I think Cliff just introduced himself to the NBA. I think scouts are going to start paying a lot more attention to him.
Cliff - NBA?
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Needs one more year of development at least. He has NBA athleticism but doesn't have NBA skills yet.
I said earlier this year that Cliff could be off to the NBA this year or next depending on how he does improving his shooting and had several nimrods tell me I was clueless and Cliff would be at RU for all four years. 
Still needs to work on a few things but they are watching from a distance.
Still needs to work on a few things but they are watching from a distance.
Oh jeez. I thought this was over with the annual "Say goodbye to RHJ" for the past 3 years.
The only way Clif isn't at Rutgers next year is if he hates college and/or Pike (which doesn't seem likely).
He's not even being projected as a 2nd rounder - let alone a 1st rounder with a guaranteed contract.
The only way Clif isn't at Rutgers next year is if he hates college and/or Pike (which doesn't seem likely).
He's not even being projected as a 2nd rounder - let alone a 1st rounder with a guaranteed contract.
That, and to be able to defend better by getting stronger inside
Right now a opposing center gets position too often
Here the one thing I think Cliff needs... some way to go from mid-range jumper to a jam or a layup...
queued to a Chief jam.. Cliff has some speed...
Of course, he could go McHale too.. but that would take longer... though he seems to lean toward this kind of O.. when he is not absolutely jamming it down.. the 3:40 mark shows the up and under stuff.... Cliff has to get from mid-short range to ZERO range.. needs moves for that,, and up and under only works if you can hit ht mid-range stuff.. it might actually be EASIER for Cliff in the NBA with no zone D... well.. no "legal" zone D.
queued to a Chief jam.. Cliff has some speed...
Of course, he could go McHale too.. but that would take longer... though he seems to lean toward this kind of O.. when he is not absolutely jamming it down.. the 3:40 mark shows the up and under stuff.... Cliff has to get from mid-short range to ZERO range.. needs moves for that,, and up and under only works if you can hit ht mid-range stuff.. it might actually be EASIER for Cliff in the NBA with no zone D... well.. no "legal" zone D.
I'm projecting him as a mid-late 2nd rounder based on his athleticism and measurables for a big man as well as his progression this year. I've seen him on some NBA Dratft watch sites. He has shortcomings but is much more of an NBA prospect than RHJ was in his sophmore year.
That being said, it would definitely help his prospects to return next year and continue to develop his post moves, mid range and man-on post D.
His progression this season has been incredible thus far. I think another year would do him good to further develop his offensive game.
League told Kofi another year and will tell Cliff the same. Needs to get stronger and develop his outside game as well as a a drop step. Compare Dickinson to Cliff. Dickson could be the best three point guy on the team, he can put it on the floor, and has a wicked drop step with either hand.
Yeah Dickinson is way more polished offensively right now and has an NBA-ready body.
Cliff is a future lottery pick if he stays in college and keeps improving the way he has lately. Cliff with 15 more pounds and some consistent midrange and trey shooting can be a nice NBA player someday.
Cliff currently isn't on any Mock Draft boards. Hell Kofi is barely registering in the second round in most mocks. Cliff's options are G league or come back for another year. Another year of muscle and working on his shot away from the basket and he'll be a surefire pick after next year
Cliff is so athletically gifted and the best part he works hard at getting better. Another year of eating , lifting and perfecting his offensive reportoire will drive his value up. Still skinny so a few more pounds of muscle will not hurt this star in the making.
To be Mchale he would have to have PM tutor him in the use of the pivot foot
true. Koif is still only a second round projection on most boards despite his dominance in the post. This is not your father’s NBA.
Cliff is playing well and his progression over the course of the season has been great, but he's not yet ready for the NBA. He is only scratching the surface of his potential and he has a high ceiling. If he keeps growing like this next season, he can get drafted in 2023. But as an RU fan it would be nice if he was here for 4 years.
Cliff has several issues which will impact his draft stock, he does not appear to be draftable right now. It’s not clear that he is a center or power forward in the NBA. He looks shorter than his listed height, and if he is not really a center, his offensive game will not translate to the NBA. Regardless of his height, he plays small in man to man defense, gets way too low when he covers people in the post, which would get him destroyed in the NBA. He has lacks lower body strength, and while he has made offensive strides this season he is still very raw.
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yeah.. said something similar the end of last season.. for both he and Myles... leg strength.. be a wall the bangers cannot move while still standing tall-ish. It is an issue though... if he had tree-trunk legs and *** to be able to stand with the bangers.. would he be so quick off his feet? When Paul gets posted by a big man.. he kinda hangs in there.. but he is not a leaper and guys can mostly shoot over him if they don't insist on moving him.
Playing Edey will make for an interesting opportunity on Saturday. Maybe he should front Edey, entice the over-the-top pass.. and have some guard looking to jump on that pass as Edey gets it.
Cliff hasn't been stopped with his drop step yet I don't think since he's shown it
Bad take. Cliff needs to get low to get leverage to hold his ground against Kofi. If he stands more straight up he would get walked under the basket and dunked on. Wouldn't be able to put up a fight
First of all, he does this all the time, not against Kofi. And whether he can get away with it or not in college, this will not work in the Pros, everyone will shoot right over him.