from the New Jersey area. I think Clemson is recruiting the same area.

I see a lot of this at USCe as well. Lots of kids from Philly and Pittsburgh, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and NOVA/DC.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

So you agree with me? Not sure why you responded that the answer was simple and then confirmed my point.

Sorry clicked on the wrong post. I think you and I are on the same track.

 

[BossDawg78]

In Oxford, the community supports the party atmosphere...even encourages it...right down to the local law enforcement. No such luck in Starkville. They will take your *** downtown for looking at them wrong. Can't be having none them crazy shenanigans in StarkVegas!

It can also be detrimental. That "party atmosphere" and those students drooling over you just because you're a good athlete can be a HUGE distraction to anybody
....especially a student athlete who is pretty much codependent on being constantly reassured they are the big man on campus. I have thought for a while now that UM's inability to maintain success despite buying these blue-chips is partly because of their obsession with "winning the party".

Let 'em keep it.

 

[Allday.sixpack]

“and she just stared at him with her arms crossed. She acted like she was scared I was going to fly off the handle”

That’s a great story

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Not me....my son best not ever speak that nonsense

 

[maroonmania]

Norwood was the most successful. Had over 2,000 career rushing yards and was over 600 yards in 2 different seasons with a longer career. Unfortunately, Ballard only had one full healthy season with the Colts and didn't even reach 900 yards for his career. Both had injuries that finished them but that seems to be the story with most RBs in the NFL these days.

 

[JML105]

...
But seriously, to increase the bar scene, you need more kids with money. Better start recruiting the big city suburbs like Atlanta, Houston and Dallas.

I see what y'all are saying, but this is a slippery slope. What makes us better than the Landsharks, is that we are a mostly homegrown "People's University" and don't identify as a "Party School". The professional world takes a degree from MSU more seriously than from UoM (especially in Engineering). I believe that medical professionals even look more dignified to have their undergrad from State, and then go to UMMC.

I love that Starkville has evolved from what it was back when I was in school (Flo's, Cheer's, and Rick's was the bar scene; and Harvey's, Richey's and Cappy's was the extent of our "high end" culinary exposure), but the pace of which we grow and add bars needs to be controlled with a bigger picture and goal in mind. I like being one of the best kept secrets in the SEC. I like when people who have never been to Starkville come to town and are pleasantly surprised. As opposed to Oxford, where all you hear about is how great it is, only to be underwhelmed after spending any significant time there. Especially once you leave the square.

Let the Landsharks be who they are (whatever that really is), and we will continue to be the actual educational and research leader in the state who also happens to be better in team sports. We have always identified and been known as the blue collar cow college, and I'm okay with that. Its that identity that "prepares students to be good people, be positive role models in their communities, and to help those in need", as Dr. Keenum said during the Fall Invocation.

 

[Clarence Boddicker]

Very simple, in the recent past they have had two WRs drafted in the first round and may have two more drafted in the first round this year. We haven't had a WR drafted probably since Eric Moulds. And for the idiots who post, "Ole Miss is not preparing their WRs for the NFL," slowly read this, THEY ARE FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICKS. They went from being 4 or 5 stars to first rounders, that is what they have worked for their entire football life.

Where did our best WR since Eric Moulds get drafted? Here's the answer, he didn't.

I don't think you get it.

Those guys would be first round draft picks anywhere. Nothing Ole Miss did helped that. The reason Bear didn't get drafted is because he ran a 4.9. The only reason that he was in position to get drafted is because of what he did at MSU.

So the reality is the direct opposite of the perception. Coaches should really nail his home on recruiting visits.

 

[BiscuitEater]

AJ Brown is an example of What you can buy for ~$136K

FIFY

 

[maroonmania]

This is going to make some folks mad, but it is what it is. I'm just sharing what I've been told. I'm a lifelong MSU fan. My kids all attended MSU. Having said that, I've got family who attended both MSU and Ole Miss (as athletes). I have a son who talked to both MSU and Ole Miss as an athlete (didn't play for either however). Here's what they've all told me....if a kid isn't raised a tried-and-true fan of either school, "most" young men will give Ole Miss equal consideration over MSU regardless of which school is competitive at any given point. Why? When they visited, they simply had the better party at Ole Miss. And as hard as it is for us to accept, many of these young men will unfortunately make a decision based on immaturity....party atmosphere, women, etc.... They all said that Ole Miss treated them like rock stars and that goes a long way with these kids. If a kid is a really good athlete, as some have said on this board, the NFL will find them. Many of the more talented kids believe that as well so they're looking for the better party whenever they're not on the field competing. Often they think that's at Ole Miss. My son (who's a diehard MSU fan) said it best......he said MSU was like 13th grade and he loved his time there. However when he transferred to Ole Miss to finish his pre-requisites, he said Ole Miss was on a whole other level when it came to a good time. Good or bad, an athlete who has no allegiance to either school growing up, will unfortunately place a lot of consideration on that one facet of college life. They're being recruited as 18 year old kids. They don't all think with the same level of discernment that we do.

Well given WR is the only position they really outrecruit us, I guess that position must have all the big time partiers on a football team.

 

[diggidydog]

Well, bottom line is if a recruit buys into what OM is selling then MSU probably isn’t the place for him. MSU and OM are totally different cultures just like the people supporting them and I think the athletes that are interested in playing for them.

 

[ezsoil]

None of it would have happened without the LOI/NCAA process. Give it up.

Sad thing is they still won 6 and 5 games respectively.....maybe next year it will hit them and they will have a two win season....

 

[Clarence Boddicker]

Sad thing is they still won 6 and 5 games respectively.....maybe next year it will hit them and they will have a two win season....

Duh? The real effect from sanctions don't effect you immediately. The bowl ban does, but the effect in recruiting is felt years down the road.

How do you not already understand this? Why do I have to explain it?

 

[Len2003]

It depends on what the kids want. They might be more interested in trying out for the NFL than playing in meaningful games and getting to bowls. If they think OM is a better place for that, it makes sense. You can't project what you would value in a school onto someone else. Maybe he just likes the coaches better, or his friends are going there. There's many reasons a kid might pick OM or any other school over State.