Coach Wilson first year predictions

quincy101

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TU Pilot suggests 7-8 wins. I'll buy that. Because KDub can flat recruit. Look at his staff. With little time, he has a wonderful mix of older guys and young up & comers who all have big time coaching experience. Also with little time, a solid group of HS kids & transfers. With a couple more classes, we should be competing with Willie Fritz & Tulame for AACK! championships.

Which brings us to year three. It's true that TU's recent history with young, successful coaches is 3 years & out. Hank Kendall has suggested that Wilson just might end up retiring here. Some pooh-poohed this idea but I'm buying this, also. Why? Because he spent 9 years at OU. Six years at IU(they liked something about this man if it took them 6 yrs. to get rid of him) and most recently, six years at Oh10 St. And, he's 62 years old. If he and his family learn to love living in Tulsa (as most coaches' families do) why would a guy want to move again at that age after already coaching at a top level for over 20 years. What job could possibly lure him away?

Yes, I'm a little tipsey on the KDub kool-aid, but I don't think some people can visualize the success that this guy is going to bring to TU football.
 

dougheffking

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TU Pilot suggests 7-8 wins. I'll buy that. Because KDub can flat recruit. Look at his staff. With little time, he has a wonderful mix of older guys and young up & comers who all have big time coaching experience. Also with little time, a solid group of HS kids & transfers. With a couple more classes, we should be competing with Willie Fritz & Tulame for AACK! championships.

Which brings us to year three. It's true that TU's recent history with young, successful coaches is 3 years & out. Hank Kendall has suggested that Wilson just might end up retiring here. Some pooh-poohed this idea but I'm buying this, also. Why? Because he spent 9 years at OU. Six years at IU(they liked something about this man if it took them 6 yrs. to get rid of him) and most recently, six years at Oh10 St. And, he's 62 years old. If he and his family learn to love living in Tulsa (as most coaches' families do) why would a guy want to move again at that age after already coaching at a top level for over 20 years. What job could possibly lure him away?

Yes, I'm a little tipsey on the KDub kool-aid, but I don't think some people can visualize the success that this guy is going to bring to TU football.
Some TU fans just can't be optimistic. They're probably those who ask me to sit down and stop cheering on 3rd downs on defense.
 

astonmartin708_rivals

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Next season is a wildcard for me. We could win 3 games or we could win 10. I don’t think there’s a severe lack of talent like there is in basketball, but I could be wrong.
 

TUcandoit

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I don't see us doing less than last year unless somehow the league's other teams just skyrocket in talent. However, I don't see us doing much better either. I think we get to a bowl game 6-7 wins.
 

TU1NNJ

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Next season is a wildcard for me. We could win 3 games or we could win 10. I don’t think there’s a severe lack of talent like there is in basketball, but I could be wrong.
Normally I would agree with those numbers because of injuries and a few breaks here or there in what will be several tight games. My adjustment for this year is 5 to 11 wins. The reason - we won’t lose as many games because of game management and play calling. We will see much better red zone TD to FG ratio. Those improvements alone will give us 2 wins a year beyond where we have been.
 
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Gmoney4WW

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We won't win 3 games. 6-9

Six would be a slight failure, nine would be if everything goes incredibly well. My guess is 7.
 

astonmartin708_rivals

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Normally I would agree with those numbers because of injuries and a few breaks here or there in what will be several tight games. My adjustment for this year is 5 to 11 wins. The reason - we won’t lose as many games because of game management and play calling. We will see much better red zone TD to FG ratio. Those improvements alone will give us 2 wins a year beyond where we have been.
I‘m not counting my eggs before they hatch that the scheme we run on offense or defense will automatically advantageous.
 

dlsnid

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Cautiously optimistic I am hoping for 6. Looks like a tough schedule
 

TU_BLA

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I‘m not counting my eggs before they hatch that the scheme we run on offense or defense will automatically advantageous.
We were 5-7 this past year with a coach who insisted on playing a QB who was injured and essentially non-functional after the Ole Miss game...lo and behold we find out the backup QB can actually play and keep teams on their heels. I don't think we're going to have that this year. I think the # of big plays against us is going to be reduced as I believe we have upgraded our defense through the portal, especially in the back end. I also think we have increased the potential for big, explosive plays on offense. Just think, if Monty coaches to win the game vs Wyoming in week 1, he's probably still here because we would have gone to a bowl game.
 

Gmoney4WW

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We were 5-7 this past year with a coach who insisted on playing a QB who was injured and essentially non-functional after the Ole Miss game...lo and behold we find out the backup QB can actually play and keep teams on their heels. I don't think we're going to have that this year. I think the # of big plays against us is going to be reduced as I believe we have upgraded our defense through the portal, especially in the back end. I also think we have increased the potential for big, explosive plays on offense. Just think, if Monty coaches to win the game vs Wyoming in week 1, he's probably still here because we would have gone to a bowl game.
God no, on Monty getting to a bowl and still having the job. Let's play Auburn, and beat his a*ss.
 

HuffyCane

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We were 5-7 this past year with a coach who insisted on playing a QB who was injured and essentially non-functional after the Ole Miss game...lo and behold we find out the backup QB can actually play and keep teams on their heels. I don't think we're going to have that this year. I think the # of big plays against us is going to be reduced as I believe we have upgraded our defense through the portal, especially in the back end. I also think we have increased the potential for big, explosive plays on offense. Just think, if Monty coaches to win the game vs Wyoming in week 1, he's probably still here because we would have gone to a bowl game.
Disagree he would be here if he bowled.

Disagree Braxton was clearly a better option than Brin. He’s clearly physically gifted. But accuracy was questionable and we don’t know two things: 1) how much of the old play book he could run 2) how well he is suited to the new playbook. They will do a great job of calling to his strengths, but who, or if, we recruit out of the portal at QB might be a tell tale sign that Braxton could do some things really well but maybe not the whole package.

We shall see. But I wouldn’t expect him to put the whole team on his back. If so, could be a long year.
 

TU_BLA

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Disagree he would be here if he bowled.

Disagree Braxton was clearly a better option than Brin. He’s clearly physically gifted. But accuracy was questionable and we don’t know two things: 1) how much of the old play book he could run 2) how well he is suited to the new playbook. They will do a great job of calling to his strengths, but who, or if, we recruit out of the portal at QB might be a tell tale sign that Braxton could do some things really well but maybe not the whole package.

We shall see. But I wouldn’t expect him to put the whole team on his back. If so, could be a long year.
My point was more that an uninjured Braxton was a better option to play than a clearly beat up and injured Brin. I wouldn't have questioned Brin starting if he were healthy and it was clear he was never at full strength/mobility after getting injured at Ole Miss and instead of letting him get back to full strength, Monty kept running him out there to allow all the bumps, nicks, and bruises to compound sort of like that interest on the credit card you forgot to pay off.
 

Weatherdemon

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My point was more that an uninjured Braxton was a better option to play than a clearly beat up and injured Brin. I wouldn't have questioned Brin starting if he were healthy and it was clear he was never at full strength/mobility after getting injured at Ole Miss and instead of letting him get back to full strength, Monty kept running him out there to allow all the bumps, nicks, and bruises to compound sort of like that interest on the credit card you forgot to pay off.
It was beyond dumb to not give Brin at least 3 weeks off when there was a bye in there.

Without the ST mistakes, delay of games getting plays in, general game management mistakes, and a more diverse and open offense, I think 6-8 is a good expectation.
 

HuffyCane

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It was beyond dumb to not give Brin at least 3 weeks off when there was a bye in there.

Without the ST mistakes, delay of games getting plays in, general game management mistakes, and a more diverse and open offense, I think 6-8 is a good expectation.
It wasn’t dumb if there was $3 million in your pocket on the line, the kid wanted to play, the doctors cleared him and the team was trying to win. Lots of moving parts.
 

HuffyCane

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Don’t forget that we add conference newcomers North Texas, Rice, Charlotte and Florida Atlantic to the schedule. Plus we get another chance to cheat ECU.

The only holdovers are SMU, Tulane and Temple.
Exactly why I want to see where we will play.
 

HuffyCane

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6-7? That's pretty pessimistic.
Its hard to see more than 8 wins unless you want to start talking about beating Tulane and SMU on the road, which I dont think is realistic. NIU beat themselves at our place last year. And I think one of the two final games will be a fluke. Either UNT shows up ready to go or weirdness or weather happens out at ECU. That lands me at 6 wins. Pine Bluff, Temple, FAU, Rice, Charlotte, and probably UNT. NIU and ECU could go either way on the road.
 

quincy101

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I'm becoming mildly worried that we don't have a new DC hired, what with Spring Camp starting in a few weeks. On the other hand, I have confidence in Coach Wilson that whoever he gets will be a goodun.
 

HuffyCane

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I'm becoming mildly worried that we don't have a new DC hired, what with Spring Camp starting in a few weeks. On the other hand, I have confidence in Coach Wilson that whoever he gets will be a goodun.
Hard to believe that some programs start spring practice at the end of this week.