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Solid game plan and even better execution, especially in the 2nd half. The Fenwick defense made plays the Flyers havent seen a lot of this year. Still a good/great year for ESL with 2nd place, but no doubt disappointment in the ESL locker room afterwards.
 

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Honestly those started about an hour after Oswego beat Lockport. I've been "debating" with friends and neighbors ever since and I've been the one arguing FOR the private schools. It feels dirty, but it is what is.
Sometimes those Oswego kids help privates win championships and then come back their senior year and try to help their town win one only to lose in the first round to another 8a private.

While I’m going for a Catholic sweep of 4-8a I would be happy for my old neighbors. Plus if I remember correctly the first summer in our house there I heard their band playing the ND victory march and I became an instant fan.
 
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it's quite possible we lived in the same neighborhood (or on opposite sides of the HS). Oswego's fight song IS the ND victory march.

I'm trying to recall when they lost in the first round to a Private school.
 

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it's quite possible we lived in the same neighborhood (or on opposite sides of the HS). Oswego's fight song IS the ND victory march.

I'm trying to recall when they lost in the first round to a Private school.
Yeah I know that’s why I became a fan I ran inside and told my wife that I’d MAYBE be open to not sending them to Naz. We lived in Southbury across from Foxbend

Oswego didn’t but Oswego East did to Loyola. Oswego is 1 town 2 team kinda town though they probably need a 3rd now….property taxes…oof!
 
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Yeah I know that’s why I became a fan I ran inside and told my wife that I’d MAYBE be open to not sending them to Naz. We lived in Southbury across from Foxbend

Oswego didn’t but Oswego East did to Loyola. Oswego is 1 town 2 team kinda town though they probably need a 3rd now….property taxes…oof!
Property taxes are no joke. I'm in SB near Traughber. I'd argue Oswego is a 1 team town :).
 

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Property taxes are no joke. I'm in SB near Traughber. I'd argue Oswego is a 1 team town :).

I miss the house it was ours we built it but I don’t miss the taxes. It’s crazy that I pay less now in Naperville than I did there. I also was mad they outlawed fishing in the ponds…there were some decent sized bass and bluegill in those ponds.

I agree screw OE one town one team!….but mine is for the obvious personal reason of the aforementioned senior transfer.
 

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I miss the house it was ours we built it but I don’t miss the taxes. It’s crazy that I pay less now in Naperville than I did there. I also was mad they outlawed fishing in the ponds…there were some decent sized bass and bluegill in those ponds.

I agree screw OE one town one team!….but mine is for the obvious personal reason of the aforementioned senior transfer.
That fishing thing was just a suggestion ;)

Did your son play at OE or Oswego? I'm confused. SB feeds into Oswego.
 

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That fishing thing was just a suggestion ;)

Did you son play at OE or Oswego? I'm confused. SB feeds into Oswego.
My son is turning 3 next month and would have gone to Oswego.

There was a Naz running back that won a state championship with Naz and then transferred his senior year back home to Oswego East.

I was bringing that up to show that yes publics lose kids to privates but it also goes the other way and publics also lose kids to other publics. Just giving you more talking points for the neighbors tonight.
 
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My son is turning 3 next month and would have gone to Oswego.

There was a Naz running back that won a state championship with Naz and then transferred his senior year back home to Oswego East.

I was bringing that up to show that yes publics lose kids to privates but it also goes the other way and publics also lose kids to other publics. Just giving you more talking points for the neighbors tonight.
Isn't Oswego to LGP about 35 miles. Depending on where Naz is situated in LGP and where in Oswego the kid lives, isn't it fair to assume that over half of Oswego is beyond the 30 mile radius to LGP? If so, and most Oswego residences are beyond the 30 mile radius, these kids would need to be legacies to be athletically eligible, correct? Or they live in the tiny corner of Oswego that may be 29.5-30 miles away?

I am a private school guy. Just always thought the Oswego/Plainfield/Yorkville to Naz connection was weird. So much so that that senior transfer back to a mid-tier OE program made sense to me. I think Plainfield East got a similar late career transfer back a few years later if I am not mistaken.
 
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We are all well aware of him. OE lost in the second round that year (to Loyola). He had his scholarship (Iowa) and came back home.

No worries though, Oswego sent them (Naz) three more guys a year or two later :).
 

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I miss the house it was ours we built it but I don’t miss the taxes. It’s crazy that I pay less now in Naperville than I did there. I also was mad they outlawed fishing in the ponds…there were some decent sized bass and bluegill in those ponds.

I agree screw OE one town one team!….but mine is for the obvious personal reason of the aforementioned senior transfer.
Go Noah Schultz!! Sorry I'm a Sox Fan!
 
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Isn't Oswego to LGP about 35 miles. Depending on where Naz is situated in LGP and where in Oswego the kid lives, isn't it fair to assume that over half of Oswego is beyond the 30 mile radius to LGP? If so, and most Oswego residences are beyond the 30 mile radius, these kids would need to be legacies to be athletically eligible, correct? Or they live in the tiny corner of Oswego that may be 29.5-30 miles away?

I am a private school guy. Just always thought the Oswego/Plainfield/Yorkville to Naz connection was weird. So much so that that senior transfer back to a mid-tier OE program made sense to me.
Ask Gdfther, he's the resident Naz geographical expert :).
 

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Ask Gdfther, he's the resident Naz geographical expert :).
After thinking it through, I think I am going to answer my own question here in that it is 34.5 miles on the highway. I am sure that, as the crow flies, it is probably 27-29 miles then. Still unusual to bypass Aurora Christan, Marmion, Joliet Catholic, St. Francis, Benet, Montini, etc all as closer options, but I assume just very narrowly within the 30 miles as the crow flies, even it it is a 70 mile round trip on actual roads. Which would make the transfer home after a few years of that slog of a commute make a lot of sense.

It's like waking up in Oswego and asking yourself, would I rather drive 55 minutes each day to LaGrange Park or New Lenox for my private school education? Those are my two best options because they are just barely under the 30 mile limit.
 

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After thinking it through, I think I am going to answer my own question here in that it is 34.5 miles on the highway. I am sure that, as the crow flies, it is probably 27-29 miles then. Still unusual to bypass Aurora Christan, Marmion, Joliet Catholic, St. Francis, Benet, Montini, etc all as closer options, but I assume just very narrowly within the 30 miles as the crow flies, even it it is a 70 mile round trip on actual roads. Which would make the transfer home after a few years of that slog of a commute make a lot of sense.

It's like waking up in Oswego and asking yourself, would I rather drive 55 minutes each day to LaGrange Park or New Lenox for my private school education? Those are my two best options because they are just barely under the 30 mile limit.
The kids that left Oswego summer of 2019 for Naz were close to a certain QB that just won the state title the previous year.
 

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Isn't Oswego to LGP about 35 miles. Depending on where Naz is situated in LGP and where in Oswego the kid lives, isn't it fair to assume that over half of Oswego is beyond the 30 mile radius to LGP? If so, and most Oswego residences are beyond the 30 mile radius, these kids would need to be legacies to be athletically eligible, correct? Or they live in the tiny corner of Oswego that may be 29.5-30 miles away?

I am a private school guy. Just always thought the Oswego/Plainfield/Yorkville to Naz connection was weird. So much so that that senior transfer back to a mid-tier OE program made sense to me. I think Plainfield East got a similar late career transfer back a few years later if I am not mistaken.
It’s 27.9 miles doorstep to doorstep from my old house to 1209.
 

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If you are in OEHS district it would be possible, would be tougher if in OHS district but still maybe possible.
 

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Is the 30 miles from the HS or from the residence? I know Lakewood Creek (montgomery) is further away than 2.1 miles.
 

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After thinking it through, I think I am going to answer my own question here in that it is 34.5 miles on the highway. I am sure that, as the crow flies, it is probably 27-29 miles then. Still unusual to bypass Aurora Christan, Marmion, Joliet Catholic, St. Francis, Benet, Montini, etc all as closer options, but I assume just very narrowly within the 30 miles as the crow flies, even it it is a 70 mile round trip on actual roads. Which would make the transfer home after a few years of that slog of a commute make a lot of sense.

It's like waking up in Oswego and asking yourself, would I rather drive 55 minutes each day to LaGrange Park or New Lenox for my private school education? Those are my two best options because they are just barely under the 30 mile limit.
When we lived in Oswego we only had our two girls and I assure you I woke up every morning thinking about the day I would get to see my girls as Roadrunners. And even now, Naperville has great schools and I still can’t wait to see all 3 of my kids become roadrunners.

I think that is a GIANT piece of the argument that gets missed. Some of those boys on Naz and MC and everywhere else are there because that’s their family for lack of a better term. Naz has 380ish boys in the building and only 11 get to play. A school like MC where it’s all boys is an even bigger example that It’s way more than football that makes families sacrifice the hours on the road and at work so their children can go to the schools they send them to.
 

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When we lived in Oswego we only had our two girls and I assure you I woke up every morning thinking about the day I would get to see my girls as Roadrunners. And even now, Naperville has great schools and I still can’t wait to see all 3 of my kids become roadrunners.

I think that is a GIANT piece of the argument that gets missed. Some of those boys on Naz and MC and everywhere else are there because that’s their family for lack of a better term. Naz has 380ish boys in the building and only 11 get to play. A school like MC where it’s all boys is an even bigger example that It’s way more than football that makes families sacrifice the hours on the road and at work so their children can go to the schools they send them to.
I can assure you, the boys I'm referencing made a "football" decision. And that is OK.
 

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Is the 30 miles from the HS or from the residence? I know Lakewood Creek (montgomery) is further away than 2.1 miles.
I think it’s residence to the school. Not sure the address but even the houses west of the elementary school are within 30 miles via Maple Ave.
 

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I can assure you, the boys I'm referencing made a "football" decision. And that is OK.
I agree. The ones I know from the 25-30 mile part of the radius all made football decisions.

And that is 100 percent totally ok. But tuccs, you are in the clear minority of those in the 25-30 mile away category if it is a holistic, family decision.

If you're making that sacrifice, it is usually for a targeted, specific program whether it's mathletes, football, cross country, or joining the Marist band. You're not passing up 5-7 perfectly fine "family communities" for a better fit. It is a better fit for most because they know the girls volleyball coach and want to be part of that specific program. And the school can become a nice family fit because of that. Just point out the tuccs case is the far and away exception. Ivory Kelly Martin would be far more the norm.
 

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I agree. The ones I know from the 25-30 mile part of the radius all made football decisions.

And that is 100 percent totally ok. But tuccs, you are in the clear minority of those in the 25-30 mile away category if it is a holistic, family decision.

If you're making that sacrifice, it is usually for a targeted, specific program whether it's mathletes, football, cross country, or joining the Marist band. You're not passing up 5-7 perfectly fine "family communities" for a better fit. It is a better fit for most because they know the girls volleyball coach and want to be part of that specific program. And the school can become a nice family fit because of that. Just point out the tuccs case is the far and away exception. Ivory Kelly Martin would be far more the norm.
I can agree there that when it comes to the 25-30 mile people I’m in the minority. I’m just trying to say that there are a lot of families out there that want to send their children to Carmel or Naz or Fenwick or Benet because that’s “home” or what they feel is best for their kid’s future or they are an obsessed dude in his 40s that never left his high school glory days and lives and dies on every play. Sports is such a small piece of the equation for the kids taking tests this Saturday.